Badi Maa's Invitation - Page 2

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

What I don't get is if Manikant hates Koyal that much, then why didn't he tell her to leave the house? Had he gotten a clean break from her, itne saare siyappe nahi hote iski zindagi mein.

As for Badi Maa's behavior, you're right. Her lashing out at the house staff is her way of showing dominance since she's constantly berated by Manikant. Her inability to adequately process the injustice meted out to her is something that Garv picked up on but in a much more aggressive manner.

Because he wanted someone to look after his kids 😕

God, no. I hope that's not it. maybe initially he did love her? Or at least hold some affection towards her. But if this is the case, then what was the turning point, what made him hate her? Or since Maina is Koyal's younger sister, he knew that Maina would not be happy if her sister left and so made her stay.

It could also be that he doesn't hate her at all. Just resents that she couldn't give birth, because of which he had to marry again (something, which maybe he didn't want to do but somehow was left with no option) and now holds her responsibile for it.

Ooh koyal, maina - birds! just realised that 😆 yeah, you can tell from their names they're sisters hehe

Yeah, Garv understands that his Badima, in her delusion, in her helplessness, doesn't realise that Manikant is the problem, not her.

I really liked the confrontation between Garv and Manikant. Manikant was shouting. Garv, on the other hand, to me at least, looked like he was trying really hard to keep his composure, speaking in a cool tone, gritting his teeth. Wasn't even making eye contact. I liked the acting there.

Was scared Garv would break his tv, thank God it was just the mirror 😃

Really gets the conversation flowing, this show

Originally posted by: Docworld

Cant actually decide it.. She is ofcourse a rude and mannerless woman(atleast to the outsiders). But I felt little sympathy towards her in today's epi.She holds no value for bade saab. So this whole authoritative nature may be her way to reinforce her position in the family.

I know that ITV has no link with real life. But just curious to know do these things(bigamy) really happen in Indian households??

wanted to watch the episode before commenting. so I have no sympathy for her and I think bade saab is well within his rights to tell her not to attend the wedding. I voted for 'no'.

we all know that she is a storm in the making and will unleash some drama in the wedding -- because she craves attention and has to be at the centre of it. I think we are supposed to feel sorry for her because she does not mean to be this rude and mannerless but I find her lack of regard for people in general as well the kids she supposedly loves strange and offputting.

supposedly monica is one of the children you raised. so her in-laws pop up and instead of treating them with respect, she is bothered about the sofa getting dirty and insults her future father-in-law to be. bade saab then had to smooth the ruffles. some other family would have thrown a fit that she put the sofa above them. think if you were a guest in someone's house and someone behaved this way, would you just keep quiet?

also, during the dinner table scene after monica told everyone to put a lid on it, it was maina who comforted her -- so she is close to her own biological mother. maybe this explains why badi maa is more bothered about stomping over the servants and kicking out every decorator till bade saab throws a fit. rather than caring about the decorations of a very important function for her niece, she is busy trying to destroy things. she has to be told firmly by bade saab not to pick fights with the decorator. why does she need to be told if she loves monica? 🙄

and at a function that is an important milestone for the bride, she decides to make the function all about herself. maina gracefully steps back but the only reason badi maa sits there at the mandap was because she wanted to show to titli -- the decorator of all people -- who she was. 🙄

this moment was also about herself. did she think about how the niece she raised would have felt -- did she think, wow, this is my girl's big moment? no. did she think that maybe the girl wants her biological mother at the mandap? nothing was about how monica might have felt. everything was about her.

she even was destroying some of the decoration like a childish brat because she was annoyed with titli. what kind of stupid behaviour is that? it is your niece's big week. do you need to like the decorator personally? does it even matter? as long as the work is good, what difference does it make? but she is pettily destroying some ornaments just to make herself big. without a care for her niece -- supposedly she loves the kids. 🙄

everything is about her ego, her needs. the only reason she dances around bade saab is because she is desperate for his love and if he treated her with some kindness, she would walk all over him. her drama is all about getting his attention in some form.

so I have no sympathy for her and actually see her the way bade saab does -- that she took care of the kids with a kind of underhanded motive to allow her to stay in the house. she says that he chose her younger sister but I won't be surprised if she convinced her younger sister to marry bade saab so that she won't have to compete with someone else. bade saab actually seems to be in love with maina.

badi maa does seem to cry crocodile tears because she is not sure how else to respond to bade saab. feels like she uses tears as her choice of defense and it only frustrates him further.

it is unclear why garv is so attached to her. she also seems to give a lot of importance to garv because he is the male child. maybe she didn't care about the other girls and so tells herself that they are close but actually they aren't.

