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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: -RisingAsh-

Yar koi toh discuss karo.. mere sath. I want to understand some bits of the episode



I am yet to watch it. 😔
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Fobby_FoSho

So let me tell you guys how my day started. I set an alarm for the crack of dawn on Mondays and Tuesdays due to Kuch Na Kaho. This morning, however, I got a call from my boss just moments before my alarm went off telling me to go drive somewhere to do an interview. I knew right then I'd be delayed in watching the episode, so after I got into my car, before I started driving, I asked you guys to just let me know if MoNa made up and started living together.

Then I checked Navin's instagram, and there were only three comments about the new episode. Two of them said that the episode was boring and that Mohsin "should change". The other comment praised the episode. 2/3 negative reviews isn't good. That was my first warning.

Then I came here about two hours after the episode aired and I saw no new posts about the episode, whereas yesterday at the same time, there were literally pages and pages on the new episode. That was my second warning.

And finally, when you all started posting, it was like finding a needle in a haystack to see anything positive about the episode. That was my last warning. I knew after seeing all of that, something was very wrong with this episode.

I would like to remind everybody that just yesterday, I said I had extreme faith in the writers and that I knew what they were doing. I said I openly welcome the leap. I went into today with an open mind.

And also, please remember that I love this drama. I created this account just to talk about this drama. I have only ever posted in this drama's AT, and seeing as how I have over 100 posts, I have contributed a lot to the KnK discussion because I truly adore this serial. I have had my roommate tweet HSY to get EmNa on his show. I have posted here several times how I want them--from the writers to the producers to the actors--to get awards for this show. This was not an easy review for me to type. I also write professionally for a living, so while I am not calling myself anything close to an amazing reviewer or the most authoritative critic in the world, I think I know good writing when I see it, and I know bad writing when I see it, as well.

The episode started with the continuation of "Good" vs "Our" Mohsin, and that scene was just as flawless as yesterday's part of the conversation. "Good" Mohsin straight up told the other Mohsin that he had lost--Aina was a part of his life that he could never remove.

And then that...confession...for lack of a better word...came. I'm glad Mohsin apologized, but honestly Aina's comments on how she was basically settling for Mohsin because she had no other option was ridiculous. That, more than Mohsin, disturbed me the most in this entire episode. Aina was just realizing yesterday with the picture that those who demand their rights are the successful ones in life, and yet here she is, throwing in the towel and accepting her life with Mohsin as never going to be great. What the hell?!

So it seems like MoNa share a room now. Aight, that's one plus.

I can handle the kids calling her Aini, because they at least explained that that's what they called her their entire lives. Remember for like the first three years of Tabi's life (before MoNa married), Aina was Aini Aunty for her. And they do call her Mama occasionally. I would've been enraged if they called her Aunty.

To be fair, I'm sorry but I do think you guys made Mohsin sound a lot worse than he actually was. I was disappointed, too, that he kept throwing Aina's past in her face, but it was triggered by the thought of his girls growing up. Some of the comments here made it sound like it was a rehash ofMaalik Mansoor and Shehla, and Mohsin was not that bad, either. Even Aina mentioned that Mohsin's intensity lately was out of character for him, so it's not like he's always quite this strict.

Though, according to Tabi, he is normally strict. And what's worse, even Tabi and Raania admit that Aina cannot make Mohsin do anything. Tabi even threw it into Aina's face. This is where the regression comes in, and there's no excuse for this. Here we go.

For at least the past 4 episodes, we have seen Mohsin struggling with how much he needs Aina. He longed to touch her; he let her yell at him and gave into her demands, something he admitted he never let anyone in his life ever do. In this very same episode he told himself (himself, for goodness sake!) that he has lost his fight to keep Aina out of his life. He sought her out to tell her that. In his own way, he did tell her that. But according to the skip, Aina isn't an equal for Mohsin. He still ensures what he wants happens. Aina hasn't regressed to her post-Maaz depression level, nor did I expect her to be feisty with Mohsin at even this age, but the line that she can never convince Mohsin of anything, for lack of a more appropriate term, sucked. Even the kids knew she can't do anything, and that's not the MoNa, the Mohsin or the Aina we saw being developed over the past few episodes. This is the very definition of regression.

