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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Ishq-Dua





<font size="3" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">You know a main thing that I like about this show is the characters and the way they were written. There is basically no black and white character here. They all have grey shades to them. Even the problems that occurred in the story, it wasn't bc one main (villian) character was plotting things and creating problems, all things were happening due to wrong choices and destiny. Be it Ayna deciding to marry Imran in secret or Mohsin and Ayna ending up together.</font>

<font size="3" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I don't see any characters really wrong here if we look at things from each character's point of view.</font>
<font size="3" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Ayna deciding to marry Imran was something that she didn't see wrong at that time bc she thought he was the right person for her. The person her heart chose and she was sure that she was going to be happy with him. As we know when people are in love, they tend to only see the good side of things and hope for the better. Ayna probably didn't see that her mom was going to die bc of this one decision that she took and she didn't see how this one mistake was going to affect her life to this point as well as the life of the people around her and her relationships. She probably thought that in the end Imran's parents will have to accept her and if they didn't, her and Imran can still lead their life because it's the life that they chose. Had both Ayna and Imran expected the worse, I'm sure they wouldn't have taken the step of getting married secretly.</font>

<font size="3" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Imran: Someone who was born with a silver spoon. He is the only son in the family and he was obviously aware that everything his father owned was going to be his in the end. So he didn't ever imagine that there would come a day where he would be hungry and without food or a time where he would be roaming streets trying to find a job.</font>
<font size="3" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">This is why when he got put into such a situation, he started to panic.</font>
<font size="3" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">To make it worse he didn't see Ayna's problems. He thought that he was the only one suffering here,while Ayna was still living with her family and not having to go through what he was going through. Ayna was definitely not in a better situation than him, but Imran couldn't see that. She was having to lie to her family and having to pretend she's going to Uni while she's going to meet him in secret. I'm sure she was feeling very guilty and unhappy with herself that's why she kept telling her mother if she would always love her or forgive her. She was having to live in fear of what would happen when her family found out about her marriage. Another problem was her family preparing to get her married to Noman while she's actually married. I'm sure Ayna was probably unable to sleep thinking about all these problems, but Imran wasn't seeing all of this. He just saw that Ayna is still living with her family while he on the other hand left his parents and is struggling to survive.</font>

<font size="3" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">So no one really is at fault here bc each person only saw their conflict and this is just part of being human. We as humans usually see our conflicts/problems and become blind to the problems of the other person.</font>
<font size="3" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I do think though Imran really loved Ayna but his love wasn't enough to stand against his family and be able to endure all the hardships that were coming his way.</font>

<font size="3" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Sajal: What can I say about her. At first I kind of understood why she was behaving so rudely with Ayna. She had just lost her mother and Ayna was to be blamed. Putting myself in her place if this would have happened with me (God forbid) I don't think I would be able to look in my sister's face and I would probably be just as mean as Sajal or even worse. But then I felt that Sajal wasn't behaving this way just because of her mother's death. She was actually becoming selfish and she began to feel that Ayna was a burden on her and Faraz and she wanted to get rid of her.</font>
<font size="3" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">When she had a miscarriage the problem became worse because now she was starting to feel insecure and thinking that she might actually lose Faraz. The only solution she saw at that time was Maaz. She thought that if she took Maaz and brought him up as their child, Faraz might stop thinking about a second marriage to fulfill his wish of having a child of his own. So she doesn't hesitate in separating a mother (Ayna) from her son (Maaz). She didn't see what she was doing was wrong, she only saw it as a way of protecting/saving her marriage with Faraz.</font>

<font size="3" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Faraz: One of the most characters that I liked in the show and thought he was the most understanding and sane one. He actually stood by Ayna a lot and reprimanded his wife Sajal every time she was rude with her, but he was beginning to feel that Ayna is actually a burden especially when Sajal gets sick and he starts to think that his family should come first and if leaving the country is the only way that would benefit his family he was going to do that. He was also having a hard time keeping his aunt's promise. That's why he starts to think that getting her married to Mohsin would be the best solution. He wanted the best for him and his family, even if it meant that someone was going to get hurt by this decision.</font>

