Neil aka Lakshman's 'Shrey' in Ramayan

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Posted: 11 years ago
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The way the show is struggling to live up to the promise, I wonder how far this role will take Neil Bhatt as an actor. As far as his role as Lakshman is concerned, he is giving his best, his "jaan" like he promised. I repeat, I doubt if this is a best role to date but Neil's rendition of Lakshman is absolutely fantastic so far.

However it has been frustrating to see the character that has its own prominence in each version of Ramayan, lose its essence in the makers' pursuit of giving the viewers Anokha Adhyay/ Unseen Tales.

As far as Neil Bhatt's contribution to the role is, he is doing total justice to it. As was promised by him, it is seen that Lakshman's characterization is more intense than having a fierce temper. So much in appreciation of the actor whom fans have till date known to have picked characters of substance, fans take an extra step to understand the historic character he has chosen to play. This post here https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/ramayan-sabke-jeevan-ka-aadhar/3297546/legends-of-prince-lakshman is a way of respect that fans have for his acquaintance in character assessment while selecting a role. Such appreciation certainly outdoes certain other actors' large fan following for their "cuteness" and "hawtness".

In spite of having a good actor to play the character with nuanced subtlety, in spite of the richness of the character Lakshman, who plays a major and substantial role in taking Ramayan forward, when poets and authors quote that "Without Lakshman, ram's journey is incomplete", the essence of this character has been largely decimated.

While it was refreshing to watch the makers handle Lakshman and Urmila's story, it is disappointing to repeatedly watch Lakshman's scenes with other characters of Ramayan being swathed through. Lakshman and Parasuram's scene is a beautiful segment in Ramayan. However, Lakshman's caustic and sarcastic remarks were removed. Though it appears good to watch Lakshman submitting to Ram's one touch or demand, subduing a character's essence is uncalled for. The disappointment is more because the actor could have excelled in portraying that version. When RCM on which the show is largely or loosely based supports such a characterization of Lakshman, why to avoid showing it.

In different versions of Ramayan, when Shri Ram is exiled, Lakshman's conversation with Mata Kausalya, his own mother Sumitra holds importance. When Lakshman's fierce anger on Dasharath for his promise and his subsequent fury on Kaikeyi is significantly described in various versions, why was it not shown on the show.

The one scene I was eager to watch was the Lakshman-Guha conversation. This finds a poetic description with beautiful interplay of words in Kamba Ramayan, also in RCM which highlights their conversation as Shri Lakshman Gita which is considered to be the basis of Gitopadesa by Shri Krishna to Arjuna, as well as in Valmiki Ramayan, and was also featured in Ramanand Sagar's version of Ramayan. This conversation has its own importance that Lakshman-Guha conversation is one of the scripts enacted in school mono-acting skits.

With an experienced actor capable of bona fide acting playing Lakshman, aided by the impactful significance of such a scene in most versions of Ramayan, this exclusion is unreasonable. To cite an example, even in the scene where there is the short exchange of conversation between Lakshman and Guha, a viewer cannot fail to notice the subtle distinction of Lakshman's softness in look when he lowers his eyes when Guha mentions about him having left his "bharya", his wife for serving his brother. That was probably a restrained yet powerful way of registering/remembering her dedication in his thoughts with fondness. The subtlety of emotion is unmistakable. When one has an actor par excellence why to cut down on powerful scenes such as Lakshman-Guha conversation?? It's highly illogical to have cut down on their conversation scene.

Decimating Lakshman's essence in Ramayan seems disappointing when one is aware of the richness of the character in Ramayan and the talent of the actor playing the role.

With regressive shows flooding the television screen and to some of us who have fastened our hopes on a promising artiste, I am sure this is our EXILE period.

Anyone having their own dissatisfaction about Lakshman's characterization, do pen it down here'..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yes am dissatisfied...and very unhappy the way they are handling lakshman scenes..and also the exile period.