Originally posted by: aaf311

Because he wanted someone to look after his kids 😕

God, no. I hope that's not it. maybe initially he did love her? Or at least hold some affection towards her. But if this is the case, then what was the turning point, what made him hate her? Or since Maina is Koyal's younger sister, he knew that Maina would not be happy if her sister left and so made her stay.

It could also be that he doesn't hate her at all. Just resents that she couldn't give birth, because of which he had to marry again (something, which maybe he didn't want to do but somehow was left with no option) and now holds her responsibile for it.

Ooh koyal, maina - birds! just realised that 😆 yeah, you can tell from their names they're sisters hehe

Yeah, Garv understands that his Badima, in her delusion, in her helplessness, doesn't realise that Manikant is the problem, not her.

I really liked the confrontation between Garv and Manikant. Manikant was shouting. Garv, on the other hand, to me at least, looked like he was trying really hard to keep his composure, speaking in a cool tone, gritting his teeth. Wasn't even making eye contact. I liked the acting there.

Was scared Garv would break his tv, thank God it was just the mirror 😃

Really gets the conversation flowing, this show

I don't think maina or him needed anyone specifically to look after the kids. badi maa took it on herself because it was her way of making herself relevant. I think like many cases of two wives we hear gossip about, badi maa was the arranged marriage wife. he may not have even liked her from the start but he was stuck with her. but when she couldn't conceive, there was a reason to kick her out.

my guess is that she manipulated her sister's love into her marring bade saab except maina become the wife of his heart -- the one who has his love and more importantly got his respect. maina keeps herself above the fray even when she is getting digs and insults by the other sister-in-law and seems to care about her sister's well-being.

since badi maa may not have had a place to leave, he could not kick her out -- all about fulfilling his duty even if he does not want to be her husband. I think he despises her as she constantly proves through everyday drama why she is not deserving of respect.

garv says manikant is the problem. well badi maa is equal instigator. no one would be sane if you have to live with such a cuckoo lady. 🙄 also, she might have always been a bit cuckoo because the other relatives peers don't seem to like her much either...

Originally posted by: aaf311

Because he wanted someone to look after his kids 😕

God, no. I hope that's not it. maybe initially he did love her? Or at least hold some affection towards her. But if this is the case, then what was the turning point, what made him hate her? Or since Maina is Koyal's younger sister, he knew that Maina would not be happy if her sister left and so made her stay.

It could also be that he doesn't hate her at all. Just resents that she couldn't give birth, because of which he had to marry again (something, which maybe he didn't want to do but somehow was left with no option) and now holds her responsibile for it.

Ooh koyal, maina - birds! just realised that 😆 yeah, you can tell from their names they're sisters hehe

Yeah, Garv understands that his Badima, in her delusion, in her helplessness, doesn't realise that Manikant is the problem, not her.

I really liked the confrontation between Garv and Manikant. Manikant was shouting. Garv, on the other hand, to me at least, looked like he was trying really hard to keep his composure, speaking in a cool tone, gritting his teeth. Wasn't even making eye contact. I liked the acting there.

Was scared Garv would break his tv, thank God it was just the mirror 😃

Really gets the conversation flowing, this show

But Maina, their bio mother is right there. And thus far, it doesn't seem like she works so what was the point of Koyal? To keep her as a nanny? 😕 Even Garv saying, "Badi Maa ne humein duniya dikhayi hai" came off as disrespectful to me. Like, he reduced his own mother to just being a baby-making machine and that's it. And Koyal ne kaunsi duniya dikhayi hai? Given her mentality and the way she speaks to others, is very rough and rude. Aise duniya mein toh koi nahi jeeta.

If Maina is the reason why Koyal stayed, then it would have been better if she had just been a surrogate mother. Yeh biwi wala chakkar laane ki zaroorat nahi thi. Unless it was during her first pregnancy that Manikant started to fall in love with Maina?

