Barrister Babu/ DT Note pg 5. - Page 3

Originally posted by: oye_nakhrewaali

This bit, not true

Originally named Yamuna, Joshi was born, raised and married in Kalyan where her family had previously been landlords before experiencing financial losses. As was the practice at that time and due to pressure from her mother, she was married at the age of nine to Gopalrao Joshi, a widower almost twenty years her senior.[6] After marriage, Yamuna's husband renamed her 'Anandi'.[7] Gopalrao Joshi worked as a postal clerk in Kalyan. Later, he was transferred to Alibag, and then, finally, to Kolkata (Calcutta). He was a progressive thinker, and, unusually for that time, supported education for women.[8]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anandi_Gopal_Joshi

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage#History

Wow 😲!

That is an incredible story overall...

But as for the children being married to adults thing, I was going off what I know from my own family, and what I've heard of about states like Rajasthan, Haryana where such practices are still common...

It does seem to vary between different regions, so maybe that was the norm in Bengal (as it apparently was in Maharashtra)...

Still don't understand how it could have worked without a concept of gaunah though!

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

My maternal great grand mother was 11 years old when she married a 30 year old so..,not true 😆

OMG that is a huge age gap 😲😲

Even we had child marriages in our family... but no such huge age gaps... (maybe that's a regional thing) my one grandma was 16 when she married my grand father who was 20, and my great aunt (her sister) was married at the age of 7 to a middle school aged boy, so they had to wait several years to do gaunah...

Odd question but did your great grandma go to stay with her husband and in laws then itself? With no gaunah or similar practice??

I have not seen some of the shows discussed in this topic.

We all know child marriage is wrong. But we also know it exists and is practiced in remote parts. I don't think there is anything wrong with depicting child marriage in the historical or current context as long as it is done sensitively.

Child marriage must not be romanticized or made cute. Even if some were successful and had kind spouses, they should be honest in depicting the challenges. The narration should make it very clear that it is never an acceptable practice.

Originally posted by: Anjalika01

OMG that is a huge age gap 😲😲

Even we had child marriages in our family... but no such huge age gaps... (maybe that's a regional thing) my one grandma was 16 when she married my grand father who was 20, and my great aunt (her sister) was married at the age of 7 to a middle school aged boy, so they had to wait several years to do gaunah...

Odd question but did your great grandma go to stay with her husband and in laws then itself? With no gaunah or similar practice??

No, it was a normal marriage.

And later on our Guru didnt even approve of it. My Naani tells me to this day that he literally scolded in front of everyone, "yeh kya shaadi hoti hai?"

Apparently, my Naani's Naani was very impressed with her son in law because he sang very well along with being wealthy, so she married her 11 year old daughter. 😆like Wtf..

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

No, it was a normal marriage.

And later on our Guru didnt even approve of it. My Naani tells me to this day that he literally scolded in front of everyone, "yeh kya shaadi hoti hai?"

Apparently, my Naani's Naani was very impressed with her son in law because he sang very well along with being wealthy, so she married her 11 year old daughter. 😆like Wtf..

Well that is pretty shocking !

Though what the Guru said does suggest it wasn't the most common thing ever tbf

This is drama show ? Web series ?

Where does it air ?

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche

This is drama show ? Web series ?

Where does it air ?

https://youtu.be/eCvPNqgd2pY

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Originally posted by: Harley_Quinn

Barrister Babu is a show currently running on Colors channel, where the lead couple is a result of child marriage.

The girl is 11 years old, while the boy is 22 years old. The show is set in pre-independence era when this was considered acceptable.

I first want to tell that I don't watch this show. But I've seen the promos while watching Bigg Boss.

The lead couple also came in Bigg Boss to promote their show.

So I don't have full idea about the relationship dynamics of this couple, except that the girl does consider the man as her husband and calls him "pati Babu".

Now you guys must remember the show Pehredaar Piya Ki.

It was also from the same production house, Shashi Sumeet Productions, and this show created a lot of outrage and controversy for showing child marriage between an adult woman and a young child.

There was so much outrage that the makers had to close the show after one month.

So what makes Barrister Babu acceptable to audience to not create any controversy and outrage, that it's running for almost an year?

While Pehredaar Piya Ki was forced to close down after a month?

PPK showed the marriage between an adult woman and a young boy, something which actually doesn't happen in reality. That still caused outrage.

But marriage between an adult man and a young girl still happens in some parts of India. It's a reality. So why this is considered acceptable?

Is it because they are showing it in pre-independence era, so it's okay because it's part of our history?

But they are still promoting child marriage in a way. Our ancestors were wrong, and we don't need to glorify it.

Maybe I'm completely wrong in my take because I haven't watched the show. I'm making my judgement just based on the promos.

So those who watched both Barrister Babu and PPK, could tell better why one show is acceptable while the other one is not.

I haven't watched the other show you are talking about but I have seen the controversies surrounding the show on some news channel just before it was shut. They did show some of the clippings though and a couple of those clippings seemed quite creepy and uncomfortable. No offense to anyone who was a fan of that show.

About what makes Barrister Babu different is that it is a show based in the 1920s and based on true events that used to occur during that era. It's about a London based Barrister who was forced to marry a little girl to save her from Sati as there was no other way out. It is about the journey of Husband-wife who share a relationship of a guardian and ward, and how he fights against the entire society to get her educated and make her a Barrister. It's about how their pure relationship progresses and strengthens slowly. Her calling her husband Pati Babu is nothing but a form of respect as there is no other way she can address him. Other than that the show has nothing that would make anyone uncomfortable with this Pure relationship. How can a BANNED practice be promoted by the show when there can be legal consequences? I would suggest watching the show before judging it (not meant as a taunt, just a suggestion which can be ignored).

