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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: monu1101


😲😲 So Goddess Sita performed Sati.. why dint i knew that?😲😲
Am sure your version of Ramayan must be an interesting read.. Please publish it online and also tell me how did Lord Rama die? You seem to have so muchh knowledge of hinduism that you can actually start preaching us hindus about it..
And wats are you talking about Sati and dowry system..
Do you even care to know that both Sati and Dowry are punishable crimes in the indian society.
Do you even know that in todays time wen Sati happens it is published in newspaper and the girls as wells as grooms family is punished for it under the law..
Sati was banned even before India gained independance..

And dowry system do you know that if a girl's family reports a case of dowry, whole of groom's family is sent to jail..Provisions are there and they are subject to use..

Your style of accusation is taking events from newspaper and labelling the entire community with it.. And wen somebody else will start raking events of your community you dismiss them as a isolated case.. Hypocrisy at its best hun.. Just a friendly suggestion dun gain knowledge by reading newspaper, newspaper only has content that in general is NOT allowed in society. In easier terms newspaper has content that should not happen in the society but has occured..thats why it makes for a news. specially the events u are talking abt.

Women are appeased in all the religious texts.. They are given the highest status in all religious books but the reality is quite different from those in books and that only women knows..

So friend try to respect others to gain respect in return.For me my religion is greatest which has given me everything and the same goes for you.

Topics like this is not allowed in IF . Here users are not allowed to abuse or accuse any religion or indulge into religious discussion by making fun of them.. Hope the mods take care of this..



dear this is big joke😆 i have seen many topic against islam on IF😡..here ppls say all wrong things about islam with out any knowldge..now u are so angry that he is shwing bad things about religion and u are defending now...but when some 1 post false thing about islam when i said thm that this is not in islam and i defend my religion then mod give my warning but if some one say bad about islam them mod dont give them warning the double standard😡 that is y i hate forums lik debte mension..where i find only anti islam and anti pakistan....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: a_jalpari

Don't take me wrong there.... Because i'm a very neutral person.. i say what i believe is right not to have a contrevorsey over it.

apo yeh b dekhti homgi k west main women sif figure ki waja sy ejtram ki jati hain..they sell their daughter wifes sister in the name of art and culture...
here about your covering question.

Why does Islam degrade women by keeping them behind the veil?

HIJAAB FOR WOMEN

The status of women in Islam is often the target of attacks in the secular media. The 'hijaab' or the Islamic dress is cited by many as an example of the 'subjugation' of women under Islamic law. Before we analyze the reasoning behind the religiously mandated 'hijaab', let us first study the status of women in societies before the advent of Islam

1. In the past women were degraded and used as objects of lust

The following examples from history amply illustrate the fact that the status of women in earlier civilizations was very low to the extent that they were denied basic human dignity:

a. Babylonian Civilization:

The women were degraded and were denied all rights under the Babylonian law. If a man murdered a woman, instead of him being punished, his wife was put to death.

c. Greek Civilization:

Greek Civilization is considered the most glorious of all ancient civilizations. Under this very 'glorious' system, women were deprived of all rights and were looked down upon. In Greek mythology, an 'imaginary woman' called 'Pandora' is the root cause of misfortune of human beings. The Greeks considered women to be subhuman and inferior to men. Though chastity of women was precious, and women were held in high esteem, the Greeks were later overwhelmed by ego and sexual perversions. Prostitution became a regular practice amongst all classes of Greek society.

d. Roman Civilization:

When Roman Civilization was at the zenith of its 'glory', a man even had the right to take the life of his wife. Prostitution and nudity were common amongst the Romans.

e. Egyptian Civilization:

The Egyptian considered women evil and as a sign of a devil.

f. Pre-Islamic Arabia:

Before Islam spread in Arabia, the Arabs looked down upon women and very often when a female child was born, she was buried alive.

2. Islam uplifted women and gave them equality and expects them to maintain their status.

Islam uplifted the status of women and granted them their just rights 1400 years ago. Islam expects women to maintain their status.

HIJAB FOR MEN

People usually only discuss 'hijaab' in the context of women. However, in the Glorious Qur'an, Allah (swt) first mentions 'hijaab' for men before 'hijaab' for the women. The Qur'an mentions in Surah Noor:

"Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do."

[Al-Qur'an 24:30]

The moment a man looks at a woman and if any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he should lower his gaze.

Hijaab for women

The next verse of Surah Noor, says:

"And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons..."

[Al-Qur'an 24:31]

3. Hijaab includes conduct and behaviour among other things

Complete 'hijaab', besides the six criteria of clothing, also includes the moral conduct, behaviour, attitude and intention of the individual. A person only fulfilling the criteria of 'hijaab' of the clothes is observing 'hijaab' in a limited sense. 'Hijaab' of the clothes should be accompanied by 'hijaab' of the eyes, 'hijaab' of the heart, 'hijaab' of thought and 'hijaab' of intention. It also includes the way a person walks, the way a person talks, the way he behaves, etc.

