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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: charizard

wow look at this bheeshma

he had no problem in kidnapping AAA. he had no problem in indirectly forcing gandhari to marry the blind dhrit. then why he had problem if gandhari was a widow first ?

if gandhari was a widow then even dhrit was blind. fair deal isnt it ?

why is it that the groom can have any defects but the bride should always be perfect for him ?
bheeshma and his false ego is the root cause of all the problems.

devi ganga gives life to everyone and washes their sins. then how can her own son be like this ?


I differ here..Bhishma did not kidnapped AA (or AAA), coz he had gone to attend swayamvar and asked for their hand for Vichitravirya...where Amba should not participate if she already had made a choice, its unfair on part of others...he left her free so he definitely not kidnapped Amba...now about Ambika and Ambalika...they accepted the marriage...as they had no isuues

if Bheema wanted to kidnapped AAA...he need not attend swayamvar...right
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rasyafan



mahabharat is all about ego

Right from Shantanu to Abhimanyu to his son parikshit to his son Janmejay

everyone took every decsion because of their egos whether male or female
the only person who had no ego was Vidhur and that is why he lead his life and took decisions based on his neetis AKA Vidhur neeti but alas everyone's ego's would not accept those neetis that lead to the war of the mahabharat


MB is about all types of human emotions (ego is one of them but not the only) and limitations of human life and...i dont see any ego with Krishna, Kunti, Vrishasena, Ghatotkacha, satyaki..at least this many I can think of now
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: charizard

well he didnt ask for their hand at all.
he went there in a fit of rage and defeated everyone over there and caused havoc over there.

amba was brave enough to retaliate back. seeing what havoc bheeshma caused their and the fate of their elder sister , AA just silently kept quiet and were too docile. they were scared that the same fate may happen to them and if they also dont agree to marry vichi then bheeshma might take revenge from their dad. to avoid all that they silently tolerated all the injustices of bheeshma and the so called rajmata🀒


why did the brave amba attend swaymvar if she loved and wanted to marry Shalva...❓...and may be Bheesma wanted to kidnap AA...in front of their father...and then get them married to his brother ceremoneously ...supported AA children throughout his lifetime...even gave up his life ..thats why he chose the way to attend swayamvar and ask everyone to compete...and then kidnap them ...very unfair
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: charizard

wow look at this bheeshma

he had no problem in kidnapping AAA. he had no problem in indirectly forcing gandhari to marry the blind dhrit. then why he had problem if gandhari was a widow first ?

if gandhari was a widow then even dhrit was blind. fair deal isnt it ?

why is it that the groom can have any defects but the bride should always be perfect for him ?
bheeshma and his false ego is the root cause of all the problems.

devi ganga gives life to everyone and washes their sins. then how can her own son be like this ?




First and foremost, Bheesma didn't force, directly or indirectly to marry off Gandhari to Dhritarashtra.. He made a low key visit to GAndhar as per the epic and did not go with his army as depicted in this serial. The Gandhar family, out of their fear or greed, accepted the alliance.


Thirdly, that Shakuni and his family was highly mistreated by Bheesma or Duryodhan is part of the folklore. Nothing is written in Vedvyas Mahabharat - at least I am not aware of.

Thirdly, this Amba story was again twisted a lot in this serial-

Amba and Shalva were in a relationship and they should not have been part of the Swayambar as the mach was already fixed!! Anyways, when Amba was kidnapped by Bheesma she could not tell about her affair, but when she reached Hastinapur she told the truth. This whole retaliation in the Swayambar was made by CVs.

Vichitravirya, when learnt about her affair, refused to marry her and Amba was then returned to Prince Shalva. Prince Shalva refused to accept her as it was not the custom to touch a woman who has been won by someone else and he does not need any donation from the Kuru family.
So in a way, she was wronged by two men - Bheesma and Shalva but she chose to take revenge on Bheesma only as he created the situation.

Amba, asked Bheesma to marry her to give back her honor. Caught between breaking his vow and giving justice to Amba, Bheesma decided not to break his vow. Amba then went to different other rulers and sages to give punishment to Bheesma, but no one could help her. Finally she went to Bheesma's guru,Parashuram to get justice. Parashuram agreed that Amba has been wronged and asked Bheesma to meet him.
Ganga knew what is going to happen, so she asked Bheesma to marry Amba so that Parashuram doesn't fight with him and kill him. But Bheesma was ready to be killed than to be break his vow. He did not listen to Parashu when he was asked to marry Amba. So the sage asked him to fight.

But the catch was Bheesma had the boon of dying as per his wish. So the battle was inconclusive and Narada had to intervene to save the earth from this unending battle. Then Amba made the tapasya and got boon from Shiva that she would punish Bheesma in her next birth.
She was born as Shikandi in Drupad's family and Bheesma knew the real identity of Shikandi. Bheeesma revealed the entire incident to one of the Kauravas just few days before his death and then when on the 10th day, Shikandi appeared before him, he put down his weapons and got ready to be shot by Arjun.



