What will be? - Page 2

Originally posted by: Angie12

@Misti, you are absolutely right about the abuse. He did stay silent for 10 years and his neglect/indifference is also a form of abuse. So that cannot be justified and so sympathy for him on that fact alone evaporates. But I still felt sorry for his young self (prior to marriage to Sarita) because he was no needy of someone like Divya. Waheeda Rehman (of Khamosi) is a good example. The way Raj was showing that desperation to Divya by showing how much he had missed her could be related to that character's breakdown in the end. It seemed as if all his suppressed emotions (of 10 years) came to surface. That's why I felt that sympathy for that ignoring everything else. But I still need to get explanation of this kind of desperation. Why so much hurt and anger when Divya did not marry anyone and only left him to take care of her family? He knows his family very well. A greedy family like that would have never tolerated Divya supporting her family while being a DIL of that house.

So it is not realistic that an outgoing open person (whom Divya knew) would transform into this kind of character if there is not some history there. I hope that creatives don't expect viewers to just blindly accept Raj's character the way he was and the way he is now.

You are also right about Sarita emotionally manipulating Divya and making her feel guilty of destroying Sarita's life even though she had nothing to do with Sarita's misery. Nobody can be responsible for somebody's bad behavior towards the other person. It is like Valmiki was told by Narad Muni that only he is responsible for all the crimes he has committed and his family - wife, parents and kids are not guilty of his sins. Divya did not get any space between coming to terms with her own feelings and Sarita marching in her life and bringing all that baggage of the past.

As for makers allowing anything - Sarita making a dignified choice, Raj coming out of his illusionary world and face the truth, all the past story logicially explaining characters etc., is a big question that only they can answer.

Today I felt hopeful that a separation scene between the two would be show. There was a hint of something that happened between them 10 years ago. But then the hopes were dashed when Raj decided that all his complaints were gone once he saw Divya in his house. I am still reserving my judgment because this scene between Divya and Raj will continue tomorrow.

But then Divya asked him the question (Did Raj feel anything for Sarita in 10 years?) where the audience know the answer even before the show started. But neglected to ask the question that audience have been demanding for four weeks: Why did Raj marry Sarita? That question was never asked. Then there is a vow of Divya to Sarita that she will never remind Raj of the past. So are creatives telling us to forget the past and concentrate on present?

Angie now I believe we will never get answers to questions like why did Raj marry Sarita, why did Divya not contact Raj for 10 years, why did Sarita put up with abuse in varied forms? We are just supposed to assume that it happened and the story starts from here. Raj's reason about why he did not go after Divya (or at least contacted her) - that he was angry sounds very lame. The most important person in his life whom he loved dearly was going through such a big personal crisis, she lost her parents, her financial stability and had the responsibility of her siblings - at that moment all he could think of was that "he was angry at her". Does that even sound believable? Even a casual friend would have tried to help her or least understood her plight.

Originally posted by: misti73

What will be Divya's future?

1) Will she succumb to her emotions and like Sarita bring herself down so that her worth will only be limited to advertising for scraps (Sohanlal said that they can use her to advertise their scrap business)...

2) Bring Raj to the right path and give Sarita her hope but destroy herself in the process? Divya has been compared to mehendi before in the show...one that destroys itself to give happiness to others. She has also been compared to Tulsi, one who always stays in the courtyard but does not enter the house.

3) Solve the problem between Raj and Sarita and almost bring herself to the brink of disaster...but then with the help of Gaurav pull herself back and walk away into the sunset?

What will be Raj;s future?

1) Will he continue on the path of self destruction and also destroy Divya and Sarita?

2)Will he realise that he is actually harming Divya by not moving on because Divya cannot move on in life until he does the same? So will he reconcile with his present and let the past go? Or will he let the past o by destroying himself and setting both Sarita and Divya free?

What will be Sarita's future?

1) Will she continue on the path of insecurity and jealousy which might ultimately lead to her own destruction and that of Divya?

2)Or will she finally listen to what her heart has always been telling her and take a step back to set Raj free?

Originally posted by: ruchisahay

Great post Misti and great comments Myra and Angie.Thanks Ruchi.

I don't why but I felt strangely disconnected from all the three characters. Yes sometimes I also feel like that.

Divya - I don't know how genuine she is at the moment. I know she's playing Raj and will cook up a story about Sarita's illness (as per the spoiler) . All through her dialogues, I was thinking how much of this is acting and how much does she really mean. I thought that she might be playing with Raj so that he falls "out of lov" with her. Anyway that conversation is still incomplete. Hopefully by the end of the day we might get to know what is cooking in her brain. The other option is also there that she succumbs to her emotions. I also felt that maybe her stint as tv actress has given her a taste of over the top melodrama - and she is trying to write and direct Raj's and Sarita's story. Well, a lesson learnt - stay clear of spoiler posts 😃.Also stay clear of media reports regarding the show. 😉 I was laughing regarding over the top melodrama part.

