Sleet of Emotional Quivers on RadhaKrishn Love CC#11 - Page 8

Originally posted by: Chiillii

Do you really think a daasi/fisherwoman's father would have the power to demand throne for unborn grandsons or Shantanu would be so love sick as to keep quiet while his good son is deprived of his rights

Satyavati was chedi king Uparichara Vasu's biological daughter. Uparichara Vasu had 5 more sons (one of them who was twin of Satyavati was made king of Matsya). The eldest inherited Chedi. The other three were Kings of Malla Vatsa and Magadha.

Satyavati was only sister of 5 powerful kings that surrounded kuru territory on 5 sides.

She had a skin disease at birth that gave her fish like smell hence named Matsyagandha that Parasara father of Vyasa cured in return for giving him a son a Vyasa. The reason for he living with fisherfolk

It was only after that she became a sweet smelling lady good enough to be queen of Hastinapur

There was no love there but politics purely

Oh that's interesting! I have not much knowledge of Mahabharata. I have always thought she's a fisherman's daughter because that's what they showed in lot of mytho movies and serials.

Satyavati was not only Uparachira vasu's daughter, he also asked the fisher chief to marry her to Shanthanu. It was a planned marriage.

Bheeshma didn't take the vow simply out of love for his father. Hastinapuri really didn't have a choice there. Bheeshma on his own wouldn't have allies. Satyavati's children would.

I suspect Pandavas choosing Matsya to hide out in and the Abhimanyu-Uttara wedding was also a message to the Kauravas that the Pandava side had political legitimacy.

Btw, @Chiillii, there is a disease called trimethylaminuria which causes fish odor. It is treated with diet modification or antibiotics. Activated charcoal is another. There is evidence ancient Indians used activated charcoal to purify water. So perhaps your theory re: her smell is right (not a skin disorder, though).

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Satyavati was not only Uparachira vasu's daughter, he also asked the fisher chief to marry her to Shanthanu. It was a planned marriage.

Bheeshma didn't take the vow simply out of love for his father. Hastinapuri really didn't have a choice there. Bheeshma on his own wouldn't have allies. Satyavati's children would.

I suspect Pandavas choosing Matsya to hide out in and the Abhimanyu-Uttara wedding was also a message to the Kauravas that the Pandava side had political legitimacy.

Who is 'he"? Satyavati's father Uparichar Vasu?

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

yes.

Is this mentioned in MB? Was he alive then? Or was it her brother?

Who was king of Chedi after Uparichar Vasu? Satyavati's twin? Or one of her half brothers?

Originally posted by: Life_Is_Dutiful

Oh that's interesting! I have not much knowledge of Mahabharata. I have always thought she's a fisherman's daughter because that's what they showed in lot of mytho movies and serials.

The story goes something like this. (Others please correct me if there are are mistakes).

Once upon a time Uparichar Vasu's queen was in her fertile period. So she "asked him to give her a child".

But he went hunting leaving her in palace. (Don't remember the reason)

In the natural surrounding of woods he remembered her even more. He could not control himself.

After that he collected his s***n in a leaf and gave it to a bird to carry it to his queen Girika. But on the way the leaf fell from the bird's beak into a river. A fish dovoured it. The fish was actually an Apsara named Adrika reborn. Fishermen recovered two babies from her, a male and a female.

When Uparichar Vasu was informed about the twins he took the son with him to his kingdom. The daughter Satyavati was given to Dasaraj. So Dasaraj was the adoptive father of Satyavati.

Originally posted by: vyapti

Is this mentioned in MB? Was he alive then? Or was it her brother?

Who was king of Chedi after Uparichar Vasu? Satyavati's twin? Or one of her half brothers?

After Uparichara his eldest son Kausamb became king of chedi, his second son Brihadratha became king of Magadha. Third son Malla became king of Malla. Manivahan became king of Vatsa and Satyavati's twin brother Matsya established Matsya kingdom.

Originally posted by: Chiillii

After Uparichara his eldest son Kausamb became king of chedi, his second son Brihadratha became king of Magadha. Third son Malla became king of Malla. Manivahan became king of Vatsa and Satyavati's twin brother Matsya established Matsya kingdom.

I feel in the novel Arayavarta Chronicles the writer implies that Satyavati is called Matsyagandha because she is daughter of Matsya kingdom.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Btw, @Chiillii, there is a disease called trimethylaminuria which causes fish odor. It is treated with diet modification or antibiotics. Activated charcoal is another. There is evidence ancient Indians used activated charcoal to purify water. So perhaps your theory re: her smell is right (not a skin disorder, though).

Thanks...i thought body odour must be related to skin problems. Good to know it actually Is a disease and a curable one at that.

Originally posted by: vyapti

I feel in the novel Arayavarta Chronicles the writer implies that Satyavati is called Matsyagandha because she is daughter of Matsya kingdom.

That is where fiction writers make mistakes. The epic has the logical story in layers between metaphors and magical elements.

Satyavati's political background is given in detail. She was princess of chedi kingdom with bad body odour that was cured by Parasar. Matsyagandha actually means fish odour. Uttara the princess of Matsya is addressed as vairati and matsyakumari