<font size="3" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Annie: In the beginning I always thought this girl has no self respect going after a guy that loves someone else. But then I started to see why she was behaving the way she was. She was a rich spoiled girl who always got what she wanted. Here for the first time maybe she was not getting what she wanted, that being Imran and his love. She probably also couldn't digest the fact that a normal girl like Ayna has won Imran. So she was going to do anything and everything to separate her from him. Like she told Imran before, everything is fair in love and war. She really believed that what she was doing wasn't wrong. She didn't see how Imran wasn't an expensive car that she finally got. She did get married to Imran, but she wasn't able to make a place in his heart and unfortunately when she found that out, it was already too late.</font>
<font size="3" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">But I actually feel bad for her and I think Imran is torturing her too much. She already got her punishment by getting married to him and not being able to win his heart. I think Imran is behaving this way with her and blaming her for everything that happened to stop his guilty conscience. He knows that he was also responsible for ruining Ayna's life, but I guess it makes him feel better to put most of the blame on Annie.</font>

<font size="3" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">That's it for now. Man I don't remember when was the last time I was this much into a show😆</font>



Absolutely loved your character pieces! I especially loved the Imran one. In so many of these dramas, characters like Imran and their love for the "poor girl" seem very shallow, but the writers fleshed out Imran very well. You could tell he loved Aina and yes he left her, but there was a giant scheme orchestrated for him to do so. That's why I'm not opposed to an ImNa ending--though MoNa is the OTP of OTPs-- because you could tell he always cared for her, and going by his last conversation with Aina, he always will.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Fobby - for the Sami part.. you nearly killed me 🤣 But Abby is definitely gonna kill you .. she is a die hard Sami fan.. Good Luck 😆
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Comments like Ishq-Dua's on how it's hard to remember a time when you were so into one particular drama make me so happy, because that's exactly how I felt when I first saw this drama.

I started watching this drama since episode 1 just for EmNa. i was confused that the characters of Imran, and especially Nadia, existed in what was clearly meant to be an EmNa drama, but just a few moments worth of watching the first episode made me trust the writers. They write engaging families; you'd honestly think Sajjal and Aina and Faraz and Mohsin were all truly cousins who grew up together. They wrote such a believable, realistic story (and dialog to go with it) around these characters, and the entire cast, not just the romantic leads, had such a chemistry that you really felt like you snuck into somebody's house and were watching actual struggles unfold. I could even say the same about Tabi and Raania; you'd think you were watching two real sisters.

Don't get me wrong--I think EmNa/MoNa are the largest part of the popularity of this show, but the drama was doing really well way before MoNa was a thing on the show. I think EmNa/MoNa are carrying the show right now, but the writers deserve their due credit for what a compelling story they wrote. The story has its flaws *cough*leap and continuity of development*cough* but for a Pakistani drama, this show set a new personal benchmark for me for what I want to look for in a drama. It's going to be hard to get back into watching new dramas after this one ends since everything was just so perfect for this show.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: -RisingAsh-

Fobby - for the Sami part.. you nearly killed me 🤣 But Abby is definitely gonna kill you .. she is a die hard Sami fan.. Good Luck 😆


Bring it 😎 I'm not a Sami Khan hater per se since I have nothing against him as a person, but as an actor he always chooses the same characters, almost never experiments with his style, and never stretches his range as an actor. I watched quite a few of his dramas, but I think the last one I ever watched was Do Qadam Door Thay, and after that, I thought never again. He's been the same character for over 10 years and I'm sick of it.
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Posted: 7 years ago
And I knoow.. FaNa thing is a joke.. nobody really wants that.. We actually want a character like Faraz to be with Aaina. Cuz she deserves only that kind of a man.. but we want Mohsin to turn like that.. in his own way cuz we all want MoNa to be the end-game .. like there is no other option for us to accept.


Mohsin will be the one.. Mohsin is giving me those vibes.. that yes.. he IS gonna be the cool/romantic/intense Mohsin once again.



And yes, I want some blunder by Mohsin to happen, due to which he has to apologize to Aaina.. but she reminds him how he has already done the same thing ages ago and stuff.. she should warn him about breaking ties with him the way he did in yesterday's epi if anything of this kind would happen again.. that would be a tight thing for Mohsin.. he will fear of losing her and family and blah.. blah can be added further on..