I think you're right about Koyal's inability to bear children being the catalyst for his resentment. Once Maina came into their lives, the differences between the two sisters might have become glaringly visible and pinch Manikant even more. Garv going against his father wouldn't have helped matters either. Rather than being close to his own mother, Garv gives more importance to Badi Maa which would pinch Manikant even more.

Haha, I didn't know Maina was also the name of a bird! If you think about it, them being named after birds and Titli being a butterfly, they're all creatures that are often caged so that their beauty could be admired. In their own ways, these three women are captured by Manikant and Garv. It's only a matter of how and when they set themselves free.

Yes! That was a really well-executed scene. Manikant's shouting helps him to release his anger however Garv's repression is what makes him lash out violently in private. The conversation he had with himself in his room was equally powerful. Seeing the kind of man his dad is, Garv very desperately wants to be the opposite. It's a shame that his anger overwhelms him to the point he becomes violent. And to think he might even turn into something worse than his father...

Another thing I really liked about Garv is that he is very cognizant of his actions. If he maintains this trait, it will him greatly to mend his ways. But if he continues to let his anger cloud his judgment, he will be crossing lines of no returns.

One more thing I wanted to add with regard to Garv's anger is that it's not cliched. Normally, when MLs are shown as being angry and brooding, they would get pissed at every little thing and let loose on anyone and everyone. Garv isn't like that. When Titli accidentally decorated his car, he didn't shout at her, or even today when he was nearly killed, he accepted the driver's apology and stayed calm even post the incident. It's specific things that set him off which is highly relatable. Yes, as humans we all get annoyed and irritated, but to violently explode on someone - that takes unique triggering moments.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

wanted to watch the episode before commenting. so I have no sympathy for her and I think bade saab is well within his rights to tell her not to attend the wedding. I voted for 'no'.

we all know that she is a storm in the making and will unleash some drama in the wedding -- because she craves attention and has to be at the centre of it. I think we are supposed to feel sorry for her because she does not mean to be this rude and mannerless but I find her lack of regard for people in general as well the kids she supposedly loves strange and offputting.

supposedly monica is one of the children you raised. so her in-laws pop up and instead of treating them with respect, she is bothered about the sofa getting dirty and insults her future father-in-law to be. bade saab then had to smooth the ruffles. some other family would have thrown a fit that she put the sofa above them. think if you were a guest in someone's house and someone behaved this way, would you just keep quiet?

also, during the dinner table scene after monica told everyone to put a lid on it, it was maina who comforted her -- so she is close to her own biological mother. maybe this explains why badi maa is more bothered about stomping over the servants and kicking out every decorator till bade saab throws a fit. rather than caring about the decorations of a very important function for her niece, she is busy trying to destroy things. she has to be told firmly by bade saab not to pick fights with the decorator. why does she need to be told if she loves monica? 🙄

and at a function that is an important milestone for the bride, she decides to make the function all about herself. maina gracefully steps back but the only reason badi maa sits there at the mandap was because she wanted to show to titli -- the decorator of all people -- who she was. 🙄

this moment was also about herself. did she think about how the niece she raised would have felt -- did she think, wow, this is my girl's big moment? no. did she think that maybe the girl wants her biological mother at the mandap? nothing was about how monica might have felt. everything was about her.

she even was destroying some of the decoration like a childish brat because she was annoyed with titli. what kind of stupid behaviour is that? it is your niece's big week. do you need to like the decorator personally? does it even matter? as long as the work is good, what difference does it make? but she is pettily destroying some ornaments just to make herself big. without a care for her niece -- supposedly she loves the kids. 🙄

everything is about her ego, her needs. the only reason she dances around bade saab is because she is desperate for his love and if he treated her with some kindness, she would walk all over him. her drama is all about getting his attention in some form.

so I have no sympathy for her and actually see her the way bade saab does -- that she took care of the kids with a kind of underhanded motive to allow her to stay in the house. she says that he chose her younger sister but I won't be surprised if she convinced her younger sister to marry bade saab so that she won't have to compete with someone else. bade saab actually seems to be in love with maina.

badi maa does seem to cry crocodile tears because she is not sure how else to respond to bade saab. feels like she uses tears as her choice of defense and it only frustrates him further.

it is unclear why garv is so attached to her. she also seems to give a lot of importance to garv because he is the male child. maybe she didn't care about the other girls and so tells herself that they are close but actually they aren't.