I can handle the unknown tales provided they dont mess with essence of main characters ...
they chopped lakshman's convo with parshuram..but both the actors were so powerful that we ignored it..

then they subdued his anger with kaikeyi..

now chopping of lakshman and guha conversation is way too much for me to handle..πŸ‘ŽπŸΌ

in the beginning the show makers and even neil said they r going to show lakshman in a new light..ppl will come to know why he is so important..and why he is worshipped along with ram and sita..

and i see nothing..not even what should be shown...

i dont understand why PH is not concentrating on central characters.😑

every now and then appearance of devtas and narad is gettting on my nerves...and what was the need to bring ravan so early...????.πŸ˜•


it kinda affect the flow and it does not allow us to connect with ram,sita and lakshman...

and since i am watching this show only and only for neil..i cant accept such an unfair treatment to not only lord lakshman but to a wonderful actor...


Edited by nneeiill - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Zeetv Is So Always Like This. I Should Know. I Watch All The Zeetv Shows.
I Hope Neil Does Another New Show Along With Ramayan.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Talk about Narad Muni interfering everywhere. well that is actually Narad Muni's job...
There was an article initially that Shiv will be narrating the incidents in Ramayan to Parvati. But that never happened . Correct me if Iam wrong, I think Ramcharit manas begins that way.
Well, since Zee FB hasn't come up with an effective explanation, it remains to be seen how they take it further if they stick to Anokha Adhyay or would care to feature main incidents.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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gr8 post ganga even i m frustrated with the way PH chopped off lakshmana's scene.his dialogue looks like a filler 😑 this is so not done...though neil is best and only actor worthwatching.and i m watching the show just for neil ......but still how long a actor can pull the show... the story is butchered badly..certain actors misfit for the role.the graphics are lame and script needs to be imrpovished... these mixed up plot /anokha adhaya doesnt hold my interest at all it looks the ph is only interested in telling us the anokha adhaya completely forgetting the real and basic ramayana. if the things continues like this i m sure i m gonna reach the breaking point where i really dont wanna watch it any further...πŸ‘ŽπŸΌ
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Wonderful Post Ganga..While I agree to most of it..There is much of a mixed response from my POV...
First of all,I started watching Ramayan only because of Neil and still watching it only because of him.But Needless to say I ma glad that I did try...Mytho has never been my cuppa tea nether do I have much knowledge regarding Stuff But whatever I read,googled and watched earlier ,makes me voice a mixed opinion... I would not say that this show is WOW! but at least I will applaud for their commendable effort.Yes there are many face palm moments,but then there are AWESOME moments too.Yes Neil being the key to this show,I would have loved his importance and I am a bit disappointed too with the way Lakshman has been handled,But I have again tried to understand the other facets too.The show is about the EPIC as a whole,while certain divine aspects have been neglected,there are certain aspects which have been explored,,,In short,I am quite overwhelmed with the anokhaa rendition they have been promising.. BUT Last two episodes have been a big BIG LET DOWN...Yes totally agree ..Lakshman Guha convo and the exile period looks pathetically drag to me,But Then I cannot close my eyes and forget the awesome moments of Lakshman with Urmila and his family which gave Neil ample opportunity to show his acting skills.
My conclusion is a bit confusing -While the show has given us such wonderful Moments,it certainly needs to give space to all the characters including Lakshman...IMHO The REAL problem does not lie in their perception or treatment of Lakshman.The problem is the pace and the weaving of the storyline together WHICH LOOKS LIKE PATCHES SEWED HAPHAZARDLY in a beautiful VELVET CARPET...
I really wish they could give more scenes to Neil but in their quest to weave too many stories in a short span of time,The flow gets awfully corrupted giving us a drab experience...
Honestly,I had some very GREAT expectations from the show...Till now I have not been disappointed but last two episodes make me wonder whether its just the lack of time which makes them oblivious to the patchy screenplay or is it that they just sleepwalk through the scenes...Anyways...I want the old pace and conviction back...
There has been a lot of debate regarding Lakshman's anger and sarcasm too...Again its too controversial...Emotions can never be penned down,they need to be felt...There can be various interpretations to anger and I am actually quite liking the way ,They treated Lakshman's characterization pre exile ...In fact ,I was amazed by the kind of intensity and depth Neil brought with him..but last two episodes give me a very weird unhappy feeling...I just hope they pull up their socks and do justice to each and every character.Why only Laksgman,even Ram and Sita's journey is somewhat being overshadowed by the patchy screenplay...
Edited by manzilmukul - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Piu,
I have also stated that Lakshman and Urmila's story was refreshing.
As for the Anokha Adhyay's, it can be used to enhance or strengthen the main story or rather add the various versions wherever they find loopholes in the main text they are loosely or largely based on. Iam not against it provided it strngthens the main plot.
I am following the responses from Zee tv FB page as well and they do repeat very often added with the message given at the end of each episodes as "aaj ki seekh". They claim to give out a message to educate the masses.
Leaving aside the fact Neil is playing Lakshman, I would have still wanted to watch Lakshman-Guha conversation which holds the "gita saar" within it. Whether I would have watched Ramayan if he wasn't Lakshman or any other character is besides the point. Yes that is contradicting my own statement.
Yet why I brought this topic is because
a) Lakshman is my favorite character in Ramayan. Its the contrasting aspect of Lakshman being short tempered and sarcastic on one side and being the soft-hearted/ totally devoted on the other which makes the character interesting. He is fierce in the battlefront and also has a shy nature when it comes to Urmila. The 1986 version has a scene which was later withdrawn where he has a shy smile when he meets Urmila post the exile period. I have to admit here that Sunil Lahiri Ji was my first crush in school.
b) The scenes of Lakshman with Parasuram and Guha are ones that are significantly described in all versions. Though I am open to watching untold/uneard tales, I am not willing to let go of the main scenes that take the story forward.
I have been regularly updating Neil's best/ Lakshman scene analysis on episodes, very rarely missing out because Iam happy with his intense portrayal of the character. I have no issues with it. However his stint with the glycerin bottle continues, I too really feel the tears need to be lessened. Yet I would have been happier to watch him perform the above said variations in Lakshman's character. That would happen only if the script accomodates such scenes. When they don't it is really disheartening.
As far as Ramayan as a whole, I am not a follower of Vishnu's Ram Avataar. But I do appreciate the moral teachings the story imparts having watched the series in 1986 at an impressionable age.
So Piu, your mixed response is quite relatable. To avoid controversies here, I might as well stick to Lakshman/Neil Bhatt related posts on the forum. I have nothing to say about the rest of the characters or the actors playing them.
Not that I don't believe in what NB had said in his adgully interview . I appreciate his effort to portray Lakshman in such a way that he gets his "shrey" and attempt to make the audience feel that Lakshman did deserve the godly status that he is entitled to. However the makers need to translate his vision onscreen. Like you say, screenplay is patchy. That's where it is lacking.
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I can handle the unknown tales provided they dont mess with essence of main characters ...
they chopped lakshman's convo with parshuram..but both the actors were so powerful that we ignored it.. It lacked Sarcasm but both the actors were good, so that covered up for the loss.

