American Federal Reserve-Private entity? another nutcase

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In 1934, Congressman Louis T. McFadden of Pennsylvania gave an astounding speech exposing who was behind the Fed.


"Mr. Chairman, we have in this Country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks, hereinafter called the Fed. The Fed has cheated the Government of these United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the Nation's debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Fed has cost enough money to pay the National debt several times over.

"This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of these United States, has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Fed and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.

"Some people who think that the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lender. In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are those who send money into states to buy votes to control our legislatures; there are those who maintain International propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us into granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of crime.

"These twelve private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this Country by the bankers who came here from Europe and repaid us our hospitality by undermining our American institutions. Those bankers took money out of this Country to finance Japan in a war against Russia. They created a reign of terror in Russia with our money in order to help that war along. They instigated the separate peace between Germany and Russia, and thus drove a wedge between the allies in World War. They financed Trotsky's passage from New York to Russia so that he might assist in the destruction of the Russian Empire. They fomented and instigated the Russian Revolution, and placed a large fund of American dollars at Trotsky's disposal in one of their branch banks in Sweden so that through him Russian homes might be thoroughly broken up and Russian children flung far and wide from their natural protectors. They have since begun breaking up of American homes and the dispersal of American children. "Mr. Chairman, there should be no partisanship in matters concerning banking and currency affairs in this Country, and I do not speak with any.

"The Federal Reserve Bank destroyed our old and characteristic way of doing business. It discriminated against our 1-name commercial paper, the finest in the world, and it set up the antiquated 2-name paper, which is the present curse of this Country and which wrecked every country which has ever given it scope; it fastened down upon the Country the very tyranny from which the framers of the Constitution sough to save us.

How can a central bank be a private entity? Is it possible? Another nutcase-this Congressman Louis T. McFadden.

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THE GREAT AMERICAN DEPRESSION


The nineteen twenties was a period of great prosperity in the United States.
The financial jackals decided that it is the right time to pull the rug from the feet of the gullible.

Schemes were laid down where by paying a small amount , you could buy almost anything , provided you give a monthly recurring payment--or in short put the common man in the vice of debt.

The gullible common Yank had NO dang idea , of the dangers of debt and high interest rates -- and kept shopping merrily.

Advertising became part of the fabric of American culture as ads dominated newspapers and magazines--about huge discounts and hassle free loans.

Keeping up with the Joneses , social snobbery and false studies convinced consumers to buy more.

With massive corporate growth, high employment and a post-war bull-market on Wall Street, first time American investors went on a stock-market buying spree.

Everyone wanted a piece of this cake.

People bought stock on margin or credit for as little as 10% down. They then used the stock as collateral to borrow more money to buy more stock. Then they did it again. The market was a free-for-all. It was prosperity heaven.

Although everything looked rosy, it was a castle made of sand and the great party ended on October 29th. 1929 when the stock market crashed and caught everyone off guard.

Everyone except the Jew money bag insiders and the financial jackals --that is.

In April of 1929, Paul Warburg, the father of the Fed, sent out a secret advisory warning his friends that a collapse and nationwide depression was certain, then in August of 1929 the Fed began to tighten money.

Huge financial Wall Street giants were forewarned in secret of the incoming tsunami . John D. Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, Bernard Beruch and all the Free Masons ( read as the old Opium running parters of Rothschild family) got out of the stock market just before the crash and put all their assets in cash or gold.

On October 24th, 1929, the big NY bankers called in their 24-hour broker call loans. This meant that both stockbrokers and customers had to dump their stocks on the market to cover their loans, no matter what price they had to sell them for. As a result, the market tumbled and that day was known as "Black Thursday".

Curtis Dall, a broker for Lehman brothers, was on the floor of the NY stock exchange the day of the crash. In his 1970 book, "FDR: my exploited father in law", he explained that the crash was triggered by the planned sudden shortage of call money in the NY money market.

Within a few weeks, $3 billion vanished into thin air. Within a year, $40 billion vanished.

But did it really disappear?

Or was it simply netted by the financial jackals?

And what did the Fed do? Instead of moving to help the economy out, by quickly lowering interest rates to stimulate the economy, the Fed continued to brutally contract the money supply further, deepening the depression.

Between 1929 and 1933, the Fed reduced the money supply by an additional 33%. The Federal reserve engineered the great Depression.