We all have so many plots and directions.. I bet we all can write different stories based on our assumptions only 😎
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Posted: 7 years ago
Fobby

You need to watch Bashar Momin and Piya Mann Bhaye if you want to see him in different roles. In PMB he was playing a grey character which suited him well and the show was amazing too. And Bashar Momin is something class apart. Everyone SHOULD watch it !!! UFFF so many feeels ! Sorry for that extraaa thing but yeah these two shows had a different Sami for sure according to me.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: -RisingAsh-





We all have so many plots and directions.. I bet we all can write different stories based on our assumptions only 😎


What I want at this point is for Mohsin to find out the truth about Maaz--how that happens, don't really care. Right when Mohsin is about to blow up at Aina, or perhaps he really does blow up at Aina, I want Imran to return after finding out about Maaz too. I want Imran to offer Aina to come with him so that they can live as a family with Maaz--and either Aina accepts the offer this time (because Mohsin is furious with her and she believes he'll never forgive her) or Aina is seriously considering the offer and Mohsin finds out and becomes fearful about losing Aina. That's when I want some big, convincing gesture to come from Mohsin that he cannot lose her and he needs to beg Aina for forgiveness. Aina should tell Mohsin to prove it, and he will need to prove it. Imran will realize that even if they have a son together, Aina needs Mohsin and Mohsin needs Aina and Imran cannot come between them.

Although the Maaz situation is tricky. I mean Aina needs to apologize to Mohsin, too, for this secret. He'll be mad, but I think justifiably so. Knowing Mohsin, though, he'll say something to her that's so cruel she'll be compelled to leave, or perhaps he'll make her leave himself. That's when Faraz should literally punch some sense into Mohsin about throwing away the best thing that's ever happened to him, and maybe then Mohsin will finally realize the severity of his words and actions to Aina *again, since this happened before the leap, too, but I guess we have to pretend like it didn't*.

I don't know how the logistics of what I just typed out will work, but this is the best I can come up with for how to redeem Mohsin and reconcile the Imran/Maaz stories.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: -RisingAsh-

Fobby

You need to watch Bashar Momin and Piya Mann Bhaye if you want to see him in different roles. In PMB he was playing a grey character which suited him well and the show was amazing too. And Bashar Momin is something class apart. Everyone SHOULD watch it !!! UFFF so many feeels ! Sorry for that extraaa thing but yeah these two shows had a different Sami for sure according to me.


I watched Bashar Momin and I hated Bashar Momin for multiple reasons. This is my opinion, but Sami's character of Bulund was truly not much different than his regular characters.

Sami acts well; he simply doesn't choose good scripts or different ranges.
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Posted: 7 years ago
HOW THE HE'LL IS IT POSSIBLE TO "NOT" LIKE SAMI KHAN
I agree he didn't get a good show since the last 2.5 yrs but it's his bad luck and wrong decision to b stuck with geo only

After do qadam door...bashar momin...piya Mann bhaye he wasn't offered a single good show

He was supposed to b in dil banjaara instead of that loser khelu as the writer wanted Sami in it but God damn HUM tv has issues with him...

I m sooo happy finally ARY brought him back

And last 2 yrs he lost a lot of weight n became skinny but now recently he has again put on some weight n got his fuller face back like the old days and looking a zillion bucks in rasm e duniya

And I love grey shaded heroes

So plz plz plz let's watch it together

And after saye e deewar I love bilaal bill as well
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Posted: 7 years ago
^ This plot sounds interesting Fobby.. let's see how they make things up. One thing that I loved in this is those punches Mohsin gets twice.. first one by Imran and second one by Faraz.. Those would help a lot in his development.


Aaina should apologize.. yes. But the fear of her getting all those taunts all over again is haunting. Like, she beared with all at that time and it was cruel to see Sajal's behaviour. Now if Mohsin would get to know about it.. how will he react ? That's the biggest question for me.. I guess at that time we will get to know what Mohsin actually thinks of her. And he will say it aloud.
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