This is something that I don't understand about Badi Maa either. No matter who comes to your home, family members, guests, or workers, the basic decency is to show them respect. Not scold them, berate them, or mock them. At this point, I'm failing to understand how Manikant even married Koyal. Even if it was an arranged marriage, surely his parents should have been put off by her behavior. 😕

I also think she's deluding herself about the attachment the kids feel for her. Is Garv the eldest child? I'm taking a guess that if Koyal actually did raise him, then the attachment may have grown from there? I'm taking it in the same stride that a child feels attached to their grandparents or any relatives that may be living with them from a young age.

He can be mad at his dad for the constant blaming but he can't see the wrongness of his Badi Maa's actions? I would like to know if he thinks it's okay to ruin his sister's party arrangements just because she wanted to be petty against Titli, a decorator that he had to hire because she goofed up with the first one.

Her hatred towards Titli is also unfounded. Okay, they got off on the wrong foot but that doesn't mean she needs to keep harboring ill will for her. Titli has already moved on and is simply there to do her job. For Koyal to keep thinking she's there for seductive purposes is so irritating. I honestly can't wait until TiRv gets married and for once Garv puts someone else before his Badi Maa. That boy needs a serious mental health check because of her.

Badi maa has suffered a lot in her marriage and in that house but somehow she has contributed to it as well. If she can be so demanding with others or people outside of her family, ghar ke andar bhi apne hakk ke liye bhi thoda bol sakti thi.

And chalo she wanted to help her sister as her children's nanny, par fir why wear the sindoor and mangalsutra in the name of your sister's husband/your ex husband or why call your husband or ex husband bade saahab?

Aur Maina ne jitni baar bola hai na ki rishta hi kuch aisa hai didi ke saath everything is not the same as it is being showed right now.

Currently, along with all the domestic and Orthodox topics and Garv Titli's interactions, episodes dekhne mein achhe lag rahe hai⭐️

Yeah, that's exactly why I was confused.

you've penned it down really well. Keeping aside the two wives thing, Koyal's self-centered behaviour and constant disregard for her family's honour and respect, does make you question her intentions. And it also justifies Manikant's behaviour.

All this enmity against someone who didn't sell her a flower, seems a bit much.

I was also thinking that the reason Koyal acts out is for Manikant's attention. like how a child rebels when the parents stop paying attention. If not love, then reprimands hi sahi.

Yeah, I've noticed that too. She seems to be close only to Garv, none of the other kids.

It would be really disheartening if Koyal manipulated her sister to get married to Manikant. Can't imagine anyone doing that to their sister. Being someone's second wife. Especially seeing as Maina is always advocating for her sister and trying to make life easier for her.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

I don't think maina or him needed anyone specifically to look after the kids. badi maa took it on herself because it was her way of making herself relevant. I think like many cases of two wives we hear gossip about, badi maa was the arranged marriage wife. he may not have even liked her from the start but he was stuck with her. but when she couldn't conceive, there was a reason to kick her out.

my guess is that she manipulated her sister's love into her marring bade saab except maina become the wife of his heart -- the one who has his love and more importantly got his respect. maina keeps herself above the fray even when she is getting digs and insults by the other sister-in-law and seems to care about her sister's well-being.

since badi maa may not have had a place to leave, he could not kick her out -- all about fulfilling his duty even if he does not want to be her husband. I think he despises her as she constantly proves through everyday drama why she is not deserving of respect.

garv says manikant is the problem. well badi maa is equal instigator. no one would be sane if you have to live with such a cuckoo lady. 🙄 also, she might have always been a bit cuckoo because the other relatives peers don't seem to like her much either...

Hmm, I guess I'm just confused as to what exactly their marital situation is like. If Maina married Manikant, then I'm hoping Koyal had gotten the divorce. Otherwise, Koyal did a huge disservice to Maina by essentially letting her live like the other woman in that house. Then again, given Koyal's personality, I don't think anyone would mind if Maina was actually Manikant's wife. 🤔

Btw, I have to give credit to the writers here. Usually in bigamist relationships, ITV generates a lot of sympathy for the first wife and hatred for the second but yahan toh ulta hua hai. 😆

Yeahh, I can see Manikant keeping Koyal around the house as he might feel a sense of responsibility toward her. Which is why Koyal's abrasive behavior is so wild to me. She proclaims to have a lot of love for Manikant and yet she keeps stirring up trouble that deliberately pisses him off.