But the money lost by the common Yank during the depression, didn't just vanish. It was lined the nests of the jackals who had gotten out just before the crash and had purchased gold, which is always a safe place to put your money just before a depression.

Following the crash the great depression put 1/3 of the US workforce out of work.

The banks foreclosed on property and took possession of peoples' homes and farms. When panicked citizens lined-up at banks to withdraw their hard earned savings, the banks gave them only 10c on the dollar.

Homeless and desperate, many Americans set up tent cities and roamed the rails looking for work.

Congressman Louis McFadden, chairman of the House Banking Committee, claimed the crash was planned by the international bankers who sought to become rulers of us all. In his famous 1932 Congressional address he said "Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks. The Federal Reserve Board has cheated the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt 3 times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States through the defects of the law in which it operates and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.


The common Yank thinks the Federal Reserve Banks are government institutions. They are not government institutions; they are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves.

Following a series of death threats, McFadden was finally poisoned and done in by the jackals.



The king maker in England for Winston Churchill and for every American president from Wilson to Eisenhover ( Ike ) was Bernard Baruch, the billionaire Zionist Jewish Financier,who was Ro th c hild's agent in USA and also a Ro th s c hild bloodline clone



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Now"

We all know that inflation is caused by money supply growing faster than the rate of economic growth.

The task of keeping the rate of inflation low and stable is usually given to the central banks that control the size of the money supply through the setting of interest rates, through open market operations, and through the setting of banking reserve requirements.

Now"

HOW DOES THE CORRUPT US FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WORK?

This is real"and NOT an imaginary story like the traveller in Alabama.

How does the US monetary system work ?

This is bound to shock you out of your skin.


Taking on nearly religious proportions, the established monetary institution exists as one of the most unquestioned forms of faith there is. How money is created, the policies by which it is governed and how it truly affects society are unregistered interests of the great majority of the population.
In a world where 1% of the population owns 40% of the planet's wealth...in a world where 34,000 children die every single day from poverty and preventable diseases, and where 50% of the world's population lives on less than 2 dollars a day... one thing is clear:

Something is terribly wrong.

And whether we are aware of it or not, the lifeblood of all of our established institutions and thus society itself, is money. Therefore understanding this institution of monetary policy is critical to understanding why our lives are the way they are.

Unfortunately, economics is often viewed with confusion and boredom. Endless streams of financial jargon coupled with intimidating mathematics quickly deter people from attempts at understanding it. However, the fact is, the complexity associated with the financial system is a mere mask, designed to conceal one of the most socially paralyzing structures humanity has ever endured.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
The United States Government decides it needs some money, so it calls up the Federal Reserve, and requests, say, 10 billion dollars". The fed replies, saying " sure... we'll buy 10 billion in government bonds from you."



So, the government then takes some piece of paper, paints some official looking designs on them, and calls them Treasury Bonds'. Then, it puts a value on these Bonds to the sum of 10 billion dollars, and sends them over to the Fed. In turn, the people at the Fed draw up a bunch of impressive pieces of paper themselves, only this time calling them Federal Reserve Notes'...also designating a value of 10 billion dollars to the set.


The Fed then takes these notes and trades them for the Bonds. Once this exchange is complete, the government then takes the 10 billion in Federal Reserve Notes and deposits it into a bank account...and upon this deposit, the paper notes officially become legal tender' money, adding 10 billion to the US money supply. And there it is... 10 billion in new money has been created.


Of course, this example is a generalization, for, in reality, this transaction would occur electronically, with no paper used at all. In fact only 3% of the US money supply exists in physical currency. The other 97% essentially exists in computers alone.


Now, Government bonds are, by design, instruments of Debt and when the Fed purchases these bonds, with money it created essentially out of thin air, the government is actually promising to pay back that money to the Fed.
In other words... The money was created out of debt. This mind numbing paradox of how money, or value, can be created out of debt, or a liability, will become more clear as we further this exercise.
So, the exchange has been made and now 10 billion dollars sits in a commercial bank account. Here is where it gets really interesting, for as based on the Fractional Reserve practice, that 10 billion dollar deposit instantly becomes part of the bank's Reserves, just as all deposits do. And regarding reserve requirements, as stated in Modern money mechanics:

A bank must maintain legally required reserves, equal to a prescribed percentage of its deposits. It then quantifies this by stating: under current regulations, the reserve requirement against most transaction accounts is 10%."

This means that with a ten billion dollar deposit, 10% or 1 billion is held as the required reserve, while the other 9 billion is considered an excessive reserve and can be used as the basis for new loans.

