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Posted: 8 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: .MysticalWaters
Why ram charitramanas and Valmiki's ramayan had two different versions of the same story.
Dosent it makes the crediability of the story in itself bieng questioned.
Did it happpened really or it was an imagination?
This in itself can be a highly debatable issue.
Why two versiona have different thibgs happening in the same story?
I am confused.

DEvdutt Pattnaik, who is consultant for this show, had told in one of the epi of Devlok on Epic channel, story of Ramayan was naratted to Valmiki by Naradji & Kag Bhushundi (shown in yesterday's epi) naratted it to Tulsidas, hence the difference.

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Janaki

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Posted: 8 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: .MysticalWaters

Di sita knew she was an incarnation of Goddess Laxmi?

Of course she knew, just as Lord Hanuman knew he was an incarnation of Lord Shiva.

When Gods and Goddesses incarnate on Earth, they don't do so to live and enjoy the life of humans, but to teach humanity a lesson. They may behave like humans and make other humans think they are humans, but in the end they are not ordinary human beings. They may have a human body, but they are divine souls who came to Earth for a reason, and left after that reason was fulfilled.

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Scarlet Wizard

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Posted: 8 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: -Mano-

Ram's actions are not justifiable to me
Having said that
He never doubted her
The agnipariksha and abandonment both was done for others sake
Not that I agree with it
It's still not agreeable
But Ram never doubted Sita,that's a fact

That is wha I want to say,

Ram's actions are not justifieble at any cost.

I agree he never doubtedher chastity but why did he abondened her?

In today's world we expect everyone to take an action after knowing each and every aspect of story,

So why that Time it happened.

He sent her somwhee else because someone questioned queen's chastity but there could havebeen other ways.

Clearing of the doubts was one of them which didnt happened.

I do not want to hurt anyone's sentiments but the abondentment is not at all justifiable to me.

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Scarlet Wizard

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Posted: 8 years ago

#34

Originally posted by: mnx12

DEvdutt Pattnaik, who is consultant for this show, had told in one of the epi of Devlok on Epic channel, story of Ramayan was naratted to Valmiki by Naradji & Kag Bhushundi (shown in yesterday's epi) naratted it to Tulsidas, hence the difference.

So which version should we follow?

Valmiki's or RamCharitramnas?

I mean we have two version , same story told by two different persons.

Variations will occur but which one two beleive is a question.

Because we can never know what happened eally we ca only follow the texts.

And when texts in themselves shows differences so confusions will occur.

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Mano.M

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Posted: 8 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: .MysticalWaters
Why ram charitramanas and Valmiki's ramayan had two different versions of the same story.
Dosent it makes the crediability of the story in itself bieng questioned.
Did it happpened really or it was an imagination?
This in itself can be a highly debatable issue.
Why two versiona have different thibgs happening in the same story?
I am confused.

Just imagine u narrate a story to ur friend

In return she narrates it to her friend

Both won't be 100% matching,though it's the same story

Story changes depends on narration and the narrator

And for Ramayan,it didn't happen some ten or twenty years back

When the story pass through 100 of years

It's interpreted in different ways

We never can prove that a particular version is right or wrong

That's my share of thoughts for u😉

And generally

That's why I am watching this as a new version

without comparison

And I am enjoying it

Once we start comparing and researching we loose the joy of watching it

Yes its's an epic,it attached to our beliefs

But it doesn't mean what we have been used to seeing till now is the best

As a women I am proud that it's form Sita's view

It's not sidelining Ram either

Just equal importance

For some it will take time to change

Changes are never accepted immediately

But we all know

"Change is the one thing that never Changes"😉

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Janaki

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Posted: 8 years ago

#36

No, Sita's abandonment was not justifiable, but I do not blame Ram at all. I blame the praja. For me, Ram and Sita were above fault (people may disagree, I don't care). They were God's incarnations and God doesn't make mistakes. They were not ordinary human beings to have faults and be gray shades. To say Ram and Sita had shades of gray is a joke IMO. They were not ordinary human beings.

