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Posted: 9 months ago
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Originally posted by: vaidharbhi95

Jabali as nastik


What is it with Jabali's representation guys ? Many people consider it interpolation in valmiki ramayan right ?

Thoughts?

Translation from Wiki

I denounce the action mentioned below, of my father, who picked up you as his councilor-priest, a staunch unbeliever, who has not only stayed away from the path of dharma but whose mind is set on a wrong path opposed to the Vedic path, nay who is moving about in this world with such an ideology conforming to the doctrine of Chaarvaaka, who believes only in the world of senses as has been set forth in your foregoing speech.

It is a well-known fact that a follower of Buddha deserves to be punished precisely as a thief [because such a heretic robs people of their faith in a Vedically moral universe]; and know a nastika to be on a par with a Buddhist.



My doubt is how can Ram be talking of Budha when he is from Kaliyug and not treta yug .

Does jabali occur in tulsidas ji ramayan or any other version ?


I am hearing this for the first time actually

I have still not reached that part of story in my book neither I have heard about Buddhism in treta yug.

When I had visited Sarath temple in Varanasi a monk had told me buddha had taken many janams before enlighten World with knowledge, I assumed he meant all the previous incarnations but maybe there's more to it

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Posted: 9 months ago
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Originally posted by: RamAayeHain


I am hearing this for the first time actually

I have still not reached that part of story in my book neither I have heard about Buddhism in treta yug.

When I had visited Sarath temple in Varanasi a monk had told me buddha had taken many janams before enlighten World with knowledge, I assumed he meant all the previous incarnations but maybe there's more to it

Interesting . Never heard something like that . But then toh in his previous birth he may not have talked about atheism na ?

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Posted: 9 months ago
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Originally posted by: vaidharbhi95

Interesting . Never heard something like that . But then toh in his previous birth he may not have talked about atheism na ?


I don't think that atheism and the atheism right now is the same one 🤔 and also if you read the section of Ram's response in Wikipedia page they're telling that also seems like a later addition smiley36

But I will research more about it, it does seem very intresting

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Posted: 9 months ago
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hello,
I hope it's ok to ask this here, but I'm looking for a very good translated version of Ramayan (in english)in simplified language if possible. My only knowledge of the story is through my grandmother, Amar Chitra Katha (in childhood) and SKR. I wanted to read a full version of the story, can someone please guide me.

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Posted: 9 months ago
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Originally posted by: vaidharbhi95

Interesting . Never heard something like that . But then toh in his previous birth he may not have talked about atheism na ?

regarding jabali i have read but don't remember exact details but yes there are many things in valmiki ramayan which contradict

sita saying hurtful words to lakshman and bharat during golden deer incident

ram asking sita to stay anywhere she wishes may marry lakshman and bharat during fire test

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Posted: 9 months ago
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Originally posted by: Tani91

hello,
I hope it's ok to ask this here, but I'm looking for a very good translated version of Ramayan (in english)in simplified language if possible. My only knowledge of the story is through my grandmother, Amar Chitra Katha (in childhood) and SKR. I wanted to read a full version of the story, can someone please guide me.


Valmiki Ramayan translated by Bibek Debroy is good if you buy it online it'll be easy to read with online dictionary for some unique English words and it has good glossary as well

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Posted: 9 months ago
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Originally posted by: Tani91

hello,
I hope it's ok to ask this here, but I'm looking for a very good translated version of Ramayan (in english)in simplified language if possible. My only knowledge of the story is through my grandmother, Amar Chitra Katha (in childhood) and SKR. I wanted to read a full version of the story, can someone please guide me.

This is one good resource that I found

https://www.valmiki.iitk.ac.in/

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Posted: 9 months ago
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Originally posted by: cuteamanboy

regarding jabali i have read but don't remember exact details but yes there are many things in valmiki ramayan which contradict

sita saying hurtful words to lakshman and bharat during golden deer incident

ram asking sita to stay anywhere she wishes may marry lakshman and bharat during fire test

WTH . Heart bleeds reading this

Posted: 9 months ago
#29

That's a beautiful depiction of Bharat...a must watch for all the Ramayan lovers.

Listen here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_EduPBmERY

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Posted: 9 months ago
#30

Will Jabali create problem regarding Sitaji after they return from Vanvaas?

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