Sarita - Well, I cheered for her when she was fighting back against Kamla's taunts and did not take her SIL's abuse. And I sympathized with her when I saw how she was putting up with her husband's neglect - I want her to be stronger but was moved by her plight. But her "bullying" Divya is irritating me. She does not trust Divya but is helpless to take her help, that much I get. But once she has decided to go ahead, shouldn't she at least try to see from Divya's perspective. She can perceive that Divya affects Raj but not the vice versa. Her jealousy and eavesdropping make sense to me but her repeatedly lashing at Divya does not. The thing regarding Sarita that got my attention was when they first showed her running down the stairs and then accidently tripping Kamla. She had initially stretched her hand towards Kamla and then she took it back when Kamla started shouting at her.That showed that once upon a time she might have had empathy towards others plight but now she has become too bitter to think from someone else's POV. If she did then she would not have emotionally manipulated Divya into doing all this. She was lamenting that she has fallen so low that she has to ask Divya for help but she was not sorry that she guilt tripped Divya. So considering all that I can understand why she is bullying her and not seeing Divya's perspective. Infact yesterday Divya did tell her to inderstand from where she is coming from. Don't know whether Sarita will listen to her after overhearing all this. If this had been a real life situation then there will be high chances that someone in Divya's situation might rebel against Sarita and her constant pushing.

Raj - Well, I don't know how to put it.Maybe he's Peter Pan - the boy who refused to grow up.😆. So, now I get it - he did not go after Divya because "he was angry" . Yes and I think ego might be involved here that how can Divya choose her siblings over him. And it was not a knee jerk reaction to Divya's decision (of supporting her siblings). That anger stayed that way for 10 years till it melted seeing Divya making efforts to come back to his life. Call it eternal love, I will call it ego and stubbornness.Yes for me too it is ego plus tantrum throwing. It was not Divya who deserted him - it was he who deserted Divya in the toughest phase of her life.Yes and I think in one of the earier reports about the show they had written that Raj realises that he had betrayed Divya when she needed him the most and then he decides to change and be there for her in her problems. I am sure his moral support would have meant the world to Divya had he cared to think beyond his own issues. What kind love is this where there's only "chemistry" and "intensity", candles and eyelocks - but no consideration, no respect and no support.Very superficial one...I don't think Raj understands the true meaning of the word love.

Originally posted by: radev24

Earlier today wasn't sure if it was the GENIUS you! w/o opening the thread cuz if I had, it would have been clear with profile photo!😆
Hi welcome to the forum. Seeing you after long time.

Read couple of povs and notice that we are all not sure what her real goal is when she knows that raj is passionately in love with her. And there ain't nothing she can do about it. She thinks that she can do something.😉

We are all in the same boat more or less as far as what Div has got herself into. She can give all the vachans she wants to sarita, but that alone cant give her needed shakti strength to follow thru. There are other family members, most of whom you know what. And to expect something reasonable coming out of their thot process is fooling us. So how is div going to handle that? For that matter, she never gave any thot to it, period.She has been projected as being emotional. It is another thing that yesterday she was telling Sarita that we should be practical and not emotional (my eyebrows were raised when she told Sarita all this). Also when her emotional buttons are pushed, then she becomes impulsive. As a result careful planning including weighing all pros and cons goes out of the window.

As I was telling ashna on disc thread, her entire character has to do with "sacrificing", 1st for the family and now her love only so that she can reunite her ex-BF to his wife cuz of running away from him 10 years ago for the sake of shouldering her own family's issues, problems. In hindi we say ... tedhi khichadi! Angie, that's what I should have said in epi discussion thread. TEDHI KHICHDI meaning she really got herself into a big soup this time.Oh that she has...a big pot of hot boiling soup.

Mittals from past experience pre-plan entire serial so missing out on important aspects becomes a misnomer. How that capability will play out in this tedhi khichdi remains to be seen, while other dynamics of SILs, MIL, sundari, sohanlal, sheila, daadi and divya's family have to be tackled simulta-neously.

So one big soup How the foursome will free each from each other is going to be a himalayan task.