Now, it is logical to assume that this 9 billion is literally coming out of the existing 10 billion dollars deposit. However, this is actually not the case. What really happens is that the 9 billion is simply created out of thin air, on top of the existing 10 billion dollar deposit. This is how the money supply is expanded.

The banks do not really pay out loans from the money they receive as deposits. If they did this, no additional money would be created. What they do when they make loans is to accept promissory notes (loan contracts) in exchange for credits (money) to the borrower's transaction accounts."

In other words, the 9 billion can be created out of nothing, simply because there is a demand for such a loan, and there is a 10 billion dollars deposit to satisfy the reserve requirements.

Now, let's assume that somebody walks into this bank and borrows the available 9 billion dollars. They will then most likely take that money and deposit it into their own bank account.

The process then repeats, for that deposit becomes part of the banks reserves, 10% is isolated and in turn 90% of the 9 billion or 8.1 billion is now available as newly created money for more loans. And, of course, that 8.1 can be loaned out and redeposited creating an additional 7.2 billion...to 6.5 billion.. to 5.9 billion etc.

This deposit-money creation-loan cycle can technically go on to infinity... the average mathematical result is that about 90 billion dollars can be created on top of the original 10 billion. In other words, for every deposit that ever occurs in the banking system, about 9 times that amount can be created out of thin air.

So that we understand how money is created by this fractional reserve banking system ,a logical, yet elusive question might come to mind:

What is actually giving this newly created money value?

The answer: The money that already exists.

The new money essentially steals value from the existing money supply... for the total pool of money is being increased, irrespective to demand for goods and services, and, as supply and demand finds equilibrium- prices rise, diminishing the purchasing power of each individual dollar.
This is generally referred to as inflation' and inflation is essentially a hidden tax on the public. ( I thing we have given Manmohan Singh and Montek Singh Ahluwalia enough time to figure out all this !)
What is the advice that you generally get, and that is inflate the currency. They don't say debase the currency, they don't say devalue the currency, they don't say cheat the people with savings, they say lower the interest rates.

The real deception is when we distort the value of money, when we create money out of thin air, we have no savings yet there's so called capitol...so the question boils down to this-how in the world can we expect to solve the problems of inflation-that is the increase in the supply of money- with more inflation? "
Of course, it can't. The Fractional Reserve System of monetary expansion is inherently.

inflationary. For the act of expanding the money supply without there being a proportional expand of good and services in the economy, will always debase a currency..

In fact a quick glance at the historical values of the US dollars Vs the money supply,reflects this point definitively, for the inverse relationship is obvious.

In fact, One dollar in 1913 required 21.60 cents in 2007, to match value...that is a 96% devaluation since the Federal reserve has come into existence.

Now, if this realty of inherent and perpetual inflation seems absurd and economically self-defeating... hold that thought, for absurdity is an understatement in regard to how our financial system really operates.

For in US financial system money is debt and debt is money.


-- the more money there is, the more debt there is... the more debt there is, the more money there is.


To put it a different way, every single dollar in your wallet is owed to somebody by somebody; for remember, the only way the money can come into existence is from loans. Therefore, if everyone in the country were able to pay off all debts, including the government, there would not be one dollar in circulation.
(If there were no debts in US money system, there wouldn't be any money"

The international bankers installed a central bank in 1913...The Federal Reserve. And as long as this institution exists, perpetual debt is guaranteed.
Now, so far we have discussed the reality that money is created out of debt, through loans.


These loans are based on a bank's "Reserves" and Reserves are derived from deposits. Through this fractional reserve system, any one deposit can create 9 times its original value, in turn debasing the existing money supply, raising prices in society.


And since all this money is created out of debt and circulated randomly through commerce, people become detached from their original debt and a disequilibrium exists where people are forced to compete for labor, in order to pull enough money out of the money supply to cover their costs of living.

As dysfunctional and backwards as all of this might seem... there is still one thing we have omitted from this equation... and it is this element of the structure which reveals the truly fraudulent nature of the system itself.

-The application of Interest.

When the government borrows money from the Fed or when person borrows money from a bank, it almost always has to be paid back with accrued interest. In other words, almost every single dollar that exists must be eventually returned to a bank, with interest paid as well.



But, if all money is borrowed from the central bank and is expanded by the commercial banks through loans, only what would be referred to as the principle' is being created in the money supply... So then, where is the money to cover all of the interest that is charged?

