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Posted: 10 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: -sylph-

Zain is as much a victim as Aliya in this track.

For no mistake if his , he was put to jail beaten to pulp, humiliated, heard his mothers screams , she was beaten badly too, which son would bear all these, and Usman left his life due to trauma, indirectly shabhana and ghulam have been as much a reason for this as much as nafisa is, aliya also knows her parents fault her, how can one expect him to still be rationale after going through so much and loosing such precious person in his life..

I totally feel for zain and aliya, if aliya is being punished for no mistake of hers, then wasnt zain punished for no mistake of his as well? what was zain's mistake in all that he went through ? or doesn zain 's pain and suffering matter at all?

As of now im so sympathetic towards zain more, cause in just a span of few hours his life toppled, the domestic violence case on him even after loving aliya with all his heart and standing by her on so many occasions, his mom getting beaten up, his dad's demise to the trauma.. how is that guy even supposed to be rational after so much of happenings..
Can shabhana or Ghulam give zain back those few hours where in he had to go through so much?? They never can!

Aliya's parents and Nafeesa need to get a royal pay back for what they done, aliyas parents cannot go Scot free after being responsible in splitting this relation.. suraiys's pay back time will come too.. But for now shabhana, ghulam, nafeesa need to pay for there actions.





I completely agree!! I want Aaliya to be mad at her parents! Whether they filed the complaint or not, whether their intention was right or not...they shouldn't have taken Aaliya's signature in the first place! They totally fell for Nafeesa's words...that very Nafeesa who used to join in with Shazia and Suraiya before and would insult them. But no they forgot all of that because of Nafeesa's sob story and because she is Rizwan's sister..their future in-law.

I admit that any parent would be worried after seeing Zain in that behaviour when he was drunk..but how could you have so little faith in him? how could they forget he is the same zain who had stood up against Suri when Aayat and Shalam were being insulted due to that rocky fiasco?

I do not want Shalam to be easily forgiven. And Nafeesa, I want Fahad to divorce her..maybe then she'll know exactly what she has done to Zaya!!😑
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Posted: 10 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: .Mandy.


@Bold, exactly, what is Zain's fault in all this? What did he do to deserve such a punishment? Zain is a victim in all of this just like Aaliya, he is reacting like any human being in his position would.

See that is why I am disgusted with Shabana, Ghulam and Nafeesa because despite what has happened none have showed an ounce of guilt. There is Nafeesa pretending to show care towards Suraiya's pain and then there are Aaliya's parents who have yet to accept their role in all of this. I really want to see all three get what is coming to them, Suraiya will get hers but these three are the ones that inflicted the most damage.

Exactly Mandy, i refuse to buy that zain deserved this punishment, he did nothing to deserve what ever happened and whatever is happening to him.. Aliya and Zain both are as much victims here.
Like suraiya said today, she was robbed off the time to spend her last moments and be her husband, same way zain was robbed off being there with his dad .. Its debatable, had this DV case nt happened would the trauma happen on Usman and would he demise.
Zain lost his world by loosing Usman, coz Usman meant the world to him.. he is devoid of any emotions now, like he said my family paid the price.

I dont see an ounce of remorse or guilt in shabhana and ghulam, they still try to justify there acts, thats pissing me off, dint shabhana think once on how this will affect Usman?? like zain said in jail, that man sitting in wheel chair ,dint they think of this would affect him. Im amazed at there nonchalant attitude and guts.. They need to understand there folly and role in breaking zain, thereby breaking aliya and thus zaya..

Suraiya tried tried and failed in breaking them, shabhana,ghulam, nafessa did it in one go..
They all need to have a major Karma bite on them.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: -Saheba-


I completely agree!! I want Aaliya to be mad at her parents! Whether they filed the complaint or now, whether their intention was right or not...they shouldn't have taken Aaliya's signature in the first place! They totally fell for Nafeesa's words...that very Nafeesa who used to join in with Shazia and Suraiya before and would insult them. But no they forgot all of that because of Nafeesa's sob story and because she is Rizwan's sister..their future in-law.

I admit that any parent would be worried after seeing Zain in that behaviour when he was drunk..but how could you have so little faith in him? how could they forget he is the same zain who had stood up against Suri when Aayat and Shalam were being insulted due to that rocky fiasco?

I do not want Shalam to be easily forgiven. And Nafeesa, I want Fahad to divorce her..maybe then she'll know exactly what she has done to Zaya!!😑



I want Aaliya to be mad at her parents too but right now it looks unlikely given the current situation. Aaliya will lean on the same people who caused her world to come crashing down on her.

Her parents should have never listened to Nafeesa over their own child, they saw for themselves how much Zain and Aaliya loved each other but no that was not enough they had to listen to others. Never did I expect that it would be others instead of Suraiya who inflicted the most damage to ZaYa's relationship.

