If you believe in God, refute this! - Page 100

Originally posted by: Freethinker112

If that is the case, which might not be as Universe is currently accelerating, rather than being caught in the cycle, better question would be the origin of the "thing" caught in cycle. How did the "thing" caught in the cycle came to be.

we dont know if the thing caught in the cycle is separate from the cycle.

We know that energy can't be created or destroyed. So, how did all this energy came to be?

If we know the former then the question does not stand as it could only mean that energy always existed in some form or other.

Originally posted by: Vintage.Wine

Free ...
Aww ...Hahaha 😆 ..So you are playing safe here ...We can't discuss spirituality cause it has no scientific evidence ...We can't discuss the creation of the universe ...Cause no one knows about it ... My point is we are here to think FREELY 😆 ..Without confining our views to known knowledge ..Some Hypothesis must be put in place ...All hypothesis is imaginary till its proven eventually with experiments ..that doesn't mean we should refrain from having one .. You can't take both stance ..and be on the summit of both Everest and Lhotse at the same sloshed time 😆

Originally posted by: _Angie_

we dont know if the thing caught in the cycle is separate from the cycle.

Originally posted by: Freethinker112

Yes, but a hypothesis which has existed for so long should move forward now. 😆 We are free to discuss what could be, without evidence, but we can't say that it is the case.

Who said electron always existed? They can be created, by decay of a heavy particle, and they can be destroyed by annihilation with positron. I don't know if there is any way to find their age, I guess there isn't but I may be wrong.

^^^^^^ Excuse ME ...😆 Are ya on about the FREE Electrons in the nature ? 😆 ..I must elaborate a bit here before this debate starts to sound like a nuclear disaster .. 😆 ..All I had to say was ...ATOMS as I understand are created inside stars ..and then emitted everywhere in the Universe ...There are a few ATOM'S whose age can be found ...I was on about the ATOMS that existed at the time of the Big Bang ..namely Helium, Hydrogen ... No ATOM can be complete without electrons ..which in itself is the proof that Electrons existed even before the first ATOM at the time of big bang was created .. So if the age of Hydrogen / Helium ATOMs could be known ..We might get hold of the oldest ones that are present on the earth / trapped in it's atmosphere ..that age back to the time of Big Bang as it happened everywhere at the same time ...A study of such ATOMS might offer us with a clue of what happened at the time of Big Bang ..😆 ... Bang ...Bang .Bangs ... <<<My Head against the screen 😆

Vintu 😛

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Originally posted by: Freethinker112

^ Not sure if trolling or just uber excited? 😕

I think he is serious. He seems to be strongly opinionated with an equally strong way of expressing it.

Originally posted by: Vintage.Wine

^^^^^^ Excuse ME ...😆 Are ya on about the FREE Electrons in the nature ? 😆 ..I must elaborate a bit here before this debate starts to sound like a nuclear disaster .. 😆 ..All I had to say was ...ATOMS as I understand are created inside stars ..and then emitted everywhere in the Universe ...There are a few ATOM'S whose age can be found ...I was on about the ATOMS that existed at the time of the Big Bang ..namely Helium, Hydrogen ... No ATOM can be complete without electrons ..which in itself is the proof that Electrons existed even before the first ATOM at the time of big bang was created .. So if the age of Hydrogen / Helium ATOMs could be known ..We might get hold of the oldest ones that are present on the earth / trapped in it's atmosphere ..that age back to the time of Big Bang as it happened everywhere at the same time ...A study of such ATOMS might offer us with a clue of what happened at the time of Big Bang ..😆 ... Bang ...Bang .Bangs ... <<<My Head against the screen 😆

Originally posted by: bhinder.thind

People, chill your asses. To me, Faith is for lazy dumb people and the whole concept of God is based on one word called Faith. Faith does mean beliefs without evidences. Moreover, I can't take God's ego.. "Son, believe in me otherwise I will roast your ass in hell hahaha".. Just chill dude chill. Why its actually matter to god that everyone prays him ? Bow head and tits to him? Doesn't he suppose to be above this?but NO he is not. Btw who is real God? Christians? Buddhas? Hindu's? Or hardcore Muslim God? What if you people worshipping Hindu god and after death, comes to know you all been cheated. Hindu god actually is not the real God, real god is Muhammad haha then what aye?

Moreover, People need to get their facts in their ugly bundh about Atheism. Atheism is just simple Not Believe In Existance of Deity/God. Don't act asif it means having butt sex with demons.

I can see why faith can appear lazy. Rather than put an effort to search for answers, faith proposes one catch-all solution God. If you can explain something, good. If not there always is God. But that is a very broad and sweeping generalization to assume that all people of faith are lazy, ignorant or lack better understanding. Sometimes faith exists because despite everything we know, everything we seek to know, our knowledge is so miniscule in comparison to the entirety of the universe that you can't help but accept something higher that you may never know or understand.

I agree with your criticism of the definitions of God and the conflicts within religion. Personally, I have a huge problem with most religious dogma. But c'mon man here said atheism is butt sex with demons. You must be confusing atheism with cults of Bacchus. 😆

Originally posted by: bhinder.thind

People, chill your asses. To me, Faith is for lazy dumb people and the whole concept of God is based on one word called Faith. Faith does mean beliefs without evidences. Moreover, I can't take God's ego.. "Son, believe in me otherwise I will roast your ass in hell hahaha".. Just chill dude chill. Why its actually matter to god that everyone prays him ? Bow head and tits to him? Doesn't he suppose to be above this?but NO he is not. Btw who is real God? Christians? Buddhas? Hindu's? Or hardcore Muslim God? What if you people worshipping Hindu god and after death, comes to know you all been cheated. Hindu god actually is not the real God, real god is Muhammad haha then what aye?

Moreover, People need to get their facts in their ugly bundh about Atheism. Atheism is just simple Not Believe In Existance of Deity/God. Don't act asif it means having butt sex with demons.