Nowhere. It doesn't exist. The ramifications of this are staggering, for the amount of money owed back to the banks will always exceed the amount of money that is available in circulation. This is why Inflation is a constant in the economy, for new money is always needed to help cover the perpetual deficit built into the system, caused by the the need to pay the interest.

What this also means is that mathematically, defaults and bankruptcy are literally built into the system. And there will always be poor pockets of society that get the short end of the stick. An analogy would be a game of musical chairs, for once the music stops someone is left out to dry.

And that's the point. It invariably transfers true wealth from the individual to the banks, for if you are unable to pay for your mortgage, they will take your property.

This is particularly enraging when you realize that not only is such a default inevitable due to the fractional reserve practice, but also because of the fact that the money that the bank loaned to you didn't even legally exist in the first place.

In the 1969, there was a Minnesota court case involving a man named Jerome Daly, who was challenging the foreclosure of his home by the bank, which provided the loan to purchase it. His argument was that the mortgage contract required both parties, being he and the bank, each put up a legitimate form of property for the exchange. In legal language, this is called "consideration".


(Consideration: -a contract's basis. A contract is founded on an exchange of one form of consideration for another.)
Mr. Daly explained that the money was, in fact, not the property of the bank, for it was created out of nothing as soon as the loan agreement was signed.

Remember what modern money mechanics stated about loans: "what they do when they make loans is to accept promissory notes in exchange for credits...Reserves are unchanged by the loan transactions. But deposit credits constitute new additions to the total deposits of the banking system." In other words, the money doesn't come out of any of their existing assets. The bank is simply inventing it, putting up nothing of its own except for a theoretical liability on paper.



As the court case progressed, the banks president, Mr. Morgan, took the stand, and in the judge's personal memorandum, he recalled that "The Plaintiff (bank's president) admitted that it, in combination with the Federal Reserve Bank...did create the...money and credit upon its books by bookkeeping entry...the money and credit first came into existence when they created it...Mr. Morgan admitted that no United States law or statute existed which gave him the right to do this...a lawful consideration must exist and be tendered to support the note." "The jury found that there was no lawful consideration and I agree" He also poetically added, " Only God can create something of value out of nothing"

And upon that revelation, the court rejected the bank's claim for foreclosure and Daly kept his home. The implications of this court decision are immense, for every time you borrow money from a bank, whether it is a mortgage loan or a credit card charge, the money given to you is not only counterfeit, it is an illegitimate form of consideration and hence voids the contract to repay... for the bank never had the money as property to begin with. Unfortunately, such legal realizations are suppressed and ignored, and the game of perpetual wealth transfer and perpetual debt continues...

And this brings us to the ultimate question: why?

During the American civil war president Lincoln bypassed the high-interest loans offered by the European banks and decided to do what the founding fathers advocated, which was to create an independent and inherently debt-free currency. It was called the Greenback. Shortly after this measure was taken, an internal document circulated between private British and American banking interests stated:


"...slavery is but the owning of labor and carries with it the care of laborers, while the European plan...is that capital shall control labor by controlling wages.

This can be done by controlling the money. It will not do to allow the greenback, as we cannot control that."-The Hazard Circular, July, 1862

The fractional reserve policy perpetrated by the Federal Reserve, which has spread in practice to the great majority of banks in the world is, in fact, a system of modern slavery. Think about it...

Money is created out of debt. And what do people do when in debt? They submit to employment to pay it off.

But, if money can only be created out of loans, how can society ever be debt free? It can't. And that's the point.
And it is the fear of losing assets, coupled with the struggle to keep up with the perpetual debt and inflation inherent in the system, compounded by the inescapable scarcity within the money supply itself created by the interest that can never be repaid... that keeps the wage slave in line... running on the hamster wheel with the millions of others... in effect powering an Empire that truly benefits only the elite at the top of the pyramid...


---for at the end of day, who are you really working for? The banks. Money is created in a bank and invariably ends up in a bank. They are the true masters along with corporations and governments they support.
Physical slavery requires people to be housed and fed. Economic slavery requires the people to feed and house themselves.

It is one of the most ingenious scams for social manipulation ever created, and at its core, it is an invisible war against the population. Debt is the weapon used to conquer and enslave societies and Interest is its prime ammunition.

