In the aftermath of the war there were lessons for everybody! - Page 2

Mansi,

Negativity for me is like Bermuda Triangle.You get pulled fast and loose yourself soon.

Radhika, that's more gems from you. Thanks for liking the parts of my post you liked and for adding your views that I love to read.

And yes, what do we do with this plethora of surangs we now have ... I won't be surprised if Jalal decides to change it all to a network of underground railways, since nothing of value is emerging from these surangs!

That's a really good question!👏👏👏

Ya, please use the music video you have, coz if I have to sing the background score for my posts, no one will come anywhere near my posts!😆😆😆😆😆😆

Now I have some doubts

1)Why was Mahac never shown angry with Mirza Hakim not to be at her side.Its but obvious as a mother to expect him to be with her.MH seems to be trend setter with Mughals then, to go against the parents openly.Still she being cool with MH ,for me something is fishy.

2)MH was in Kabul all these years,remember his entry and Nigar was also there then wasn't he aware of her.If he was atleast he would have once told to Jalal about this one more step sister ,about whom Jalal wasn't aware of.

3)The news of Munim's son dead hasn't arrived yet .When a Nigar goes in a day or two to Kabul and comes back, why this news is taking time.

4)I had seen a pic of tejwant and TM at the battlefield then we didn't see him all these days of war.

But if war is not over then what is remaining both AM and Shenu fled.And according to Abhay's thread Mahac won't come face to face with Jallu for war.Because he said Munim goes to Kabul to fight.

Originally posted by: skanda12

Friends, I thought we had another supremely beautiful episode yesterday. It was all about the aftermath of the war. Those who heinously started the war fled with their lives, alas, but those who were left wounded but standing learnt many key lessons in their lives about what was important and close to them. The loyal ones reinforced their steadfastness, the miserable wiped their tears and bore their wounds as best as they could, and the lovers found each other again as greater people than when they had left each other.

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Everybody had something to learn from. They must have seen new shades of all the people they know!

I could not but help admire the way the camera yesterday followed the fate of everyone involved and showed us how their fate was sealed as the war came to a close. Mali fled thrice after fierce skirmishes with Jodha, Mansingh and Todarmal. Nigar fled after realising that her own side had been overwhelmed and her hopes were burning to ashes like the battlefield outside the harem. Jalal found that days of torture had not even dented his ferocity and he emerged a wounded but supremely empowered lion. He also realised that in his absence Team Jalal was a fantastic fighting force.

I too loved the camera direction yesterday. Mali is such a coward..I so want Jalal to punch the day lights out of him. To be honest, even I was a bit miffed that everyone showed their brilliance but Jalal just punched one soldier down. Of course, I did see his brilliance in the new love he discovered in his family. But I am still clinging to the hopes that the war is not over and he can still showcase his brilliance. The was isn't over until Mali, MC and Nigar are captured isn't it?

Mansingh grew up before Jalal's eyes from a young boy into an incredibly reliable and trustworthy sipahi of the highest calibre. Todarmal showed that despite his years he could hold his own in a fight, and that tenderness was always in him no matter what other physical powers were leaving his body with age. Atga was the rock-solid man he had always been and more so now that he had done his bit in the war with aplomb, never looking for praise.

Ah! Mansingh finally turns up! And Atgah was a saviour. I don't think the harem women could have fought much longer if he hadn't shown up.

Raja Bharmal had turned up for Jalal like his own father would have, and his concern for his "son" was obvious. His sons too were there for their "brother Jalal". Hamida learnt that her "other son" Hakim needed a mother more than Jalal did - and she was there for him. Jalal saw that he had a brother left with him at least even if the sister he wanted - Nigar - was not what he thought she would be.

Through this war, Jalal sees that his Hindu relatives and subjects are far more loyal to him than his own kin like Mali and MC. This belief will get rock solid when he unfurls the rues of Maham and Adham. They were the cause of this war and they have to be caught.

Ruqaiaya found herself chastened by the war and with her eyes newly opened to the truths of this world, she eschewed her own audha to place the crown of praise on Jodha's head in front of all, even leading the group in saluting Jodha. Adham learnt that he couldn't shift allegiances even if he wanted to unless fate was on his side. And Maham realised she was no closer to Jalal after the war than she was before it.

I saluted Ruq yesterday( something which. I never ever do!). But if she bounces back, I won't hold back my tongue! Mahal taught that she would get a few brownie points from Jalal ..but she was sidelined as if she didn't even matter to him! 😆

And in the midst of all this Jodha carried inside her a baby that she had not yet told Jalal about - but yet some premonition still made him say to her in praise "The next Shahenshah of this Sultanate will be so proud that you are his mother." She had learnt that even if she were ever to be separated from Jalal again, their babies would always keep them connected.

Aww! I just loved the way she caressed her tummy and the conversation between them was beautiful. I loved it. But I brill want Jalal to finish Mali for what he did to his harem and his people.

A lot can be asked about why the scriptwriters chose to so glorify Jodha that even Jalal bowed his head and saluted her in the precap, while he erroneously played himself into enemy hands and rendered himself unavailable when the most bitter parts of the battle were being fought by others. I personally think that by showing Jalal as captured and therefore diminished in his capacity to do much in this war, the Creatives eventually gave us a very good glimpse of not just Jodha but all the people surrounding Jalal and their sterling capabilities.

I was asking this question myself! But I still hope that the war isn't over and Jalal can now actually 'do ' something. I just don't want this war over. I want this war to be remembered after both of them.

