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Posted: 11 years ago
#61
yes love is blind..that too selective blindness..i can only see neil har jagah...mujhe veera ke ranveer mai bhi neil hi dhiktha hai ๐Ÿ˜†...rockstar ke ranbir bhi looks neil to me...sawan biang ka kaweee looks neil to me
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Posted: 11 years ago
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chotu govinda aa gayi๐Ÿ˜› missed you aur you love only neil aur hum๐Ÿ˜ญ katti๐Ÿ˜ญ
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Posted: 11 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: nneeiill

i dont think lakshman's character is butchered..
only thing is they missed his important scenes...
and abt manthara..i think its true she was sent to karavaas..donno who sent her
anybody can throw more light on it

I did not like how Lakshman spoke so insultingly about Bharat today. It is true that the epic says he doubted Bharat, but his doubt did not go to such an extent that he was ready to kill him.๐Ÿ˜ฒ Lakshman never uttered such inauspicious words that he would kill his elder brother! At the most he was ready to fight him if Bharat ever turned against Ram, but Lakshman did give him the benefit of doubt after Ram calmed him down.
As for Manathara, she was never imprisoned. What happened was that when Bharat turned a cold shoulder to her after returning to Ayodhya, she came to realization that she had done injustice to Ram. She remembered all the incidents in the past when Ram respected and honored her, and she felt so much remorse for her sins that she was unable to be around people. She went on a self-imposed exile by locking herself in a dark chamber for 14 years, and she never saw light or another human face till Ram returned to Ayodhya and freed her from her guilt.
Bharat himself only ignored her. Neither did he forgive her nor did he punish her. He followed his Ram bhaiyya's commands by ruling the kingdom in his name, that's it. I did not like how this show made Bharat seem like a cruel King.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

chotu govinda aa gayi๐Ÿ˜› missed you aur you love only neil aur hum๐Ÿ˜ญ katti๐Ÿ˜ญ


bodyguard ko pehle pata lu๐Ÿ˜† ladki apne aap pat jayegi ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜‰...and missed u and loved u so much gosh this week i m so relived else tht chopped scene made me complete dabloo

and someone post sita and bhaiyaa lakshmana so wanna see them
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Posted: 11 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: arti07


bodyguard ko pehle pata lu๐Ÿ˜† ladki apne aap pat jayegi ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜‰...and missed u and loved u so much gosh this week i m so relived else tht chopped scene made me complete dabloo

and someone post sita and bhaiyaa lakshmana so wanna see them



hmmm yea will make
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: arti07


bodyguard ko pehle pata lu๐Ÿ˜† ladki apne aap pat jayegi ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜‰...and missed u and loved u so much gosh this week i m so relived else tht chopped scene made me complete dabloo

and someone post sita and bhaiyaa lakshmana so wanna see them



btw kaun body guard kaun ladki ...me so confused..๐Ÿ˜ฒ
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67
@janaki : i cant comment as of now if it was insulting or not..havent watched it yet..and thanks about the story of manthara
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Posted: 11 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

I did not like how Lakshman spoke so insultingly about Bharat today. It is true that the epic says he doubted Bharat, but his doubt did not go to such an extent that he was ready to kill him.๐Ÿ˜ฒ

yes he has vowed to kill him he pledged in the name of lord rama in valmiki ramayana lord rama had to pacify him and in ramcharitmanas there was akashvaani (message from the sky to settle him down )
Lakshman never uttered such inauspicious words that he would kill his elder brother! At the most he was ready to fight him if Bharat ever turned against Ram, but Lakshman did give him the benefit of doubt after Ram calmed him down.
yaa he actually wanted to kill him he said it twice once wen they had fight with viradha the demon and secondly wen he saw the army marching towards them

As for Manathara, she was never imprisoned. What happened was that when Bharat turned a cold shoulder to her after returning to Ayodhya, she came to realization that she had done injustice to Ram. She remembered all the incidents in the past when Ram respected and honored her, and she felt so much remorse for her sins that she was unable to be around people. She went on a self-imposed exile by locking herself in a dark chamber for 14 years, and she never saw light or another human face till Ram returned to Ayodhya and freed her from her guilt.