First of all this show is not promoting a child marriage!! But to stop a child marriage and later to save a girl from a sati ritual, a London return barrister had to marry her. Up until now you can not find a single scene between both leads which is uncomfortable. FL is a child so she is performing like a child only(no ott drama) and ML is performing as her guardian, savior, teacher, friend.. etc. this show is about how they both get attached by a pure bond gradually. The main theme of the show is how the FL becomes the first woman barrister with the help of her husband and later how the barrister couple fights for the changes in the society by stopping all evil customs. We should not forget that this show is based in 1920s era .. child’s marriage with a lot older man was a common practice then... all I would like to say that whoever wants to understand the main message of the show should watch it first !! This is just my take on this show.. not directed to anyone.

Originally posted by: Harley_Quinn

Barrister Babu is a show currently running on Colors channel, where the lead couple is a result of child marriage.

The girl is 11 years old, while the boy is 22 years old. The show is set in pre-independence era when this was considered acceptable.

I first want to tell that I don't watch this show. But I've seen the promos while watching Bigg Boss.

The lead couple also came in Bigg Boss to promote their show.

So I don't have full idea about the relationship dynamics of this couple, except that the girl does consider the man as her husband and calls him "pati Babu".

Now you guys must remember the show Pehredaar Piya Ki.

It was also from the same production house, Shashi Sumeet Productions, and this show created a lot of outrage and controversy for showing child marriage between an adult woman and a young child.

There was so much outrage that the makers had to close the show after one month.

So what makes Barrister Babu acceptable to audience to not create any controversy and outrage, that it's running for almost an year?

While Pehredaar Piya Ki was forced to close down after a month?

PPK showed the marriage between an adult woman and a young boy, something which actually doesn't happen in reality. That still caused outrage.

But marriage between an adult man and a young girl still happens in some parts of India. It's a reality. So why this is considered acceptable?

Is it because they are showing it in pre-independence era, so it's okay because it's part of our history?

But they are still promoting child marriage in a way. Our ancestors were wrong, and we don't need to glorify it.

Maybe I'm completely wrong in my take because I haven't watched the show. I'm making my judgement just based on the promos.

So those who watched both Barrister Babu and PPK, could tell better why one show is acceptable while the other one is not.

@Bold - What makes you say that and in what way are they promoting child marriage? Just by the promos you cannot tell what they are showing in the show right? 😊

I have no idea about PPK because I never watched it. I am here just to comment on Barrister Babu. I don't think it even makes sense to compare these two shows.

So, when we watch a mythological drama, or a historical show, we see many traits of the Indian society which were wrong that time... do we question such shows then? 😆Absolutely not! Why are people making numerous remakes of historical events which not only depicts child marriage, but also brutality with women, violence, cruelty and what not?

You will find numerous series and films based on World War 1 & 2 where you will find stories that would wrench you heart. Why are they still making these shows/films when we know those things were wrong and now we do not want to follow that ? are they doing it to promote negativity and all those things that happened in the past? No!

That's because if a show is depicting events which took place in past does not mean they are trying to promote it.

Promoting something mean glorifying the same thing on television and showing the viewers that this thing is right.

But what did the show Basrrister Babu do?

• They showed that an 8 year old girl was being tricked into marrying a 90 year old man. Does this mean glorifying child marriage?
• They showed that when the 90 year old man died even before completing the rituals, that little 8 year old girl was forced to perform Sati. Is that glorifying Sati pratha?
• After being married to the lead at such a tender age, she had to face wrath of the family due to her bed wetting problem. Does that "glorify" child marriage? Does that in any way show child marriages are good? Doesn't it actually depict how wrong it was?
• There was a track where the lead out rightly rejected attending a child marriage which was taking place. He clearly mentioned that it is wrong and he himself had to do marry Bondita only to stop a bigger mishap. Is this glorifying child marriage?
• Was it okay if the lead had not stopped Sati pratha and let that kid die? He married her to save her life, does this mean child marriage is being glorified?

The lead of the show tried to STOP not just the child marriage but also the Sati Pratha. When no one was ready to take the girl's responsibility, then the Lead had to marry her just to give her a place in the society as he promised to give her a life which she deserved.Is this glorifying child marriage? Was it okay if he had just taken her home with himself without marrying her? What ugly names would people have given in that case ? Even in 2021 it is a big deal, let alone 1920.

The Lead of the show himself is young and he strongly despises injustice with women. Since day 1 he is only shown fighting for Women rights. He is a man who is going against the society to not only educate that girl but also make her self sufficient and an independent woman. (Not just Bondita, he has done so much for other girls as well and even untouchables, which proves he is not only fighting for Women right but for Human rights on the whole)

Why are we not pointing out to such amazing things which this show is depicting? That guy left western culture to come back to his country and bring a change in society. Why are we not appreciating that?

You have never seen the show then Please listen to some of Anirudh's monologues on women, and then tell me what you feel they are glorifying ? I have personally never seen any ML say such apt and supportive things for women rights, and Anirudh not just says these things, he follows it as well.

So Bondita being married to Anirudh is just a way of telling the story and it is just a part of the show. The show is not about Anirudh and Bondita's "Love" story in any way and you will understand that very well if you watch the show. The Indian audience are sensible enough to understand that the events are taking place in the past.

Also, about promoting things, what about the reality/fictional TV shows that are showing violence, abuse, ladai jhhagda, planning and plotting all day? Is that not called promoting wrong things ?

I think it is high time we should support such bold ITV shows like Barrister Babu which are trying to do something different at least 👍🏼