Originally posted by: ReemAnshu
Wow ! I mean seriously, when i read your post it makes me chuckle and thanks for that.
Hey, no probs at all. I have been ROFLing reading your posts here as well!
Why are you comparing HR with Amitabh and Naseer ????? Saying things like they are totally comfortable in their skin which HR is not ! Makes me wonder, which person having decent knowledge will compare a legend to someone who has given just one film. How good was amitabh in Saudagar ???? How good was naseer in Tahelka ??? They are the greats, its like saying Gautam Gambhir (hope you know who he is) is not as good as Don Bradman !
You totally missed the drivel here. Naseer and Amitji are at their present position because they are comfortable in their skin and focussed on their niches. They both started out as new comers in the industry but carved their own niche. HR could have done that as well if he would have stuck to composing. He made a mockery of himself running after money and face time in front of the screen.
I feel below dignity to comment further on this, as it will be an insult to compare Amitabh with anyone.
Feel free to not comment on it. Fact remains, most freshers want to reach where AB is. My point above was more to compare the strategies than statures....which you totally missed. Of course, HR is no where close to even a B Class actor like Aftab Shivdasani when it comes to class even though money wise he may beat the poor chap.
If some people think that they are HIGH CLASS, Good for them. In my opinion, Till the time people in India keep talking about High Class and Low Class, we dont have a bright future !
😆 okie, lemme clarify here - India's main problem is castesism not classism. Class is referred to all across the world and is a pretty much global phenomenon. Of course, if one happens to be supporting someone who lacks class, they will make such comments in their defense.
As Shakeel Sidiqui the comedian would say - KAANTA CHURI SE KHANE WALE HUM HAATH SE KHANE WALON KO JAHIL HI SAMJHENGE.
😕 you are now getting confused with westernization and desinization (😆). Nana Patekar doesn't come across as chhuri kantey sey khaney waley but he has class. Don't confuse being westernized with being classy😆
There is no harm in wearing expensive clothes or trying to look good.
😆 fact is he doesn't look good 'coz he doesn't come across as comfortable in his skin tight clothes and weave😆
Every common person would also want to look good. Its not like he was born with everything, he is aquiring everything from Acting skills, to hair to style. And the common man is like that. They work their way up and get the materialistic things to improve themselves. Atleast they have more value for them and are open about them, rather than the supposed high class people who get B**B jobs & nose jobs done privately and keep hiding them. By the way Salman Khan, Akhshay Khanna, Sunny, Bobby have all had hair transplants. Amitabh wears a Patch (its not a wig but a patch of hair in front to blend with his remaining hair).
But you don't see Salman, Akshaye, Sunny and Bobby making a fool of themselves on national TV😆 Salman portrayed an utter tapori image in his dus ka dum but he never lost the class. He still looked classy and comfortable in his skin. You are missing the BASIC difference here and confusing "class" with money, westernization and god knows what not. Class comes from being comfortable in your skin...from not making a fool outa your self...from not blindly running after money....from not chasing fame but raising yourself to a position where fame chases you😊
For you it must be trash, not for everyone and thankfully for HR we dont have people with your opinion in the majority. (with no disrespect, here I am speaking from HR's pov)
Actually you do have people with my opinion in majority with HR. This is the sole reason he keeps aiming for pleasing us....and making a bigger fool of himself while doing this. Otherwise why would you mention in your earlier posts how he worries about those who don't like him! Deep down, he knows the long term recognition comes from having fans of a certain class. He'll never be accepted by those people unless he pulls his acts together and cuts down the nonsense.
No I still dont, I believe in tangibility and others seem to ignore it. All I can say is that, if so many people have bought his music, means that there are large no of people whi think highly of his music. I have a basis to prove my point.
Not really. Going by your point, HR is more talented than Pt. Ravi Shankar as HR's CDs sell more. People buying his music doesn't always translate into them thinking highly for his music. I have said it before and will say it again - it's a fad. It will go away sooner than you think....and as far as not seeing my point - well, you do see it. You just don't want to acknowledge it.
I dont know what you are talking about ! Bappi Da's work still sells and his songs are being remixed left right & center. I was just reading in paper today that India's President - Pratibha Patil is having a Dinner Party at Rashtrapati Bhavan and has personally selected the music to be played. The only Indian artist whom she is having on the list is - BAPPI DA !!!
Now what do you have to say ??? Pretty much forgotten ?????????
Yes. Pretty much forgotten. Do you see people still tuning to I am Disco Dancer? You still see people listening to RDB numbers. Most of them are timeless. ARR's numbers will remain timeless. VS has given some real good music and will keep on doing so as they are focused on their niches. HR's ABA has gone down a lot already as I barely hear it now a days (and thank god for that!) and going by what I am hearing, many think Karzzzzz music pales when compared to the original track.
There is a dialogue in Fashion (the movie) which I will repeat, there are many people in this industry (movie Industry) who keep talking about fame and success but actually they are the ones who have not been successful or lost their success. Those who are, never talk about it. How very true ! This goes out to all the Industry people (MD's / actors / singer) who talk about HR's success.
Bingo. This dialogue proves my point as we see HR constantly talking about his fame, popularity, charts, movies and what not while throwing in a Jai Mata Di here or there😆 So yes, agree with you on this point. Even HR knows he is far from being "successful". He has only created this image of being successful and he knows it ain't gonna last long😉 Thanks for providing this dialogue here and making my case for me😛
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