Doubtless there will be many wars in a King's life and in the next one we may see an "all-out Jalal campaign" of a much higher order than we have seen in this war, for Jalal is head and shoulders above everyone else as a warrior and strategist. But had Jalal steered this current war for the large part and done all the heroics himself, we would never have known the true talents, mettle and temperaments of the people in his nearest circle. By keeping Jalal away from the battle, and by showing us the myriad cameos of all the other warriors in his establishment, including Jodha, we were exposed to Team Jalal and its multifaceted talents - and that is something unique to this particular war.

I now see clearly why the cvs have chosen to do this. But at times I do feel they have stopped brainstorming and are just relying on their success to catch them in case of a fall. I mean, the TM track was so senseless! No matter how successful this show becomes, I always want the cvs to be working as if they are going to come in last place of they don't do it.

In yesterday's episode I thought it was therefore a brilliant touch for the Creatives to then free Jalal and make him walk up to his people one by one in the midst of all the devastation. He helped us see the roles of all his people through his own eyes as he saw them in the aftermath of the war and got to know what had happened in his absence ... who had done what, and who had changed for better and how. We got to see the episode yesterday for the most part with Jalal's eye-view. We thus saw how he felt about each one of his people, and we felt all his feelings as he took in each one's contribution.

I really loved that nice touch by the cvs. They way they showed the wounded soldiers and the way people were caring for them! After the war, I want a ceremonial send off to all the soldiers who lost their lives in war. I want to see their families receiving condolences and appreciation for their brave men..especially those on the harem front who fought even thought they knew that they would lose. Even those soldiers must be having their families waiting for them: Their parents, their wives( some of them could have been pregnant like our dear Jodha), and their little kids who draw inspiration from their fathers.

Why then did he single out Jodha for that salute in the precap? What had she done that his many other team members had not? I think he saw "leadership qualities" in Jodha for the first time, for she had taken a bunch of non-sipahis and converted them into a fighting force. She had also ensured that her team had the least casualties. The women were all wounded but still alive and standing, every one of them. Jodha had also stood at the turning point of the war and helped steer its course away from a potential loss to a win. Think what would have happened if she had not decided to fight Mali and his men. The harem would have been a walkover, and Jalal's incarceration would have ended with his assassination.

I want a loop closure for this salute scene. Somehow, I feel this will make their relationship more balanced. But I too salute Jodha for her brilliance in nailing that Mali was lying, having faith that her husband was still alive and was still out there, having faith in her fellow harem mates and inspiring them to channel their sorrow and anger to fighting their enemies.

It was when Jodha started putting up the fight that Mali became preoccupied at the harem, and was unable to return to Jalal fast ... and Nigar also followed Mali to the harem on not finding Mali coming back. The removal of Mali and Nigar from Jalal's vicinity helped Mansingh grab the advantage and free Jalal, and the rest is history. In sports it's common for the player who creates the turning point of the match to be named Man of the Match. What Jalal was doing in the precap was not that he was lessening the value of other contributors or reducing himself ... but he was simply picking and saluting Jodha as the Man of the Match.

Yes, Jodha's contribution didn't reduce him or make him look small. I just want him to also receive the similar kind of praise from his own people..and for that, I want him to manage the rest of the war by himself. Until now, he might not have known how Nigar's and MC's brains work. But know that he does, I want him to take calculated and logical steps to defeat them.

If I were to anticipate audience reactions to this whole war I think the question that would vex most minds is "Why did Jalal play into the hands of the enemy so foolishly? Why was he thus portrayed as dumb?" Many of us were actually hoping against hope that it would turn out that Jalal will be shown as having strategically handed himself over to the enemy as part of the execution of some masterstroke. But it now turns out that he didn't really have a plan and he had "followed his heart" as far as Nigar was concerned and thus found himself literally in "hot water". Okay, that may not be very palatable to an audience that craves the hero to be a winner all the time and never wants to see him as a "loser". But then it strikes me that we do even Jalal an injustice by wanting him to be more than he is all the time.

He won't get into hot water this time! He needs to rescue his begum from that big monster. By the way, now the question is how will Jodha get kidnapped? 😕

As a 22-year old boy thrust into the role of a Shahenshah he has shown moments of maturity above his age at times ... but he also has shown moments of immature haste quite often so far. Doubtless, his own lessons in the aftermath of this war will be that he should value his "dil", yes - but at the same time he should never again let his "dil" put him foolishly in jeopardy. If he is in jeopardy, so is his whole kingdom and his whole inherited legacy that he wishes to pass on to the next generation.

True!

Everybody grew from this war, including Jodha, Jalal, the people around them - and I myself too.

I am now chastened by this war experience myself, and hereafter prepared to see Jalal as an "evolving and maturing" man rather than an "already matured and complete" man, if that is what the Creatives want to tell us. In hindsight, my own lessons from this war are to cut Jalal some slack and not boil myself if he isn't the ever-winning hero all the time. Also I am glad that yesterday I saw the whole match replay through his eyes, and if he adjudged Jodha to be the Man of the Match for this war, I do not resent that or think of it as his "bowing and scraping to her" - for, to be truthful, she did turn the match around at the tipping point, and if he is honest about it, why think of him as reducing himself?

He is not bowing and scraping to her. He is acknowledging her talents and her loyalty to the Sultanate. I want Jalal and Jodha to evolve together. 😃

I think I have learnt that we have to look at our heroes and heroines with compassion. I should not be expecting the hero to be faultless and I should not resent the heroine for playing a good leadership hand in the absence of the hero from the spot of action. It is no wonder that in history it is said that Akbar always took Jodha on all wars after he had seen her leadership and fighting qualities. He learnt more about her, she learnt more about him, and if I am not mistaken, maybe this whole story is not just about their love, it's also about the continuous journey of learning in the life of a young king and his young queen on their way to becoming great.

Aww!

Now that I've understood how to temper my own expectations better, I am a happier person. What about all of you? Has this war changed you too?