Nafeesa has to get a taste of what she put Zain and Aaliya through. I can see Suraiya standing by her words and throwing Nafeesa out for good and Fahad will not be able to support her nor will he think of doing so because it pained him to see his mother and brother in jail. Nafeesa will be left alone.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@saheba: Not just standing up for ayat and them, but zain has rather done things to them like a son does. How many son in laws do the stuff zain has done??
He risked his life for ayat and saved her frm escort business, he gave his years salary to shabhana and ghulam so that they could live happily, he has stood against suraiya and defended them in ayats case, he again risked the life i search of aliya in that riots , they hv seen zain's love for aliya and there family, he helped zubeir bail out and stood by truth and against his mom, he believed aliys in all zubeir accusations and stood against suraiya then, these are things shabhana knows well. without her knowledge he has stood by aliya many a times.. One time they see him in drunken state acting that way, and not supporting her specially when she was already warned not to give meds before and they fine a case against him??

So much for calling him a Beta??

There is no justification for what shabhana and ghulam have done to zain, it is they who took the sign, just like how suraiys can never be justified for acts with aliya same way shalam can never be justified for what they did to zain..

Haiders and Abdullahs all need to have there pay back time for putting through zaya so much😑
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Posted: 10 years ago
#25
Moral of the story is ZaYa both do not deserve this. Families constant conspiracies, they were bound to get caught sooner or later
In order for everything to get solved Nafeesa needs to be the first one revealed.

So far nothing is going to stop Zain from signing the papers therefore i think either Rehan himself or Rizwan might tell Rehan the truth and Rehan will tell Zain.

Ghulam and Shabana once ZAin knows the truth Aliyah will have someone so they should be cut off.
I am very impatiently waiting for when Zain finds out about Suraiya
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Posted: 10 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: -sylph-

Exactly Mandy, i refuse to buy that zain deserved this punishment, he did nothing to deserve what ever happened and whatever is happening to him.. Aliya and Zain both are as much victims here.

Like suraiya said today, she was robbed off the time to spend her last moments and be her husband, same way zain was robbed off being there with his dad .. Its debatable, had this DV case nt happened would the trauma happen on Usman and would he demise.
Zain lost his world by loosing Usman, coz Usman meant the world to him.. he is devoid of any emotions now, like he said my family paid the price.

I dont see an ounce of remorse or guilt in shabhana and ghulam, they still try to justify there acts, thats pissing me off, dint shabhana think once on how this will affect Usman?? like zain said in jail, that man sitting in wheel chair ,dint they think of this would affect him. Im amazed at there nonchalant attitude and guts.. They need to understand there folly and role in breaking zain, thereby breaking aliya and thus zaya..

Suraiya tried tried and failed in breaking them, shabhana,ghulam, nafessa did it in one go..
They all need to have a major Karma bite on them.



Zain did nothing to deserve this, like you said Zain and Aaliya are both victims here. Neither are wrong from where they stand and that is what should be understood. Its not about whose pain is greater here, its about two people who are the victims of their families evil plotting and now they've lost more than they could ever imagine.

Agreed, its debatable about what would have been of Usman had this not all happened but fact remains he is no more and Zain's world has come crashing down. Zain is shutting down and entering a dark place.

Shabana and Ghulam just amaze me by how oblivious they can be to their role here, to see the damage they've done. How could they ever think so low of Zain who did so much for them? I never expected them to go this far.

Exactly, no matter what Suraiya did she could never break them apart but Nafeesa, Shabana and Ghulam accomplished what seemed impossible! I can see Nafeesa getting what is coming her way since suspicion is already on about someone other than Aaliya filing that complaint but what about Shabana and Ghulam? It seems the only way they will realize is if Aaliya breaks all ties with them, but will that ever happen? I really want to see all three paying for the hell they've unleashed in Zain and Aaliya's lives.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Saheba.. totally understand you .. but see you are talking to people who will have their biases.. some will react strongly and some wont.. I dont get into all of this anymore because last time when aliyah was bashed left and right .. i had it with this forum.. so now i just take out my popcorn and watch the show.. in fact if you go on twitter.. both Zaya are being bashed not just Zain ROFLLL

Coming to who is right or wrong with ZaYa ... like I said both were used .. everything they did was in their character...both lost someone special to them.. just because usmaan is Zain's father and the mamu of aliyah doesnt make her pain any less.. in fact Aliyah's entry happened where she went to dargah to pray for her mamu and even his last words were aliyah so this shows you that only blood relations dont matter.. but others do too..

Zain had one jhatke after the other... he isnt in a place to think logically .. so as you see both are reacting according to their characters and role

When i say i feel bad for aliyah more.. its because that time cant come back when she could see her mamu one last time.. thats the only thing that hurts me the most is she cant see him...

Divorce am sure will be reversed.. so am not worried about that... So this is where I come from... other than that ...Both are in pain and they lost a spouse and a fatherly figure...

