The 9th avatar of Lord Vishnu???

Hi everybody!😊
This is my first topic in this forum (i am just a silent but ardent reader!) and i really hope that someone an give me answers here. This question's been nagging my head for years now but i havent got any satisfactory answers till now and am compelled to ask it here. According to the vedas the 4 yugas are in the proportion of 4:3:2:1 and so is the major 10 avatars of Lord Vishnu i.e. 4 in satya yuga (matsya, kurma , varaha and narasimha) ; 3 in treta yuga ( vamana, parashurama and rama) ; two in dwapar yuga (??) and 1 in kali yuga(upcoming kalki avatar). Now while i am clear on all other yugas, when it comes to dwapar yuga avatars i am very confused as different sources cite differently. Its Balaram and Krishna in Vishishtadvaita philosophy, while Krishna and Buddha in all others (advaita and smartas) and also Balarama and buddha ( in ISKON and bhagvata puran --- they consider Krishna as the source i.e Vishnu himself and not as seperate avatar!😕). Can someone here PLEASE clear my doubts as to who is the 8th and 9th avatar of Lord Vishnu? I will be very grateful.PLEASE!!!😭

(P.S: I should have probably posted this in Dwapar yuga Discussions thread but there is no current discussion active in that thread so was not sure if anyone will read it. hence posting as a separate topic. Kindly excuse if not correct!)

Originally posted by: bhas1066

According to the vedas the 4 yugas are in the proportion of 4:3:2:1 and so is the major 10 avatars of Lord Vishnu i.e. 4 in satya yuga (matsya, kurma , varaha and narasimha) ; 3 in treta yuga ( vamana, parashurama and rama) ; two in dwapar yuga (??) and 1 in kali yuga(upcoming kalki avatar). Now while i am clear on all other yugas, when it comes to dwapar yuga avatars i am very confused as different sources cite differently. Its Balaram and Krishna in Vishishtadvaita philosophy, while Krishna and Buddha in all others (advaita and smartas) and also Balarama and buddha ( in ISKON and bhagvata puran --- they consider Krishna as the source i.e Vishnu himself and not as seperate avatar!😕).

By the above, is Buddha then considered to have lived in the Dwapar Yuga?

Valid question!

@Vrish

Shivang

In Geeta also, Adhyay 2, Verses 42 to 45, Krishna has regarded Vedas to be speaking only the speech of fruits of deeds. Karmkaand and Yagnas teach Sakaam karm but Krishna preaches Arjun to be above them and to perform those same very deeds but without any desire & ego. Both Ram & Krishna did all their deeds as per their Kshatriya order but all those deeds were done with detached mind without the expectation of fruits just done to set the proper examples. Buddha may have negated those in absolute sense may be because he was born only to teach Karm Sanyas Yog or Aatma Sanyam Yog (Adhyay 5 & 6). But it's still strange because Krishna accepts all the ways to be going eventually to Supreme only. Anyway, even Lakshman criticized the deeds of Parshuram when Parshuram was also avatar of Lord Vishnu. Hari ki leela badi nyaari hai.

Were Buddha's own preaching one dimensional, passionate or rigid (which is hard to believe because he was undoubtedly a realized soul) or his followers interpreted to be so?

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

Valid question!

Even I have my doubts about this, but as per what my family believes, we neither believe Balram nor Buddha to be the 9th avatar. Krishna is the 8th avatar and after him, we believe Lord Venkateshwara (Balaji) to be the 9th avatar.

Since Buddha created a whole new religion which kind of goes against the teachings of Krishna and Rama, we do not believe Buddha is a part of Hinduism or Lord Vishnu at all. And Balram is an amsa of Seshnaag so he too is not a part of the Dashavataras.

Lord Venkateshwara!! it seems most likely but is there any proof or text stating it? i know the story told by my grandma that yashoda complained about Krishna not inviting her to any of his weddings so he took the form of Balaji and yashoda was reborn as vakula devi and srinivasa's mother who went to ask the hand of padmavati for marriage. so yes its quite possible . but PLEASE DONT GET ANGRY--- is there any proof??

Originally posted by: ShivangBuch

@Janaki

Yes. Buddhism concentrates on one specific way of religion I agree but how is it against the teaching of Krishna? In Geeta also, we have Karmsanyas yog and Aatmasanyam yog.