there is no mention of manthara in any version it is just tht shatrughan beat her up in kamban it is said she was expelled from the kingdom and she went back to kakeyi's father some version say tht she was supernakha in disguise came in the palace with the sole purpose to send lord rama to exile so tht he could help her in taking her revenge some version mentions her as the apsara who was cursed by the sage (i think its rishi kashyap) and then she descended down and became ugly and was liberated by lord rama...some say after the punishment her back was broken and she lived like beggar in ayodhya and died there dunno if she was imprisioned but she should be coz bharat was part soul of lord rama and as lord rama he was a strict follower of dharama and noone was spared in the pursuit of dharma not even lakshmana not even sitaji so y would bharat spare manthara he turned his face against his mother and he wanted to banish her but couldnt as lord rama didnt allowed him to do so ...y would he spare manthara and maybe in the coming epi lord rama ask him to forgive manthara after all she is assistant director some thing must be stored for her anyways jokes apart considering tht how strict lord rama and their brothers were in following dharama im not suprised to see manthara behind the bar

Bharat himself only ignored her. Neither did he forgive her nor did he punish her. He followed his Ram bhaiyya's commands by ruling the kingdom in his name, that's it. I did not like how this show made Bharat seem like a cruel King.

if a king punish someone for his/her evil deeds the king cant be termed as a cruel...i dont think bharat is cruel coz he punished her rightousely

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Posted: 11 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: nneeiill



btw kaun body guard kaun ladki ...me so confused..๐Ÿ˜ฒ


u bodyguard she ur girl bhul gayi kya ๐Ÿ˜†
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Love blinds tooโ€ฆ

The verses of Kamban describing the enraged words of Lakshmana make him all the more loveable. There about twelve versesโ€ฆ
That intense love is the reason for his jumping into conclusion when Bharata arrives in the forest. He quickly climbs a tree, puzzled by the sounds heard at a distance and the dust that clouds the atmosphere. When he sees Bharata, he immediately decides that he had come here only with a malicious intention. And that too, when Bharata comes without the ostentatious accompaniments that follow the king. 'vidhi varum thanik kudai mIdhu ilaap padai,' says the Poet. Though the large army marched with him, there was not a semblance of royalty. The king's royal 'white umbrella' was not to be seen. That itself speaks so loud and clear of the intention of Bharata. This was how Guha the hunter chieftain read the situation and read the heart of Bharata.
But not so for Lakshmana. He has his own ways. "Now this intense love for Rama makes Lakshmana regard as his own mortal enemies all who have injured Rama. He never stops to inquire whether they have actually injured him. It is sufficient if he believes that they have injured or even suspects them to have injured Rama. This passion of hatred clouds his mind in all that concerns Kaikeyi and those connected with her," observes Sri VVS Aiyar. Bharata was not any different at all! The moment he set his eyes on Bharata, he rushes into the hermitage, puts on his armour, makes ready his bow and quiver and thus unburdens himself to Rama.
The verses of Kamban describing the enraged words of Lakshmana make him all the more loveable. There about twelve verses through which Lakshmana gives vent to his feelings to Rama. Let us see the essence of these verses, for they very beautifully bring out the passion that resides in the heart of Lakshmana and how he looks at even good persons with suspicious eyes, if he has the least little grain of reason to believe that the interests of Rama are injured.
"Behold yon Bharata, now an outcaste to this world as he has already become an outcaste to the next! Thou wilt see the prowess of thy brother's single right arm against him and all his hosts. Thou will see me destroy the troops of Bharata and make Svarga bend under the weight of quick-rushing immigrants, while the Earth is lightened of her load. Thou will see rivers of blood floating with the carcasses of his elephants and horses, and with his broken chariots flowing to the sea and making the seven oceans one. Thou wilt see my feathered arrows pierce the hearts of those twin brothers and fly through the ethereal void carrying their bleeding flesh in their beaks. By the command of the tyrant king, who was thereto induced by his favourite queen, Bharata is now the Sovereign of the Earth; thou wilt presently see him ruling in Hell at my command! And thou wit soon see the guilty Kaikeyi roll on the ground in inconsolable grief, who delighted not long ago in the tears of thy mother when thou leftest for the jungle-country." (Translated by Sri VVS Aiyar)
Gory picture indeed! Birds flying with the bleeding flesh and limbs of 'those twin brothers' and filling the skies! "Such is the violence of his wrath," says Sri VVS Aiyar. In all fairness Satrughna was the twin brother of Lakshmana and in his rage, Lakshmana makes him the twin brother of Bharata. 'iruvar' is the term used by the Poet.

Though Lakshmana jumps in anger, notice this unique quality in him. This is a strange quality considering the fact that Lakshmana is blinded by anger at this moment.


the letter in blue are taken from the kamban where it clearly mentions tht lakshmana wanted to pierce the heart of bharat and shatrughan ๐Ÿ˜ณ
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