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Posted: 8 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: .MysticalWaters

Sita proves her chastity by undergoing a trial by fire. Thereafter, Rama and Sita return to Ayodhya, where they are crowned as king and queen. However, Rama abandons a pregnant Sita when one of his subjects casts doubt over her chastity. In the refuge of Sage Valmiki's hermitage Sita gives birth to twins Lava and Kusha. After her sons grow up and unite with their father, Sita returns to her mother, the Earth's womb, for release from a cruel world as a testimony of her purity. Her other names are Bhumije and Janaki.[4]
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It sayd that Ram abondened sita because one of his subjects Possed a doubt over sita's chastity,leaving your wife to somewhere else just because someone possed A Doubt,Isng it wrong?
Just a curious question.

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Edited by NavyaKavya30 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: -Mano-

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">Sensible post TM</font>

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">I share ur exact same thought👍🏼</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">We have seen this gold aspects in so many show now</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">And we r not ready to accept anything negative about godly portrayals</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">But there are things tat needs to be addressed</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">I recently read an IV of Debina who played Sita in NDTV Ramayna</font>


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">When the agni parksha scene was shot</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">It was shown like someone else ask her to proceed with the test</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">Debina went to the director and asked</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">Why is it not Ram who is not saying those words in the show</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">And he replied"Ram is divine,we can't show anything negative"</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">What do we want to see a completely white Ram</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">Offcourse he is great</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">But he had his own share of mistakes,wrongs</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">Since it's a human avathar better show him as a human</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">Yes he will have this super power in him</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">yet he was a human</font>

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">I am liking the way the show is moving forward</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#00cc99">Hope we get answers to our question</font>

Please don't compare Daily soap Ram with epic Ram.Valmiki Ramayana never showed lord Ram as god and perfectionist.in Valmiki Ramayana Ram never know his true identity. Ram was shown as normal human. in fact there are few sections where Lord Ram badmouthing about his father and mother. That scenes are chopped because some believes that will bring gray shades to Ram character how to say? Ram was normal human. sometimes he cursed fate,god and himself for upholding dharma new because that makes him suffer. but next moment he overcomes his sorrows and upholds his morals to do his dharma. That's why he is Maryada Purshottam. but our soap's Rams are highly manipulated.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: .MysticalWaters

Sita proves her chastity by undergoing a trial by fire. Thereafter, Rama and Sita return to Ayodhya, where they are crowned as king and queen. However, Rama abandons a pregnant Sita when one of his subjects casts doubt over her chastity. In the refuge of Sage Valmiki's hermitage Sita gives birth to twins Lava and Kusha. After her sons grow up and unite with their father, Sita returns to her mother, the Earth's womb, for release from a cruel world as a testimony of her purity. Her other names are Bhumije and Janaki.[4]
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It sayd that Ram abondened sita because one of his subjects Possed a doubt over sita's chastity,leaving your wife to somewhere else just because someone possed A Doubt,Isng it wrong?
Just a curious question.


Regarding Sita's abandonment in Uttar Kand, I will explain this also after I eat lunch, but I really feel movies from the 60s and 70s badly tarnished Ram's image in showing this story. I have seen movies that show Ram as coldhearted and loveless, and I hate such a portrayal of him. In Valmiki's Uttar Kand, which is the only version to really have the abandonment, Ram does not carelessly abandon Sita to be left on her own. There is more to the story and I will explain after lunch, lol.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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If characters or Ramayan are considered Divine (they definately were), then whole perspective changes. All their actions are seen as lesson, teachings etc. Puranas have many back stories to support them.
If they are considered human, then all characters had some or other weak pts. This story happened during end of Treta Yuga. But it's judged on KaliYuga standards. So definately from men's or woman's perspective it can be interpreted.
Devdutt Pattnaik, had said in his show Devlok, story of Ramayan was told to Valmiki by Naradji.
Kag Bhushundi is witnessing this story too live, which he may narrate from his pov in future.
Every time Ramayan is read, heard or told, interpretation varies.
Sita being the leading lady will try to show her qualities in this version of SKR. Story will remain the same only the treatement will differ.
So mainly its the story of Ramayan but may give an equal importance to Sita.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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One other thing - Ram KNEW he was God, even in Valmiki Ramayan. There are several verses in Valmiki Ramayan where Ram gives divine darshan to sages in Aranya Kand, and during Ram-Hanuman milan we also see evidence that Ram knows his divine nature.

