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Posted: 7 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: FleurBleue


Read an OP-ED piece of actress Lupita Nyong'o on her dealing with Weinstein's harassment.
She categorically mentions she didn't face any such situation where women were in the positions of powers. That's why we need more women in those positions.



I read that too. Such an insightful and nuanced read by Lupita. Her dealings with Weinstein explains why her career didnt shoot up as high as I thought it would after 12 Years A Slave.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#42
I think it was extremely foolish and wrong of Tisca Chopra to have assigned blame to victims of harassment. Harassment is never okay.

Having said that, I think we should teach our daughters (and sons) to look out for themselves and each other. It is not always clear what the line between self protection and self censorship is. Being smart and assertive are good empowering qualities. Being afraid to go where you want and wear what you want are not. My daughter is a little kid so it is hard for me to even imagine her as a sexual being but if she wanted to be an actress I think I would say some of the things Tisca said, not because I believe there is EVER justification for harassment or assault but because, although the world isn't perfect, my daughter isn't powerless to take steps to protect herself. I hope my daughter owns her power and doesn't inherently feel lesser or weaker because of her gender.


To me all the self preservation advice goes together and I want my daughter (and son) to be safe but still living her life as freely as possible. Hopefully she will lock her doors, stay out of isolated dark alleys and hotel rooms of men she doesn't want to be intimate with, have safe sex should she choose to (far far far in the future πŸ˜† ), not accept drinks from anyone she doesn't really really trust, not get randomly drunk, not use drugs, dress with a balance of self expression and cultural norms, ... wear her seatbelt, not drive too fast, wear sunscreen, moisturize her skin, exercise, eat vegetables and fruits, etc. πŸ˜†
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Posted: 7 years ago
#43
All I can say it's More disappointing as a woman to hear such words from your own gender than men,esp from a woman who has been through a similar experience. You would expect someone esp a celebrity like her be an spokesperson for woman who go through this everyday.It's always woman have suffered than men.just read a 15 year dying from tucked away in a hut because of her period and was seen as a filth for a project I am doing .she was just a child who died from lack of sanitation and society stupid morality.it makes me really disappointed when esp when I hear from women mouth .[B][/B]
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Posted: 7 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: anonymous39

Men are the aggressors 99% of the time so it's dishonest and disingenuous to keep saying "But what about female abusers!!!" when this kind of subject is being talked about. It doesn't help to make false equivalences when the problem is faced overwhelmingly by one gender and not both.

I don't think it's dishonest or disingenuous. In fact I can show you statistics for domestic abuse and stalking that are not nearly so skewed. But at any rate that wasn't my point. My point is that we need to stop seeing ourselves as natural victims before we can ever hope to be seen as equals. Most people have blind spots and biases, denying them doesn't help.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#45
Lol doesn't matter if a man and woman are in a hotel room setting or any other setting
Why would a man touch a woman without her consent ?
Why do I need to worry about my safety if he doesn't worry about his?
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Posted: 7 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Nova19

I think it was extremely foolish and wrong of Tisca Chopra to have assigned blame to victims of harassment. Harassment is never okay.


Having said that, I think we should teach our daughters (and sons) to look out for themselves and each other. It is not always clear what the line between self protection and self censorship is. Being smart and assertive are good empowering qualities. Being afraid to go where you want and wear what you want are not. My daughter is a little kid so it is hard for me to even imagine her as a sexual being but if she wanted to be an actress I think I would say some of the things Tisca said, not because I believe there is EVER justification for harassment or assault but because, although the world isn't perfect, my daughter isn't powerless to take steps to protect herself. I hope my daughter owns her power and doesn't inherently feel lesser or weaker because of her gender.


To me all the self preservation advice goes together and I want my daughter (and son) to be safe but still living her life as freely as possible. Hopefully she will lock her doors, stay out of isolated dark alleys and hotel rooms of men she doesn't want to be intimate with, have safe sex should she choose to (far far far in the futureπŸ˜†), not accept drinks from anyone she doesn't really really trust, not get randomly drunk, not use drugs, dress with a balance of self expression and cultural norms, ... wear her seatbelt, not drive too fast, wear sunscreen, moisturize her skin, exercise, eat vegetables and fruits, etc.πŸ˜†

this comment is not right ... girls should wear what they want without it being cultural norm ... women who wear cultural norm clothes also get assaulted ... a woman wearing salwar or burkha does not become safe... why are girls told this!!! there is nothing wrong in wearing what girls want to wear
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Posted: 7 years ago
#47
I knew this guy from work well to do big position in firm, he was seeing this girl for not too long she had a desire for BDSM and he went ahead to do it for her after wards she accused him of rape, all his clean reputation destroyed loss of face everywhere his good will gone they all sided with the girl because the girl is supposed to elicit a victim image by default
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Posted: 7 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: anonymous39

Men are the aggressors 99% of the time so it's dishonest and disingenuous to keep saying "But what about female abusers!!!" when this kind of subject is being talked about. It doesn't help to make false equivalences when the problem is faced overwhelmingly by one gender and not both.


While I agree female on male rape is impossible but fake rape accusations can completely ruin a career
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Posted: 7 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: cory

I knew this guy from work well to do big position in firm, he was seeing this girl for not too long she had a desire for BDSM and he went ahead to do it for her after wards she accused him of rape, all his clean reputation destroyed loss of face everywhere his good will gone they all sided with the girl because the girl is supposed to elicit a victim image by default

Gone Girl. πŸ₯±
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Posted: 7 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: Resident_Evil

Some women (not all) use sex to get to places and thats a fact. When things don't go their way they claim sexual assault. But these are the women who ruin it for other majority who undergo actual sexual assault and who are traumatized for life by these experiences.

did u just state a fact ?? U will be called a misogynist and what not πŸ˜†
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