As far as Aliyah giving it to Shalam I think she did .. but now she doesnt have anyone with her... so its obvious that she is looking for a shoulder to cry on...
Edited by -Gaganjot- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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My take

its not Zain's fault at all

after the zillat his family got , after the terrible torture he got in the cell and after his father dies , it is laughable to even think of love and how could he etc etc .

Fact is

his father died coz of the trauma , he could not handle it in that delicate state

the signatures on the papers were indeed Aliya's and she had no answer as to how they got there

look at it from a husband's pov

r we saying that a man , if his father dies , if he is beaten in a cell , if he faces tremendous negative press AND after it is confirmed that the signatures on the complaint r indeed of his wife should still go on 'loving' eternally

where does this kind of love exist , does it in any part of the world , r we seeing a fantasy fairy tale

he did not turn his face away even when she supported the woman who set about to trap HIM

he did not even get that disgusted when she gave his dad meds without his permission , i would be hopping mad if my spouse interferes like this with my father's treatment .

But most of all

i felt bad for Zain when he was not even allowed to grieve in peace at the crematorium where he was burying his dad .

He could not even bury his dad in peace .

I am so sorry to say this but Aliya had no business going there and making a tamasha at that particular time ...as a spouse she should have realised that he had been through tooo much and needed at least this last bye bye to his dad in sukoon , peace

It was not a time to make why is aurat not allowed in crematorium is she not insaan issue and if u wanted to bid Mamu good bye , do it at home uncaring for Suraiyya or Zain . Why make such a spectacle publicly .

Just like the case brought publicity , this crematorium tamasha too brought publicity . The Alis r constantly bringing bad publicity to the Abdullahs , fact .

Fahaad had expicitly and truthfully told Ghulam to not be part of the funeral procession which was pretty appropriate .

Then what was the point in following them there ????

It was imposing on their privacy . As for the grief they claimed to have , frankly they had no face and had lost the right to any such claims .

Why was Shabana crying so much , she was going to complain and do EXACTLY this to her brother , the sick man , in that awfully sick state requested her not to do it

and why was Nafeesa crying crocodile tears , it was her deed that brought about the death of a noble soul who was seriously sick .

I disliked their tears the most .

I do feel sorry for Aaliya , i really do . But Zain is so not at fault .




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Posted: 10 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: -Gaganjot-

Saheba.. totally understand you .. but see you are talking to people who will have their biases.. some will react strongly and some wont.. I dont get into all of this anymore because last time when aliyah was bashed left and right .. i had it with this forum.. so now i just take out my popcorn and watch the show.. in fact if you go on twitter.. both Zaya are being bashed not just Zain ROFLLL

LOL I've stayed away from Twitter today because I knew ZaYa would be bashed non stop
, smart move to just stand back and watch it all πŸ˜†

Coming to who is right or wrong with ZaYa ... like I said both were used .. everything they did was in their character...both lost someone special to them.. just because usmaan is Zain's father and the mamu of aliyah doesnt make her pain any less.. in fact Aliyah's entry happened where she went to dargah to pray for her mamu and even his last words were aliyah so this shows you that only blood relations dont matter.. but others do too..

Zain had one jhatke after the other... he isnt in a place to think logically .. so as you see both are reacting according to their characters and role

Exactly Gagan, this is not about two characters being ruined infact if anything they are staying true to who they are

When i say i feel bad for aliyah more.. its because that time cant come back when she could see her mamu one last time.. thats the only thing that hurts me the most is she cant see him...

Divorce am sure will be reversed.. so am not worried about that... So this is where I come from... other than that ...Both are in pain and they lost a spouse and a fatherly figure...

As far as Aliyah giving it to Shalam I think she did .. but now she doesnt have anyone with her... so its obvious that she is looking for a shoulder to cry on...

That's how I see it too, of course I would love nothing more than for her to cut ties with her parents but it is not that easy especially given the circumstances. Aaliya is alone, she needs someone she can turn to and be her support through this. Its just sad that her parents fail to see how much they've hurt their daughter.

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Posted: 10 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: .Mandy.



LOL I've stayed away from Twitter today because I knew ZaYa would be bashed non stop
, smart move to just stand back and watch it all πŸ˜†

yup one day its Zain and the other day its aliyah πŸ˜† I learned that pretty quickly last time..

Exactly Gagan, this is not about two characters being ruined infact if anything they are staying true to who they are

Bingo... and not to mention everyone reacts differently ... i think the way their characters are written that is how they took the situation..

That's how I see it too, of course I would love nothing more than for her to cut ties with her parents but it is not that easy especially given the circumstances. Aaliya is alone, she needs someone she can turn to and be her support through this. Its just sad that her parents fail to see how much they've hurt their daughter.

She is alone and the sad part is that her own parents have been the cause of all this... she is paying for the deeds of her parents.. which is a shame.. lalath hai Shalam per


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