Edited by doyelpakhi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: doyelpakhi




First and foremost, Bheesma didn't force, directly or indirectly to marry off Gandhari to Dhritarashtra.. He made a low key visit to GAndhar as per the epic and did not go with his army as depicted in this serial. The Gandhar family, out of their fear or greed, accepted the alliance.


Thirdly, that Shakuni and his family was highly mistreated by Bheesma or Duryodhan is part of the folklore. Nothing is written in Vedvyas Mahabharat - at least I am not aware of.

Thirdly, this Amba story was again twisted a lot in this serial-

Amba and Shalva were in a relationship and they should not have been part of the Swayambar as the mach was already fixed!! Anyways, when Amba was kidnapped by Bheesma she could not tell about her affair, but when she reached Hastinapur she told the truth. This whole retaliation in the Swayambar was made by CVs.

Vichitravirya, when learnt about her affair, refused to marry her and Amba was then returned to Prince Shalva. Prince Shalva refused to accept her as it was not the custom to touch a woman who has been won by someone else and he does not need any donation from the Kuru family.
So in a way, she was wronged by two men - Bheesma and Shalva but she chose to take revenge on Bheesma only as he created the situation.

Amba, asked Bheesma to marry her to give back her honor. Caught between breaking his vow and giving justice to Amba, Bheesma decided not to break his vow. Amba then went to different other rulers and sages to give punishment to Bheesma, but no one could help her. Finally she went to Bheesma's guru,Parashuram to get justice. Parashuram agreed that Amba has been wronged and asked Bheesma to meet him.
Ganga knew what is going to happen, so she asked Bheesma to marry Amba so that Parashuram doesn't fight with him and kill him. But Bheesma was ready to be killed than to be break his vow. He did not listen to Parashu when he was asked to marry Amba. So the sage asked him to fight.

But the catch was Bheesma had the boon of dying as per his wish. So the battle was inconclusive and Narada had to intervene to save the earth from this unending battle. Then Amba made the tapasya and got boon from Shiva that she would punish Bheesma in her next birth.
She was born as Shikandi in Drupad's family and Bheesma knew the real identity of Shikandi. Bheeesma revealed the entire incident to one of the Kauravas just few days before his death and then when on the 10th day, Shikandi appeared before him, he put down his weapons and got ready to be shot by Arjun.



πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ wow such braved we had who hid behind women to target their hunts πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†
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Posted: 11 years ago
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tfs..i never knew that😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rasyafan



πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ wow such braved we had who hid behind women to target their hunts πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†




πŸ˜• sorry don't get you! Whom are you saying "braveheart?" - Bhisma or Arjun. πŸ˜‰

What I meant was Bheesma put down his weapon before Shikandhi as he knew that Shikandi was a half-woman and was the reincarnation of Amba. He knew about Shikandi's identity even before start of the war. Since the Pandavas could not defeat Bheesma they took help of Shikandhi because Bheesma, as per the rules of war, would not attack a woman.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: doyelpakhi




πŸ˜• sorry don't get you! Whom are you saying "braveheart?" - Bhisma or Arjun. πŸ˜‰

What I meant was Bheesma put down his weapon before Shikandhi as he knew that Shikandi was a half-woman and was the reincarnation of Amba. He knew about Shikandi's identity even before start of the war. Since the Pandavas could not defeat Bheesma they took help of Shikandhi because Bheesma, as per the rules of war, would not attack a woman.




Sorry 😲 I forgot to write full word I meant such brave heores and yes obviously Arjun as he hid behind Shikhandi to kill Bheeshm as the later was unbeatable so this was the only way πŸ˜† but Krishn was on his side because of Dharm so I guess it is ok πŸ˜‰
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i read about it on google too.i hope they show this on the show.they are missing out on small details.
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Originally posted by: love_kash

i read about it on google too.i hope they show this on the show.they are missing out on small details.



yes they will have to becasue they just want to show the actual war of the Mahabharat that is why they are missing a lot of things and they are writing this story their Mahabharat is their figament of imagination they have just taken a few points from the Real Mahabharat and they are imitating the old Mahabharat but here everybody is acting pretty ferociously not at all like sadaachar manners especially dhritrashtra a spoil brat they are showing snobbish spoilt brat

The heroes and brave heroes and good mannered characters of Real Mahabharat has been turned into snobbish egocentric selfish spoilt brats illogical manner less ferocious characters their is no dignity or grace in them yes egos were in everybody in real all the characters of the Real Mahabharat but in this cheap Mahabharat they have ridiculed those charatcers sadly 😭 it's a great disapointment
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