And as the majority walks around oblivious to this reality, the banks, in collusion with governments and corporations, continue to perfect and expand their tactics of economic warfare...spawning new bases... such as the World Bank and International Monetary Fund... while also inventing a new type of soldier... the birth of the economic hit man.

( There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.-John Adams-1735-1826).

How does the IMF and the World Bank work: they put a country in debt, in such a big debt it can't pay it, and then you offer to refinance that debt, and pay even more interest, and you demand this quid pro quo which you call a "conditionality" or "good governance"


--- which means basically that they've got to sell off their resources, including many of their social services; their utility companies; their school systems sometimes; their penal systems; their insurance systems, to foreign corporations. So its a double, triple, quadruple whammy.
This isn't a conspiracy theory type of thing, these people don't have to get together and plot to do things, they all basically work under one primary assumption, and that is that they must maximize profits, regardless of the social and environmental cost


(Maximize profits, regardless of the social and environmental cost)


This process of manipulation by the corporatacracy through the use of debt, bribery and, political overthrow is called "Globalization". Just as the federal reserve keeps the American public in a position of indentured servitude through Perpetual Debt, Inflation and Interest, the World Bank and IMF serve this role on a global scale.

The basic scam is simple. Put a country in debt either by its own indiscretion or through corrupting the leader of that country, then , impose conditionalities, or Structural Adjustment Policies...often consisting of currency devaluation, privatization of state-owned enterprises trade liberalization.. or the opening up of the economy through removing any restrictions on foreign trade.

This allows for a number of abusive economic manifestations... such as transnational corporations bringing in their own mass produced products, undercutting the indigenous production and ruining local economies... Today, countless farmers are out of work, for they are unable to compete with the large corporations.

Another variation is the creation of numerous, seemingly unnoticed, unregulated, inhumane sweatshop factories, which take advantage of the imposed economic hardship.


Additionally, due to production deregulation, environmental destruction is perpetual, as a country's resources are often exploited by the indifferent corporations, while outputting large amounts of deliberate pollution.



Of the world's top 100 economies, as based on the annual GDP, 51 are corporations,

And 47 of that 51 are US based. Wal-mart, General Motors and Exxon are more economically powerful than Saudi Arabia, Poland, Norway, South Africa, Finland, Indonesia and many others...

You get up on your TV screen, and howl democracy...there is no democracy...there is only IBM and ITT...and AT&T...and Dupont, Dow, Union Carbine, Enron...and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.



The world is being taken over by a handful of business powers, who dominate the natural resources we need to live, while controlling the money that we need to obtain these resources.
The end result will be world monopoly, based not human life, but financial and corporate power.

And as the inequality continues, naturally more and more people are becoming desperate... so the establishment was forced to come up with a new way to deal with anyone who challenges the system...so they gave birth to the terrorist..


The term terrorist ( or a Naxalite in India ) is an empty distinction, designed for any person or group who chooses to challenge the Establishment.


"GREED AND COMPETITION ARE NOT THE RESULT OF IMMUTABLE HUMAN TEMPERMENT...GREED AND FEAR OF SCARCITY ARE IN FACT BEING CREATED AND AMPLIFIED ...THE DIRECT CONSEQUENCE IS THAT WE HAVE TO FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER IN ORDER TO SURVIVE".
-Bernard Lietaer, Founder of the EU Currency System

The cold war and the collapse of the Soviet Union was, in reality, a way to preserve & perpetuate the established economic and global hegemony of the United States...similarly religions condition people to feel guilty for natural inclinations, each claiming to offer the only path to forgiveness and salvation.

At the heart of this institutional self-preservation lies the monetary system, for it is money that provides the means for power and survival.

Therefore, just as a poor person might be forced to steal in order to survive, it is a natural inclination to do whatever is needed to continue an institution's profitability.




This makes it inherently difficult for profit-based institutions to change, for it puts in jeopardy not only the survival of large groups of people, but also the coveted, materialistic lifestyles associated with affluence, and power.


Therefore, the paralyzing necessity to preserve an institution, regardless of its social relevance, is largely rooted in the need for money, or profit.

What's in it for me', is the way people think. And so if a man makes money selling a certain product, naturally he is going to fight the existence of another product that may threaten his institution. Therefore people cannot be fair and people do not trust each other.


A guy will come over to you and say, "I've got just the house you're looking for". He's a salesman.


When a doctor says I think your kidney has to come out', I don't know if he's trying to pay off a yacht, or that my kidney has to come out- it's hard in monetary system to trust people.