Loll, Badi Maa ke saath reh reh ke Garv bhi thoda sa hila hua hai.😆

Garv is too close to the family to see things clearly. He needs to look at it from afar and then make his assessments as to who's right and who's wrong. If he claims Manikant is tunnel visioned into always blaming Koyal, then Garv does the same with his dad. Rather than seeing Manikant's POV, Garv'll immediately be at Badi Maa's defense without even bothering to know what the heart of the matter was.

Originally posted by: Ragazza_dolce

Badi maa has suffered a lot in her marriage and in that house but somehow she has contributed to it as well. If she can be so demanding with others or people outside of her family, ghar ke andar bhi apne hakk ke liye bhi thoda bol sakti thi.

And chalo she wanted to help her sister as her children's nanny, par fir why wear the sindoor and mangalsutra in the name of your sister's husband/your ex husband or why call your husband or ex husband bade saahab?

Aur Maina ne jitni baar bola hai na ki rishta hi kuch aisa hai didi ke saath everything is not the same as it is being showed right now.

Currently, along with all the domestic and Orthodox topics and Garv Titli's interactions, episodes dekhne mein achhe lag rahe hai⭐️

I can understand her not speaking up since Manikant koi haq dene wala toh hai nahi. The least she can do is give it back to Alka since she's constantly talking shit. Apart from that, just learn how to speak with people in a respectable manner. Isse hi log iski izzat karne lag jayenge.

The sindoor thing is throwing me off so much! Is it just symbolic or is she still actually married to him?? Given how much Manikant loves Maina, I don't think he would do that to her.

I definitely think there's a lot more going on in that house than what they have shown thus far. Even Garv's anger has to be motivated by something more than just Koyal being constantly blamed.

Me too! Thoda sa slow paced hai but there is so much layered meaning in every scene they have shown so far. I'm really liking it so far. ❤️

Originally posted by: aaf311

Yeah, that's exactly why I was confused.

you've penned it down really well. Keeping aside the two wives thing, Koyal's self-centered behaviour and constant disregard for her family's honour and respect, does make you question her intentions. And it also justifies Manikant's behaviour.

All this enmity against someone who didn't sell her a flower, seems a bit much.

I was also thinking that the reason Koyal acts out is for Manikant's attention. like how a child rebels when the parents stop paying attention. If not love, then reprimands hi sahi.

Yeah, I've noticed that too. She seems to be close only to Garv, none of the other kids.

It would be really disheartening if Koyal manipulated her sister to get married to Manikant. Can't imagine anyone doing that to their sister. Being someone's second wife. Especially seeing as Maina is always advocating for her sister and trying to make life easier for her.

initially when I didn't know who she was, I thought she was purposely creating havoc in the wedding house because she was jealous relative. that was my initial thought on why she was treating the future in-laws like s**t -- that she wanted to wreck the wedding or give out negative vibes.

and then you find out she raised these kids? my reaction frankly was an eye roll. 🙄

lets go back to the dinner table scene. if the daughter you raised is leaving the house in a week, wouldn't you be making her favourite dishes? make sure those days are special family bonding times because these are days that won't come back again??

no, she is instead focusing on trying to patofy bade saab because he put the sindoor on maina as opposed to her. even when he says 'no' twice, she insists on serving him and when he gets burnt, he reacts aggressively. so in that case, who is really at fault? if someone says, no, shouldn't common courtesy indicate that you back off. why not serve the others in the table? why was she focused only on him when it is a special time for monica?

garv is blind and blames bade saab but can you really blame him? the only language that badi maa seems to understand is insults. only that keeps her within boundaries.

also, the moment she entered the room, everyone was immediately on edge because they don't know what drama she will create. these are relatives and no one seems to like her much. we all have such characters in every family -- people who create havoc when they step into the house and so we resent them. badi maa seems like one of those.

I think we are supposed to see her as someone innocent because she is not necessarily doing this consciously or planned -- however her heart is bitter and therefore she is as well. these kind of people are more dangerous in some sense than villains who plan as badi maa is not the type who is rational. you cannot win her over as her feelings are based on her initial dislike and she is going to be a menace to titli.