Ram was a King and he had many responsibilities. I blame the people of Ayodhya for gossiping needlessly. I hate gossip mongers.

Anyway, I don't believe in judging the actions of treta yuga and dwapara yuga characters through our modern kali yuga lens. It just doesn't work that way for me, and if people disagree, oh well. Each to their own.

But in my honest opinion, it sounds ridiculous to point fingers at God's incarnations like Ram and Krishna. Every action of theirs had a reason and if people cannot think out of the box and try to understand that reason, then they're really missing out on a chunk of the epic.

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Janaki

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Posted: 8 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: .MysticalWaters

So which version should we follow?
Valmiki's or RamCharitramnas?
I mean we have two version , same story told by two different persons.
Variations will occur but which one two beleive is a question.
Because we can never know what happened eally we ca only follow the texts.
And when texts in themselves shows differences so confusions will occur.

You have the right to follow and believe whatever you want. Follow the version that brings you closer to Siya Ram. That is what I would say. 👍🏼

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mnx12

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Posted: 8 years ago

#38

Originally posted by: .MysticalWaters
So which version should we follow?
Valmiki's or RamCharitramnas?
I mean we have two version , same story told by two different persons.
Variations will occur but which one two beleive is a question.
Because we can never know what happened eally we ca only follow the texts.
And when texts in themselves shows differences so confusions will occur.

Read all, accept the first ever version, which may be more accurate.
Every retelling brings some change.
Every interpretation teaches something new.
Have a neutral approach, the real crux of the story will itself reveal to you. That is the beauty of our Mythology.

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Mano.M

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Posted: 8 years ago

#39

Originally posted by: .MysticalWaters
That is wha I want to say,
Ram's actions are not justifieble at any cost.
I agree he never doubtedher chastity but why did he abondened her?
In today's world we expect everyone to take an action after knowing each and every aspect of story,
So why that Time it happened.

He sent her somwhee else because someone questioned queen's chastity but there could havebeen other ways.
Clearing of the doubts was one of them which didnt happened.
I do not want to hurt anyone's sentiments but the abondentment is not at all justifiable to me.

Exactly

That's why it's debated till now

That makes Ram more human

He had his misjudgment,mistakes

That's why he isn't purely white

Like the writer of the show said

If Valmuki wanted he could have avoided showing

Agnipariksha or Abandonment or Vali Vadh

That would have made Ram 100% perfect and purely white

But he did write it

That gives a grey shade or say different color to Ram

Ram isn't purely white

Though they give different reasoning for his actions

But still wrong is wrong

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Mano.M

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Posted: 8 years ago

#40

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..
No, Sita's abandonment was not justifiable, but I do not blame Ram at all. I blame the praja. For me, Ram and Sita were above fault (people may disagree, I don't care). They were God's incarnations and God doesn't make mistakes. They were not ordinary human beings to have faults and be gray shades. To say Ram and Sita had shades of gray is a joke IMO. They were not ordinary human beings.

Ram was a King and he had many responsibilities. I blame the people of Ayodhya for gossiping needlessly. I hate gossip mongers.

Anyway, I don't believe in judging the actions of treta yuga and dwapara yuga characters through our modern kali yuga lens. It just doesn't work that way for me, and if people disagree, oh well. Each to their own.

But in my honest opinion, it sounds ridiculous to point fingers at God's incarnations like Ram and Krishna. Every action of theirs had a reason and if people cannot think out of the box and try to understand that reason, then they're really missing out on a chunk of the epic.

That's the beauty of our system

U can question even God if he is wrong

Gods did get cursed by humans

If God wanted to remain God and not to be criticized

Then why would he be born as a human on earth

People around us say many things

But we can't change our stand for it

By giving into peoples gossips,Ram set an bad example

So does that mean following that

I should give more importance to people in society than my dear ones

Just bcos they are my responsibility

These epics are made for us

So we have the right to criticize it if we find something wrong

be it treta yuga or dwapara yuga or the present day

Epics are still followed,read,Portrayed,discussed

Then why not criticized

It's just my take

I am not saying ur wrong but I am not wrong either

Edited by -Mano- - 8 years ago

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