Ram of course knew he was Vishnu's incarnation. How could he not? It's a joke to think God would not know he's God. However, Ram was born as a human NOT to behave like every other human, but to teach humanity how to behave.

So showing Ram as a flawed human being is totally inappropriate and wrong. He did not represent the general human population. Ravan represented the general human population. Ram represented the heights to which a human can aspire if they only try.

Ram and Sita were ideal souls. Every moment of their life was spent teaching humanity how they should live.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Why ram charitramanas and Valmiki's ramayan had two different versions of the same story.
Dosent it makes the crediability of the story in itself bieng questioned.
Did it happpened really or it was an imagination?
This in itself can be a highly debatable issue.
Why two versiona have different thibgs happening in the same story?
I am confused.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: .MysticalWaters

Sita proves her chastity by undergoing a trial by fire. Thereafter, Rama and Sita return to Ayodhya, where they are crowned as king and queen. However, Rama abandons a pregnant Sita when one of his subjects casts doubt over her chastity. In the refuge of Sage Valmiki's hermitage Sita gives birth to twins Lava and Kusha. After her sons grow up and unite with their father, Sita returns to her mother, the Earth's womb, for release from a cruel world as a testimony of her purity. Her other names are Bhumije and Janaki.[4]
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It sayd that Ram abondened sita because one of his subjects Possed a doubt over sita's chastity,leaving your wife to somewhere else just because someone possed A Doubt,Isng it wrong?
Just a curious question.


Ram's actions are not justifiable to me
Having said that
He never doubted her
The agnipariksha and abandonment both was done for others sake
Not that I agree with it
It's still not agreeable
But Ram never doubted Sita,that's a fact
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Originally posted by: .MysticalWaters

Sita proves her chastity by undergoing a trial by fire. Thereafter, Rama and Sita return to Ayodhya, where they are crowned as king and queen. However, Rama abandons a pregnant Sita when one of his subjects casts doubt over her chastity. In the refuge of Sage Valmiki's hermitage Sita gives birth to twins Lava and Kusha. After her sons grow up and unite with their father, Sita returns to her mother, the Earth's womb, for release from a cruel world as a testimony of her purity. Her other names are Bhumije and Janaki.[4]
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It sayd that Ram abondened sita because one of his subjects Possed a doubt over sita's chastity,leaving your wife to somewhere else just because someone possed A Doubt,Isng it wrong?
Just a curious question.

there is a phrase Caesar's wife mustbe above suspicion Lord Ram never left Sita because people doubted her chastity but King Ram abandoned Queen Sita because people doubted queens chastity.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

One other thing - Ram KNEW he was God, even in Valmiki Ramayan. There are several verses in Valmiki Ramayan where Ram gives divine darshan to sages in Aranya Kand, and during Ram-Hanuman milan we also see evidence that Ram knows his divine nature.

Ram of course knew he was Vishnu's incarnation. How could he not? It's a joke to think God would not know he's God. However, Ram was born as a human NOT to behave like every other human, but to teach humanity how to behave.

So showing Ram as a flawed human being is totally inappropriate and wrong. He did not represent the general human population. Ravan represented the general human population. Ram represented the heights to which a human can aspire if they only try.

Ram and Sita were ideal souls. Every moment of their life was spent teaching humanity how they should live.

Di sita knew she was an incarnation of Goddess Laxmi?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: .MysticalWaters

Why ram charitramanas and Valmiki's ramayan had two different versions of the same story.

Dosent it makes the crediability of the story in itself bieng questioned.
Did it happpened really or it was an imagination?
This in itself can be a highly debatable issue.
Why two versiona have different thibgs happening in the same story?
I am confused.


Each author interprets the story differently. We can never know what truly happened, but since this is God's story, our belief is what matters. Every individual can believe what they want, as long as what they believe brings them closer to God and helps them understand the essence of Ram and Sita.

In the end of the day, we have to remember this is a story of divine beings. Although they were born humans, we cannot ignore the divine aspect or else half the essence of the epic is gone. As divine beings, everything they did was to teach us some lesson. Who are we to question God and think ourselves greater than God? Ram loved Sita and Sita loved Ram. No one can deny this fact. No matter what version one follows, this fact is apparent in every version. Their love for each other is unparalleled in the universe. Theirs is the ultimate love story.
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