then they subdued his anger with kaikeyi..
With their disclaimer in the begining of the show, let me conveniently believe it is mentioned in some version that he did cry. My mom's reaction to Lakshman's tears were classic. She said she has never known Lakshman to cry in front of kaikeyi. I think Kerala follows Adhyatma Ramayan which is mostly read in Keralite homes during the "Ramayan Masam". She said she did not know this and that he was only furious with her. If I argue with her asking her if she did not find it intense, her ready made answer was without his fury, it isn't Lakshman. now chopping of lakshman and guha conversation is way too much for me to handle..πŸ‘ŽπŸΌ

in the beginning the show makers and even neil said they r going to show lakshman in a new light..ppl will come to know why he is so important..and why he is worshipped along with ram and sita..
His vision needs to be translated onscreen by the showmakers.and i see nothing..not even what should be shown...

i dont understand why PH is not concentrating on central characters.😑

every now and then appearance of devtas and narad is gettting on my nerves...and what was the need to bring ravan so early...????.πŸ˜• talk about it...




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Posted: 11 years ago
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^ lakshmana was never polite to kakeyi nor he begged her he was angry this was his unconditional love to lord rama tht he went against his parents later on he was pacified ...in chitrakoot he bow down to kakeyi but he never asked for forgiveness...it is clearly mentioned in every version...i think zee tv ramayana is picking a incident and twisting it and making their own storiesπŸ˜•
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yea exactly..when he is supposed to get angry..it should be shown...what is the excuse for not showing it and making him a cry baby in front of kaikeyi..i cant accept it
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