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return_to_hades

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Posted: 11 years ago

#901

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

i think the inference one could then make is that you're talking about separate models- one to explain natural phenomena and another to explain human behavior. Sounds odd if we consider man as part of nature.

When it comes to human consciousness and behavior, we open a whole new Pandora's Box. No matter how hard we try, nothing can model human behavior.

That is why I feel a clearer understanding of who we are, what makes us tick, is a vital piece of this puzzle into understanding truth, God, whatever it is without we are seeking. And so far we have barely scratched the surface.

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return_to_hades

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Stunner

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Posted: 11 years ago

#902

Originally posted by: -Xaffron-
What's the score?

God - 10
Science - 10
Humans - 0
Vijay Bhatter - 100

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Roshan

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Posted: 11 years ago

#903

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

God - 10
Science - 10
Humans - 0
Vijay Bhatter - 100

😆

So you do believe in God to give Him His 10 points. 😆

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Freethinker112

@Freethinker112

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Posted: 11 years ago

#904

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

you asked two questions:

1. it is pure maths because it is. It has field equations and other such math-like properties. Do you see those equations floating around in space?

2. yes, the predictions from that math has been verified in many ways. If in fact you find someone who can disprove that, you should be sure to give them a nobel prize.

No offence, but I find all this talk of equations "floating" nonsense. Maths is a language we use for describing the reality around us. We use language for communication, to put things in words. Your question is similar to asking whether you see a white body in sky or do you see the word "Moon", four letters of English, floating in space. Of course it is the body, we use the word as a language to refer to the body. Similarly, we use the equations to refer to what we observe. I don't see what all the fuss is about. You suggesting we stop using languages to communicate because you don't "see" language?

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Freethinker112

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Posted: 11 years ago

#905

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

so it has no physical explanation, it is just a math construct. And that's what i have been saying.

So, you just make a sentence reply to all the explanation without any elaboration? I will say it again, we use maths as a language to explain what is already there. Space actually behaves as the equation implies. All this vacant thing you are seeing around is space. So, it is a physical thing which we are trying to explain.

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum
not really. moving in future means moving in time. How can you move in time? What would be your velocity in the time dimension? There is no such thing because you would get a number which is time divided by time, a dimensionless number whereas velocity should be a dimensioned number.

Are you not moving to future or are you stuck in past? That's us moving in time. And again, time coordinate is referred by ct whose dimension is length, which when divided by time will give you velocity. And you didn't answer my question. Why do you think time will behave as spatial dimension? Dimension just means a coordinate system, we are not referring time as the 4th dimension of space. It is a different dimension and has different rules.

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return_to_hades

@return_to_hades

Stunner

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Posted: 11 years ago

#906

Math:

l - l = H

8/2 = o

o + o = 8

c + c = o

c + c + c + c = 8

x/2 = v

l \ l = N

l + _ = T

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Freethinker112

@Freethinker112

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Posted: 11 years ago

#907

Originally posted by: Vintage.Wine

Freethinka ..😆

I concur with that ..BUT ...There is one point that you had promised to enlighten me over ...( after reading all the reference material ) A. What causes the beheaded bodies to move for long ..And keeping along that line ..I would also like to put another question to the consideration of the people here ..

B. You said that Brain is what keeps the Body ALIVE ..and ACTIVE ... So please tell me what keeps Amoeba ( A single cell structure without traces of any brains alive and kicking ? Err! moving i mean 😆 << Reminds me of someone .May be Myself 😆 << Kidding .. ..Not just the amoeba but even the Virus particles ...that sneak into the right T Cell with fascinating precision ..They are RNA structures ..And let's not resort to They are Not alive or Dead ..Cause there can't be an intermediate state for a already moving orgasm ..Or let's consider the bacteria .

So if we assume a program in their RNA / DNA structures is what causes the vitality ..Where does the vitality come from ? The program ? Nohohoho 😆 ..Its The SOUL ☺️ ..Yehahahahahaha ! ..The soul is the energy that keeps such brainless organism alive and moving ...NOT THE BRAIN << Point PROVEN 😈

I already told you, I am not a medical expert. I suggest you ask Angie this, as she seems experienced in medical field. But there will be a medical explanation.

I would suggest reading this.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_are_cells_alive

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Freethinker112

@Freethinker112

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Posted: 11 years ago

#908

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

There. Context. Things are so much better with context.

I've been living, breathing in this body for years now, but the question "Who am I" still confounds me. A human, an Indian, a South Indian, a student, an employee, an immigrant, a liberal, a democrat, a socialist, a geek, an avid reader, a movie goer...there are so many things that I am. But to piece together an ID that just clicks, makes sense and appeals to my psyche, seems impossible.

So if your science ever figures out "Who Am I", let me know, I've been searching ever since.

Many of the things reside in your brain. If you lose your memory, many of those things will be wiped out. But yeah, the consciousness will remain. The ability to think. And yes, I believe science will find about this one day. And if it happens in our life time, I will surely give you a heads up. 😉

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Freethinker112

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Posted: 11 years ago

#909

On the topic of color.

Again, it's nitpicking. What objectively exists is the wavelength of light. Now we humans have created some words and attached different wavelengths to them which we all agree on to call color. What we see is the output brain gives when it receives that particular wavelength. Differences in structure or some disease may make one see that differently. But that's the subjective experience, the wavelength is still the same. So, I don't see the need of the air of mysticism, it's not that big of a question. Not everyone hears the same too, doesn't change the fact that there were sound waves.

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Freethinker112

@Freethinker112

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Posted: 11 years ago

#910

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

Yes.

All things are in motion. Motion is described in terms of velocity and acceleration. Velocity involves direction and speed.

Direction would involve space, speed would involve time. So, we are in motion in space-time.

Space and time are interlinked by the speed of light.

Birdie is questioning the "physical reality" of space and time. To which I asked him to look at it all from motion point of view.

I have already replied to him multiple times. He is thinking the other way around, that we created equations and are now trying to create reality from that. No, we are trying to explain the reality using a language called maths. And I don't know why he likes to lump time and space in the same category. Time is not a spatial dimension and need not behave so.

I think the questions we should be asking is why does the Universe is such that it fits our mathematical models? And why is nature so lenient that it allows us to calculate things with good precision based on our incomplete theories with various assumptions?

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