Some of you said that Mohsin's development is realistic, and I know that there are people in this world who go through some awful hardships and never change who they are, but that isn't something you should do in fiction, not unless you're writing like a villain or something. As I said, we spent the last few episodes watching Mohsin soften towards Aina, only to find out that he spent the last 18 years treating her as less than him and never compromising. This is not good writing. There is no way to defend this writing. It is a waste of the writers' time, the producers' time and the actors' and audience's time to have scenes of MoNa development only to make it worth nothing in the end. Some of you suggested they added cute MoNa scenes due to the growing popularity of EmNa, but the scene of Mohsin apologizing to Aina was in one of the original promos for this drama that aired in October, so the writers wrote Mohsin apologizing to her only to have it have no impact on the story. That's even worse. If the writers themselves didn't catch this huge character shift, at least the editors while making the cuts to the final episode could've commented on how in one scene we have Mohsin begging for forgiveness and in the next scene of his we have him throwing Aina's past into her face.

I think you guys may remember that last week I was complaining that it seemed like Mohsin would have development in one scene, and then act like that development didn't happen in the next scene. Now maybe it's understandable why I was so worried about Mohsin's lack of permanent character development.

I will take consolation in the fact that Mohsin didn't really yell at Aina like some of you said he did. And he definitely listened to her opinion, and I'm sure he let Tabinda have dinner because of what Aina said, so it's not like she has zero effect on him. But for the most part, this is not the post-leap MoNa that the writers were working towards. It truly is like two different people wrote the first scene with the two Mohsins and the rest of the episode.

My biggest fear with the timeskip was that we would get a MoNa cute-sy relationship and not be shown how they got there. How wrong I was...this was legitimately worse than my biggest fear because the characters actually got negative development after the timeskip.

I am praying that this episode was a fluke and that the rest of the episodes aren't this bad. I can only hope the writers have a big plan in mind and know why they're doing this to Mohsin and Aina.

Also, since Asad Zaman Khan said he was returning in one of the later episodes of KnK, I am currently afraid to death that he'll come back into Aina's life just when Mohsin mistreats her the most and she'll end up with him. 🤢

6/10. I think I'm being fair. The scene with the two Mohsin's, the fact that Aina has some effect on him and the "mere Mohsin" line make up the 6 points. The character regression make up the -4. Like I said, there's no defending that writing.


Thanks. You summed up what I (and many others) have been pointing out. This appears to be ridiculous, and I hate seeing Naveen and Emmad wasted esp. after those great romantic scenes between them. I mean, these days, whenever I imagine a romantic pair in my head, I imaging a young Mohsin and Aina (aka Emad and Naveen), and they are so very compelling together. TO think the makers are so inept and clueless about the great resource they have with them. I could imagine a Dhoop Kinare with them (without the exaggerated age difference of the original show), or a Humsafar. Sigh! This is worse than watching a show that stays awful throughout; I feel I have been played by the makers, and I don't care for that.
And at this point, with Mohsin turning out to be so loathsome, I'd rather Aina went with the man who is at least repentant and capable of loving her, aka Imran. This way, at least, one character will stay happy.
Edited by JNam - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
I STILL don't understand such outbursts towards Mohsin
Pak dramas don't show cute scenes epi after epi

Reality strikes and we hv to go with the flow

Surprisingly this show did have a few cute scenes

Other shows don't even hv that

So I will say slowly slowly the writers r changing

Coz in sanam obi himself write the last few scenes we crave for

In besharam there were lots of zahid Saba romantic scenes which we hardly cud imagine

So I guess slowly slowly the writing style will change

But still the honeymoon period of pak shows don't last long

It took me 3+ yrs to mk peace with this trend

Hence I m not that affected that we didn't get any cute Mona scenes

Coz whatever we got last 2 wks was beyond my expectations itself
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Posted: 7 years ago
And why such strong words for Mohsin
He was very much the way we hv always seen him

Yes he did soften a bit at times but he still shouted at AYNA whenever she tried to take a decision herself

