TRUTH OF SUGRIVA. - Page 4

First of all, all you Ramayan fans out there, I just want to assure you, do NOT listen to this Pimp. If there ever is one, it is saccy_mybaba, not Sugriva and Vibhishanji. Maharani Mandodari is a pure woman, and all of you know that she is one of the Pancha Maha Kanyas, a true pathivrata. She had no relations with Vibhishanji, who we all know is a person of Dharma. Even Hanumanji congratulated him on that. For Dharma's sake, Vibhishanji went against his own family, and Lord Brahma gave him a boon that he would NEVER stray from the path of Dharma, so stay assured that what this crazy person is saying is NOT THE TRUTH! As long as we know the TRUE Ramayana, Lord Ram will be gracious to us. It is not in our place to call devotees of Sita Pati low lifes or pimps. Lord Ram knows who his true friends/devotees are, and true devotees will NEVER say anything against other devotees. And yes, Vali did tell Surgriva to marry Tara, because he wanted her to be provided for and cared for, and he knew he could trust Sugriva for that.

And the story this guy says is wrong. Vali was chasing after Mayavi, who challenged him to a fight, and Sugriva accompanied him. Vali and Mayavi went into a cave and fought, and Vali told Sugriva to stay guard outside. After months went by, Sugriva heard terrible noises in the cave and then saw blood seeping out. Thinking it to be the blood of Vali, poor Sugriva, distressed, went to tell Kishkindha the news. He was only proclaimed king, because everyone believed Vali to be dead. Then Vali returned, and everyone found out it was Mayavi's blood, not Vali's. Vali, who thought Sugriva was hungry for the throne, kicked him out and kidnapped Ruma as revenge. THIS IS THE TRUTH!!!

Oh, and rather than reading the Valmiki Ramayana on the Internet (which may not be accurate because it is the INTERNET!), read the story from a book, and you WILL know the truth.

Saccy_mybaba, I advise you to pray to Shri Ram for forgiveness, because the Lord does not appreciate nasty comments about his devotees. Great people like Vibhishanji, Mandodari, the wise Tara, and the loyal friend Sugriva will always be in our hearts. No one can erase the true story from our hearts, and the Sagars are showing the Ramayan WONDERFULLY! Saccy_mybaba, proclaim your so called truth elsewhere, because NO ONE will listen to you here. This forum knows the true story of Ramayan, not you, and whatever you say will go through deaf ears. WE KNOW THE TRUTH!!!

And I will never give up this battle, NEVER! I will always defend Sugriva, Vibhishan, Mandodari, and Tara. If no one else, I WILL!!!

May Lord Ramji give me the strenth to defend his devotees!

Don't worry, no one is listening to him. Let's pray he'll be forgiven.

To moderators:

It is not fair that SitaLakshmi's first two topics got closed when she was merely expressing her opinion. (Although it was a joke) Why shouldn't saccy_mybaba's topic get closed? Have you seen the disgusting words he uses in it? It is VERY innapropriate for little kids, all the adult content. PLEASE MODERATORS, WE ARE BEGGING YOU ONE LAST TIME< CLOSE THIS TOPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So it's abusing you if I call you a pimp but you have the right to call Vibhishanji and Sugriva that? And you may think that what you said about Sugriva and Vibhishanji is right, but we all don't (at least I and a number of other people don't). You feel what you write is the truth, while we all feel what we believe is the truth. It's apparent that we cannot change your mind, so why not leave this issue alone? And I did read the links you posted, but no offense, there is no proof that those website links are really reliable. If you want to make your so called truth more believable, then quote from the real book itself, but not from some computer websites. And we all have read the Ramayana too, not only you, so why do you always proclaim that what you're saying is the truth? We are not ignorant like you think, and if reliable truth is given, we are open-minded, but you keep writing that you are saying the truth and we all just don't want to believe it. That's not true. We don't base our opinions on the Ramayan alone. There are so many other puranas out there, and in the Devi Bhagavatham, which is a really really good book, it talks about the personalities and characteristis of people from all kinds of puranas. It says there are five celebrated woman who are called the five main pativratas of our religion, and they are Ahalya, Tara (Brihaspati's wife), Mandodari, Sita, and Draupadi. These woman are great woman, and just saying their name erases one's sins. So you see, Devi Mandodari is included in there too. That itself tells you that she never married Vibhishana. So I will never agree with you on that point.

And we have read Ramcharitmanas and Valmiki Ramayana too, but nowhere does it say Vibhishana married Mandodari, and it says Vali told Sugreeva to marry Tara. But I know that you will never accept these points, because you believe that what you say only is the truth, so continue your proclamation, but you have to also keep in mind that being liberal minded is a very important characteristic in a person. You should be open to other facts, and if your opinon proves to be false, you have to accept that. If you don't want to, go ahead, do what you want, and believe what you want. I personally don't care anymore. We have given you warnings about your inappropriate language, but you do not heed them. There is nothing else we can do.

Like Diva82 said, even Devi Sita, one of the Pancha Maha Satis and our respected Mata, suffered suspicion on her behavior by the people of Ayodhya. What to say then of great souls like Vibhishan and Sugreev? They will suffer persecution from people like you, but since they are Shri Ram's ever loved devotees, Shri Ram will always protect them, and I will always defend them, for they are the eternal friends of Lord Rama, and they did no wrong.