Your thread awesome! thanks😉

Misti , its always pleasure to read your thoughts , i today watched this show after reading the comments ,

Today just was watching Astitv , that i think was Zee ,s show and was thinking , such a mature and bold subject with progressive contents . Now you have the look at the shows ,its pushing people back . Just one dialogue of Divya triggered this thought , as watched today , telling Sarita to be inspiration for the girls in her situation,where they should take the help of EX to save the marriage . Is there any marriage which should be saved . I know its hoping against hope ,Sarita should come out of this loveless marriage . watched Raj,s reaction,s he was like a kid who found his favorite toy . Felt sad for him but it happens in many greedy families . Please again saying no advocate of Sarita its acting or contents i go for . That is the reason CB 2 ended for me when Barkha got both of them married . Hope makers bring the main characters ,their reasoning out in the open . Emotions connects the viewers with story not over the top nonsense .Will write later , as going to watch Prison Break

Originally posted by: misti73

What will be Divya's future?

1) Will she succumb to her emotions and like Sarita bring herself down so that her worth will only be limited to advertising for scraps (Sohanlal said that they can use her to advertise their scrap business)...

2) Bring Raj to the right path and give Sarita her hope but destroy herself in the process? Divya has been compared to mehendi before in the show...one that destroys itself to give happiness to others. She has also been compared to Tulsi, one w.ho always stays in the courtyard but does not enter the house.

3) Solve the problem between Raj and Sarita and almost bring herself to the brink of disaster...but then with the help of Gaurav pull herself back and walk away into the sunset? first of all..acho kemon...?anyway hope u r ok...again few my oldies friends r back along with choti bahu eka diviya rani..
come to the point..telling u the truth this story is a gublet kind of..somewhere i had written my umeed for this gubleti story is 0%..we know soaps r unrealistic but this one more than that..oh well kiya kehna..😕
long time ago i had watched a drama ..this story exactly cc like this ..only difference in that story.. D..had to entered in R and S life to make their relationship normal with the help of her dad who was Psychiatrist...after knowing that RS were not happy she had asked her dad what to do he made her to go in their life and make their relationship normal ..for this she has to make her persona very rude and selfish towards S..on purpose insulted her in every step..to make Raj to feel and spoke up for his wife..finally he woke up from his Rip van winkle sleep 😆.. so bottom line at the end she had successful to make R..to fall for his wify..but Her life had been ruined ..she couldnot go back to her own life anymore ..she got back to her dad as a patient ..
hmm..dont know about this crappy story but i guess end will be like this ..Divya will be the victim ... poor D rani.. Gaurav will be with her ..and will wrap shawl around on her shoulder in some hill resort 😆...and D would say ..thank u bhaiyajee..😆 kaun hai aap..😆
Rest of the 2 characters Raj and saru..dont feel like to talk about..🥱

What will be Raj;s future?

1) Will he continue on the path of self destruction and also destroy Divya and Sarita?

2)Will he realise that he is actually harming Divya by not moving on because Divya cannot move on in life until he does the same? So will he reconcile with his present and let the past go? Or will he let the past o by destroying himself and setting both Sarita and Divya free?..

What will be Sarita's future?

1) Will she continue on the path of insecurity and jealousy which might ultimately lead to her own destruction and that of Divya?

2)Or will she finally listen to what her heart has always been telling her and take a step back to set Raj free?

Originally posted by: ruchisahay

Angie now I believe we will never get answers to questions like why did Raj marry Sarita, why did Divya not contact Raj for 10 years, why did Sarita put up with abuse in varied forms? We are just supposed to assume that it happened and the story starts from here. Raj's reason about why he did not go after Divya (or at least contacted her) - that he was angry sounds very lame. The most important person in his life whom he loved dearly was going through such a big personal crisis, she lost her parents, her financial stability and had the responsibility of her siblings - at that moment all he could think of was that "he was angry at her". Does that even sound believable? Even a casual friend would have tried to help her or least understood her plight.

Ruchi, if creatives are seriously thinking of not giving answers to these answers, then they are living in fool's paradise that viewers will stick with the show. Usually not giving logic happens from the sixth month onwards when characters start changing and so on based on ratings. But if it happens in the very beginning, the show is doomed. That's why we feel disconnected with three characters.

@Radev24 (Shrel?), Good to see you after a long time. How have you been. This is a stew right now with khichdi, rice and whatnot thrown in a soup where nothing is recognizable.

@Misti, @Kinara: Now you are both talking the same thing. Divya having a mental breakdown similar to Wahida Rehman who in curing others became too overwhelmed with her own emotions. I really don't want that to happen to Divya that she should be destroyed this way for choices of others. Her only choice was to get into the middle of all this. Here too she had no choice because there was no way she could have moved forward in her life with having those unresolved feelings about Raj and feeling so guilty about him.

@Misti, @Kinara Interesting prediction - though a sad one. Divya is sure playing with fire but her character is so likable that I would like a happy ending for her.