So Mohsin character did hv different shades

FARAAZ n AYNA words do hv some effect on him n he calms down n 're considers

But at the end of the day he had always been Mohsin n he isn't a likeable character

It has different shades

It's just that we got so engrossed since last few weeks that we thought Mohsin will be the much coveted hero

But he is NOT

He is very much flawed but not as bad as people r pointing out

Such men exist in crores in our Asian sub continent

And they don't change n people around them adjust the way it's shown here so realistically
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Posted: 7 years ago
Abby it's not about getting MoNa scenes. It's about watching character development go down the drain. I would've been sooo much happier if they didn't show the kids telling Aina she has no effect on mohsin. Or how about Mohsin telling Aina he did her a favor by marrying her? I can do without ever getting a cute MoNa scene again, but it's this total regression that is making me mad. As you said we got plenty of scenes between them. Why were the results of all those scenes just thrown away?
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Posted: 7 years ago
@Abby its not abt cute MoNa scenes its about character regression for both Mohsin & Aina and more so Mohsin for me bec the pre leap Mohsin shown noway leads upto this current post leap Mohsin 👎🏼 Aina for once i can understand given that she when at her mothers place she asked the almighty to show her the way and thats when Mohsin came n apologised so she took that as the way shown by Allah n made peace with it keeping her own issues aside but I have no such base to give Mohsin any benefit of doubt for his post leap behaviour!
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Posted: 7 years ago
I hate when characters change too much too. I didn't want Mohsin to become a lovesick hero. I just wanted him to be more of a partner to Aina, but unfortunately it doesn't seem like a partnership between MoNa anymore.
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Posted: 7 years ago
I don't think those scenes were just thrown away
There shud b a change in equation in 18 yrs

N they didn't show Mohsin abusing AYNA

And it's not as if he is still in doubts ant her loyalty towards him

He is shown scared that tabi will.bring another Imran

And let's see how the next epis turn up

I m not siding with Mohsin

But all I m saying that it isn't out of character n in last few wks also he was very much Mohsin

He never became liberal even last 2 wks

So i didn't feel any drastic difference to hv brought out such outbursts

And ayna character hasn't been regressed either

Anyways too much has been said over today's epi

Let's see what the next wk brings

I don't want to sound like a tape recorder saying the same thing again and again

Also looking forward to after leap characterization of maaz n FARAAZ
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Fobby_FoSho

Abby it's not about getting MoNa scenes. It's about watching character development go down the drain. I would've been sooo much happier if they didn't show the kids telling Aina she has no effect on mohsin. Or how about Mohsin telling Aina he did her a favor by marrying her? I can do without ever getting a cute MoNa scene again, but it's this total regression that is making me mad. As you said we got plenty of scenes between them. Why were the results of all those scenes just thrown away?



Bang on! This is exactly what I felt after watching today's ep. Where is the character development that we have been observing in the last few eps from both Moshin and Anya? We SAW Anya having some impacts on Moshin and slowly changing him without trying much and now - the kids are saying she had no influence on him! Just absolute ridiculous! I am so disappointed that I really have no words to describe how I am feeling at the moment about today's ep...

Surprisingly, for the first time, I am not looking forward to watching the next ep but will watch it and do hope the writers and PH know what they are doing and will bring back the Moshin and Anya who we all knew and were familiar with - hopefully they are still there.

I still want Moshin and Anya to be together as a couple no matter what - it is my wish that when Imran come back - MoNa will be ready to face him with a strong contentment and understanding in their marriage. At the moment that seem unlikely...already missing the pre-leap MoNa at least then they were not only in their true character modes - they were also more insightful about their own emotions and thinking in regarding to themselves and to one another.

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Posted: 7 years ago
Fobby
No one said Mohsin was yelling at Ayna. We all were disappointed with Mohsin as he didn't change the way he had to after that pre leap development.


You found our reaction 'extra' cuz you already had an idea on how the epi would be.. hum sab ne toh directly dekhi na 😆 You had your own time to analyze the episode firstly by our reaction and then watching it on your own.


For me, all 4 episodes are a complete waste.. like for real. I am feeling so ajeeb. I got so connected to both Mohsin and Ayna's characters.. and now they did this to us.
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