4. Hijaab prevents molestation

The reason why Hijaab is prescribed for women is mentioned in the Qur'an in the following verses of Surah Al-Ahzab:

"O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad); that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

[Al-Qur'an 33:59]

The Qur'an says that Hijaab has been prescribed for the women so that they are recognized as modest women and this will also prevent them from being molested.

5. Example of twin sisters

Suppose two sisters who are twins, and who are equally beautiful, walk down the street. One of them is attired in the Islamic hijaab i.e. the complete body is covered, except for the face and the hands up to the wrists. The other sister is wearing western clothes, a mini skirt or shorts. Just around the corner there is a hooligan or ruffian who is waiting for a catch, to tease a girl. Whom will he tease? The girl wearing the Islamic Hijaab or the girl wearing the skirt or the mini? Naturally he will tease the girl wearing the skirt or the mini. Such dresses are an indirect invitation to the opposite sex for teasing and molestation. The Qur'an rightly says that hijaab prevents women from being molested.

6. Capital punishment for the rapists

Under the Islamic shariah, a man convicted of having raped a woman, is given capital punishment. Many are astonished at this 'harsh' sentence. Some even say that Islam is a ruthless, barbaric religion! I have asked a simple question to hundreds of non-Muslim men. Suppose, God forbid, someone rapes your wife, your mother or your sister. You are made the judge and the rapist is brought in front of you. What punishment would you give him? All of them said they would put him to death. Some went to the extent of saying they would torture him to death. To them I ask, if someone rapes your wife or your mother you want to put him to death. But if the same crime is committed on somebody else's wife or daughter you say capital punishment is barbaric. Why should there be double standards?

7. Western society falsely claims to have uplifted women

Western talk of women's liberalization is nothing but a disguised form of exploitation of her body, degradation of her soul, and deprivation of her honour. Western society claims to have 'uplifted' women. On the contrary it has actually degraded them to the status of concubines, mistresses and society butterflies who are mere tools in the hands of pleasure seekers and sex marketers, hidden behind the colorful screen of 'art' and 'culture'.

8. USA has one of the highest rates of rape

United States of America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries of the world. It also has one of the highest rates of rape in any country in the world. According to a FBI report, in the year 1990, every day on an average 1756 cases of rape were committed in U.S.A alone. Later another report said that on an average everyday 1900 cases of rapes are committed in USA. The year was not mentioned. May be it was 1992 or 1993. May be the Americans got 'bolder' in the following years.

Consider a scenario where the Islamic hijaab is followed in America. Whenever a man looks at a woman and any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he lowers his gaze. Every woman wears the Islamic hijaab, that is the complete body is covered except the face and the hands upto the wrist. After this if any man commits rape he is given capital punishment. I ask you, in such a scenario, will the rate of rape in America increase, will it remain the same, or will it decrease?

9. Implementation of Islamic Shariah will reduce the rate of rapes

Naturally as soon as Islamic Shariah is implemented positive results will be inevitable. If Islamic Shariah is implemented in any part of the world, whether it is America or Europe, society will breathe easier. Hijaab does not degrade a woman but uplifts a woman and protects her modesty and chastity.

i hope u got my point plz u also dont take me wrong its our duty to corect our muslims bro n sis😛
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: peace_islam

kya jo muslim kjam karain gy uska matlab yeh hai k hm islam ko blame karain y???aj toh muslim main har bura shamil hai jo islam main mana hai..yes i know muslims datre at girls or apko ak bat btaon hm muslim toh hain mgr sirf nam k apony kaha k yehj sab muslim s hai
i would like to explain def of muslim " A MUSLIM IS WHO WHO SUBMIT HIS WILL TO ALLAH ALMIGHTY" "MUSLAMAN WOH HAI JIS K SATH OR ZUBAN SY DOSRA MUSLAMAN M EHFOOZ RAHY"
JIS NY AIK NAMAZ CHODI USNY KUFR KIYA....i can say 1000 of examples...toh kya yeh sab muslims aj kar rahy hain dear yahi toh prob hai na aj sab islam sy dor hain or dosry logon ki tradition hm ny aopna li gain..yahi toh bat hai na aj koi sacha muslim nh..
or jahan tak covering ki bat hai toh quran first said about men parda then women..just read surah noor..
or women kyn cover karain Allah ny hmain body di or clothes b to cover our body..kya ap chahti ho k ap show piece bano for men ap sy sawal hai k hum apny apko over kyn nh kar saky????
i think u are very weak in islamic studies yar kabi ksi ka ikkah hwa toh dekh lyna k women have also right to divorce.
u said hamin islam main haqoqo mil b jayen kya matlab hai apka???islm main sab haqoq hai of women plz just read rights of women in islam.islam was first to give rights to women..gr hmara masshar nh dyta toh is main islm ka koi qasoor nh....

Reread my post again... i don't think u understood me well, or either you are just trying to prove me wrong... anyways that's your choice... again, I don't want to start a fight about our religion, you are a muslim, I am a muslim, and we're both happy with that.... I hope you have a happy life...may god bless you! Sorry if I was ever being rude, it's just human nature.
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