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Why did Dhruti name his son "Duryodhana"? Or How come people started calling him "Duryodhana"?
Do we know names of his 99 brothers, apart from Dushashan and Vikarna?
Originally posted by: deepikagupta9
No rukmani mentioned will never changed d universal truth Rukmini was mahalakshmi avtar which she is considered also .
Draupadi ko leke bahut stories hai koi ek nhi , even narada or garuda puran she is said wife of vayu
Anyway there is no point discussed.
We can agree 2 disagree.
What universal truth are we talking about here ?? I am sure neither lord Vishnu nor god laxmi came to you to tell this universal truth of rukhmini bring laxmi. And i assure you that they did not came to me either. And as you correctly pointed there are many stories in different puranas devi puran calls both krishna and krishnaa as form of maha kali link of which is posted in previous thread you can check. Garud purana talks about drapaudi being a part of many goddess and etc etc. So that is why we should stick to the primary source that is Mahabharata text for determining what is truth since that is farthest we can go in this regard and in text vyasa clearly calls krishna as Vishnu/Narayan and krishnaa as sri/laxmi so that is the only universal truth we have as of now. Rest everything is a story
There is a passionate debate going on and I will just put my two cents. Krishna is God. He guided Pandavs to establish a just rule & kingdom because they were on the side of Dharm & are basically sons of Gods. Draupadi is the cornerstone of this epic. From my limited knowledge, Sri is Narayan's consort every time she reincarnates. I have read various versions that say Draupadi has elements of various Godesses but as far as Krishna is concerned, Rukmini is believed to be Sri. Krishna is considered to be an ideal husband and obviously would be better than any mortal.
Originally posted by: HearMeRoar
Actually, this phrasing is puzzling. If I'm interpreting correctly, it should mean Panchali was born on earth out of intercourse (ratyartham). Debroy sir was circumspect and translated it as "out of love." Was Vyasa saying Panchali was born the normal way? Then, why not outright say it? Or was she an illegitimate offspring of Drupada's?
Panchali does mentions about her childhood right so i think yes she was born the normal way only. I was reading different stories of puranas remember the link you gave in one of the other threads?? There is a mention of a place whose people were called angi janmis. I forgot the name 😆. So panchali and drishtdyum can be member of that clan belonging to that particular place. About not mentioning it outright i guess its what we were discussing in the previous thread the theory of being uncomfortable the theory that probably radha and drapaudi are one and the same person.
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Why did Dhruti name his son "Duryodhana"? Or How come people started calling him "Duryodhana"?
Do we know names of his 99 brothers, apart from Dushashan and Vikarna?
I believe he was named Suyodhana. I remember someone saying he changed his name himself. Dur-- doesn't mean anything bad in his case. Unfortunately, people believe it does because yeah...
Same as with Panchali which DOESN'T mean woman with 5 husbands. The Panch-- prefix ended up suggesting that.
Originally posted by: Armu4eva
There is a passionate debate going on and I will just put my two cents. Krishna is God. He guided Pandavs to establish a just rule & kingdom because they were on the side of Dharm & are basically sons of Gods. Draupadi is the cornerstone of this epic. From my limited knowledge, Sri is Narayan's consort every time she reincarnates. I have read various versions that say Draupadi has elements of various Godesses but as far as Krishna is concerned, Rukmini is believed to be Sri. Krishna is considered to be an ideal husband and obviously would be better than any mortal.
I guess as i have already said we have to rely on text about such matters. This is the same text that talks about krishna being Vishnu incarnate and this is same text that mention drapaudi being Sri so why can't we believe that ???? There is no rule mentioned that they will have to get married to eachother only everytime they take avatar as god and goddess they have higher purpose to serve then just get married to eachother. Plus if you read text property both krishna and krishnaa echoes the same thought process to different people. I don't think we can get better proof their soulmates connection. And the way krishna always prioritize drapaudi over everyone else. Drapaudi in their vana parva conversation clearly highlights their relationship and accepts his right on her and he in turns swears on her swears on her. That s huge. He was ready to do everything for her. He felt her pain for 13 long years
Originally posted by: Poorabhforever
What universal truth are we talking about here ?? I am sure neither lord Vishnu nor god laxmi came to you to tell this universal truth of rukhmini bring laxmi. And i assure you that they did not came to me either. And as you correctly pointed there are many stories in different puranas devi puran calls both krishna and krishnaa as form of maha kali link of which is posted in previous thread you can check. Garud purana talks about drapaudi being a part of many goddess and etc etc. So that is why we should stick to the primary source that is Mahabharata text for determining what is truth since that is farthest we can go in this regard and in text vyasa clearly calls krishna as Vcishnu/Narayan and krishnaa as sri/laxmi so that is the only universal truth we have as of now. Rest everything is a story
Vedvyas also stated Draupadi as swargalakshmi , why 2 forget that.
Nora posted that quote.
Even rukmani one also.
Vedvyas ki ek baat ko sach mano gi aur dusri ko jhoot.
Originally posted by: HearMeRoar
I believe he was named Suyodhana. I remember someone saying he changed his name himself. Dur-- doesn't mean anything bad in his case. Unfortunately, people believe it does because yeah...
Same as with Panchali which DOESN'T mean woman with 5 husbands. The Panch-- prefix ended up suggesting that.
I thought "Duryodhana" is opposite word for "Suyodhana"
Like Sugandh - Durgandh
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