If a company dumps toxic waste into the ocean to save money, most people recognize this as corrupt behavior. On a more subtle level, when WalMart moves into a small town and forces small businesses to shut down, for they are unable to complete, a gray area emerges...

For what exactly is Walmart doing wrong?


Why should they care about mom and pop organizations they destroy.



Yet, even more subtly, when a person gets fired from their job, because a new machine has been created which can do the work for less money, people tend to just accept that as " the way it is" -- not seeing the inherent, corrupt inhumanity of such an action.



"WE CAN EITHER HAVE DEMOCRACY IN THIS COUNTRY OR WE CAN HAVE GREAT WEALTH CONCENTRATED IN THE HANDS OF A FEW, BUT WE CAN'T HAVE BOTH" - Louis Brandeis, supreme court justice



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  1. My question is regarding the following statement's:

    1. What really happens is that the 9 billion is simply created out of thin air, on top of the existing 10 billion dollar deposit. This is how the money supply is expanded.

    and

    " In other words, the money doesn't come out of any of their existing assets. The bank is simply inventing it, putting up nothing of its own except for a theoretical liability on paper".

    My questions:

    1.What do you mean by "9 billion is simply created out of thin air"? what is this "thin air" if all the cash is printed by govt.?

    2.Also how do banks go bust if they have this type of system in place?

    I sincerely appreciate your efforts in exposing the things you have a lot of courage and thank you for your sincere efforts.

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  2. hi,

    i will be posting on this soon again in more detail.

    ordinary banks cannot print money, they can only increase circulation.

    the CENTRAL BANK or FEDERAL RESERVE BANK which can print money, should be owned by the government, but in USA it is owned by a private banker cartel.

    federal bank cannot just print out money whenever they feel like. money can be printed only if they hold moolah in the form of gold, silver,property etc.

    imagine you are running a small bank in a village. in kerala there are lot of private banks called BLADE banks.

    they will lend you money at high interests, and at the same time they will take a collateral from you in the form of gold jewellery. at the same time they give VERY high interest to someone who is willing to invest and make a money deposit.

    these bankers are beggars. once they have enough gold and enough money deposit from investors --they just vanish. see, they started off with nothing and made off with everything.

    you cannot loan money ,unless you have a reserve of your own money. or one fine day if too many people want to make sudden withdrawals , you wont have any money to pay them.

    if the country's law forced by corrupt bankers who choose their own US presidents , says banks need to keep only 10% of reserve what they loan out-- an INTELLIGENT man will immediately cry-

    THIS IS A SUPER SCAM!

    libyan president did NOT want the r central bank-- and wanted to start his won currency, with gold as standards ,and he was killed,

    next is syria--the iran-- then north korea--the cuba.

    in USA which ever president acted funny with the bankers they either got assassinated or got thrown out.

    the rest of the world including india has been compromised, and we have the r's central bank.

    capt ajit vadakayil
    ..

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This is a very complicated subject and unless you are an economist with a flair for macroeconomics and international finance you will not be able to do justice to it in a full-fledged debate. I am a computer science guy by profession so I don't think I am up to tackling this subject either.

From what I noticed, you and that ibnbatuta guy (who, by the way, misspelled Ibn Battuta's name) have an unhealthy obsession with the United States and are always seen wearing a tin foil hat when discussing anything related to US so it makes it all the more difficult for any sane debator to indulge in a conversation with you guys on any topic related to US, let alone complicated subjects such as these.

Treasuries, as you know, are debt obligations of a government backed by the credit and taxing power of a country. In US, we have T-bills, Treasury notes and Treasury bonds depending upon maturity (1 year, 10 year, 10+ years)

If ever there is a risk free instrument, it is these Treasuries.

All US currency that is in circulation is backed by US treasuries. They are the collateral for the federal reserve notes.

Out of the total US debt of 18 trillion or so, foreigners (China, Japan etc) hold 6 trillion of these T-bills, notes and bonds. You can do the simple math to get a percentage figure. But it doesn't mean US doesn't have a claim on foreign assets. For every dollar of foreign claims on US, there supposedly is a 89 cents of US claim on those foreign assets.

In any case, debt is not the be-all and end-all of an economy. What matters is the debt-to-GDP ratio. As a simple example, if I have a debt of 100k and I make 100k every year, I am in a pretty good shape to meet all my debt obligations.And if my income is growing year over year, all the better.

So what exactly is your "nutcase" debate about?


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