Was Rishi Kindama's curse fair?

Do you guys think Rishi Kindama's curse to Pandu was fair? Kshatriyas hunt, it's in their nature and it's not against Dharma for them. Pandu did not kill Kindama and his wife in their human form. For some bizarre reason, they took the form of deer. 😕 How was he to know that the deer he was hunting was human?

What do you guys think?

Agree it wasn't his fault , he was mistaken. But Kindam cursed him impulsively, out of sudden shock. Bcoz he and his wife were attacked. His emotions overpowered him and he didn't have any time to analyse what was right what was wrong.

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i think neither pandu was at his fault here..nor Kindam was because pandu doesn't know that Kindam and his wife were humans and kindam cursed pandu in a impulsively mode so i think none of them were at there fault ...

Originally posted by: shivpriya

Agree it wasn't his fault , he was mistaken. But Kindam cursed him impulsively, out of sudden shock. Bcoz he and his wife were attacked. His emotions overpowered him and he didn't have any time to analyse what was right what was wrong.

his wife had died and he was dying and was in extreme shock and pain so out of this shock he reacted and gave his shrap

but what was the fun of killing two innocnet beautiful animals who were enjoying themselves he had no right to interfere or take someone else's lives 😡

It has always been like that...whether it is Dasharatha or Pandu...anyone who shoots by hearing the sound is always cursed.

@Good question, Janaki. But then whether in our day-to-day life or in the epic, we could say any number of actions are unfair. The rishi did something just out of his impulse. But Pandu could have been more careful in hunting. The kings those days were expected to do hunting wild animals since they were young because courage has to be fostered in them. Definitely they were expected to hunt but they were supposed to hunt deadly animals like lion, tiger or bear without being scared by those animals. How does it help hunting a soft animal like deer that also two deer which are mating and having pleasure? Interrupting the pleasure of others is no good.

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The main reason here was that he hunted an animals mating , who were in pairs leading to extreme pain for the other. This is wrong. Even in ramayana the hunter got cursed for killing one of a pair of swans even when it was his livelihood!! Here pandu is simply hunting for his pleasure , so the rishi gives him such a curse whence he will learn to discipline himself!!
By the way he did not hunt by the sound, he saw the deer mating and killed it. That is unacceptable.

One day Pandu, while out a-hunting, saw a deer covering its mate. That was
really a Rishi in the form of a deer. Seeing the deer in that attitude, he killed it with his arrows, before its
desire was gratified. Pierced with the king's arrow, the deer quickly changed its form and became a
Rishi, and said unto Pandu, 'O Pandu, thou art virtuous and acquainted also with the pleasure derived
from the gratification of one's desire. My desire unsatisfied, thou hast slain me! Therefore, thou also,
when so engaged and before thou art gratified, shalt die!' Pandu, hearing this curse, became pale, and
from that time would not go in unto his wives. And he told them these words, 'Through my own fault, I
have been cursed! But I have heard that for
the childless there are no regions hereafter.


Rishi Kindam took the form of deer because in human form his modesty prevented him to perform the act so as a deer he didnt have such inhibition.

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

Do you guys think Rishi Kindama's curse to Pandu was fair? Kshatriyas hunt, it's in their nature and it's not against Dharma for them. Pandu did not kill Kindama and his wife in their human form. For some bizarre reason, they took the form of deer. 😕 How was he to know that the deer he was hunting was human?

What do you guys think?

Good question. Pandu wasnt doing anything unexpected of a kshatriya. Hunting was a common sport those days. It is not clear if he was h unting merely for fun or for food. Deer could have been hunted for food. Even if not for food and as a sport a king is expected to hone his skills and it wouoldnt be sen as wrong if he hunts for sport.

Originally posted by: bhas1066

hi
The main reason here was that he hunted an animals mating , who were in pairs leading to extreme pain for the other. This is wrong. Even in ramayana the hunter got cursed for killing one of a pair of swans even when it was his livelihood!! Here pandu is simply hunting for his pleasure , so the rishi gives him such a curse whence he will learn to discipline himself!!
By the way he did not hunt by the sound, he saw the deer mating and killed it. That is unacceptable.

One day Pandu, while out a-hunting, saw a deer covering its mate. That was
really a Rishi in the form of a deer. Seeing the deer in that attitude, he killed it with his arrows, before its
desire was gratified. Pierced with the king's arrow, the deer quickly changed its form and became a
Rishi, and said unto Pandu, 'O Pandu, thou art virtuous and acquainted also with the pleasure derived
from the gratification of one's desire. My desire unsatisfied, thou hast slain me! Therefore, thou also,
when so engaged and before thou art gratified, shalt die!' Pandu, hearing this curse, became pale, and
from that time would not go in unto his wives. And he told them these words, 'Through my own fault, I
have been cursed! But I have heard that for
the childless there are no regions hereafter.


Rishi Kindam took the form of deer because in human form his modesty prevented him to perform the act so as a deer he didnt have such inhibition.

This is news to me! Did he turn his wife also into a deer? Or perhaps it was a real deer and not his wife as I am not aware of any custom where it would be immodest to have the act with the wife.

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The rishi was not married.

I am a Muni of the name of Kindama, possessed of ascetic merit, because my feelings of modesty did not permit me to indulge in such an act in human society. In the form of a deer I rove in the deep woods in the company of other deer.