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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Kritikaa, Yes, bigamy is illegal and by law the second wife is a mistress. Kamla can send Sohallal to jail and I hope they show her doing that. If I could write this serial, I will show Kamla getting confident enough (with the help of her kids - Raj and Shiela) to fight with Sohanlal and kick him out of her life after taking away all his earnings. She deserves that after putting up with him for 30+ years and bringing up his 4 kids and taking all that abuse/ridicule from him and Dadi.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ruchisahay

Agreed. I am actually having trouble watching the serial due to Raj's dad. I am still watching it as that's my bonding time with my MIL who's visiting us - after my kid sleeps. Yesterday, I was getting up frequently to 'get water', 'check the locks' etc. as I found him very repulsive. Especially his comments on his son's bedroom life- come on who speaks like that to his son and DIL. Wow, if that's the effect PH wanted then they have succeeded.
This PH does have loud characters and too much unnecessary melodrama. But I think it does generate TRPs in the areas used for TRP measures. Last year, I tried to watch couple of their shows in the middle somewhere because the promos suggested some sort of progressive story. But top side characters and some lead characters just turned me off because the story turned out to be quite different than I had expected. Here too I liked the initial concept of people stuck in time and then learning to move on with the help of a person. But like you, I could barely yesterday's show and had to fast forward a lot of it. The father's over the top (OTT) crudeness is repelling me and less said about his second wife, the better. Then they turned Sarita and Divya into caricatures yesterday. Raj of course has never been explained. He is not an unkind person, but his contradictions are not making sense to me unless they logically explain his transformation to such a character. Probably, PH is trying to appeal to a certain section of population that likes such a melodrama and provides them ratings.
Are you pursuing studies after marriage? I work in applied research - and am amused and irritated by the type of stereotyping they do in soaps and movies for academically inclined people. Large glasses, socially awkward, lacking confidence and geeky mannerisms 😊. And being a working Mom, I absolutely hate it that personal fulfillment and ambition are never the goals of heroine - all good Moms are stay at home, all business tycoons are impressed with chirpy women (with a large heart and IQ of 5 year old kid) who can cook and sweep well.
I sometime wonder how all this affects impressionable, young girls - all these extra long eye-locks giving a very unreal picture of romance, glorifying sacrifice instead of trying to find logical solution to problem, selling empty-headedness and too loud as lovable. When I was studying in college (7 years back), in my batch there were 9 girls and 250 guys and as far as I know, the ratio is more or less the same even now.
Ruchi, I agree 100% with all the stereotyping you mentioned above. I had couple of professors in University who were really brilliant mathematicians. They wouldn't even fit any stereotype as they were so artistic too. One of them used to play Sitar regularly and other one was passionate about Guitar. Actually, a lot of girls had crush on the first teacher who was also very good looking. So you can imagine that none of us ever skipped even a single class of his. Some would even go to his office frequently to ask him questions even though they knew the answers.
As far as I am concerned, I am done with studies even though I do like to take a course here and there just to keep my mind sharp. I am actually a Mathematician & a Statistician from an educational background viewpoint. I work in research in Finance area, but couple of years ago, I changed jobs. I now work indirec ly in applied research in the sense that I no longer build econometric models, but validate other people's models and simulations. But I did finish a part of my studies after getting married. I was working full time at that time and also finishing higher level degrees and juggling everything with marriage. I love working and get a lot of personal satisfaction on doing it. So I too dislike how they show anybody pursuing ambition as a selfish person. Yesterday, the dialogues between Divya and Sarita were so regressive and I am not even starting on the father whose scenes I ended up fast forwarding.
What about you? What is your field and what kind of work you do? Are you in Engineering or in Sciences?
What about you? Is your field Engineering or sciences because of the ratios you have mentioned. What kind of work you do.
Agree with your take. The environment in which the Kamla's kids grew up did not teach them to value or respect women in general. But still there's a little nature along with nurture that defined a person. How come all 4 of her kids lack the basic moral fiber to stand up for their Mom. In my hometown, there was this couple (married for over 20 years), where the woman filed a police complaint against her husband for physical violence - it was a mini scandal there. From what I heard, she suffered the same all her married life but got courage only when her son took a stand against his father.
I agree that it is highly unrealistic to show that not even one kid has empathy for Kamla. I would have thought Shiela would be sympathetic to Kamla because she is shown to feel empathy for Sarita. She even takes a stand against Sarita. But she too was shown to hit her mother at her lowest point (very bad behavior in my opinion). How can a girl who can feel sympathy for her bhabi cannot have that for her mother. I can accept the behavior of two younger daughters who seem to take after the father. But Raj and Shiela are not believable in the sense that none of them stands up for Kamla ever.
I have also heard of few kids like that who have supported their mother against the father. In fact, there was a news on CNN just few days ago how this guy from UP, India who worked for years to bail her out as she is in a jail for a crime. She was never tried for the crime but couldn't get out of the jail because she did not have few thousand rupees for the bail. Her whole family - husband and relatives abandoned her. Her son who was born in jail was also taken from her after few years. Yet he worked extra hours to raise money ( I believe he is only 19 or 20). People were so moved by his dedication for his mother that they were offering assistance to him.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kritikakk

@Angie12
i agree with u, ur sum up of how these 3 characters shld move on n end up!

i dont know whether raj respects women or not, yes he does seem to be a good guy who helps others, but alot abt him is still not revealed and its getting irritating!
yet i will say i cant understant any person who after loosing their "love" become to unattached n desolute that they ruin their own life n lives of others around them! raj is very destructive in nature instead of channeling his pain into other thgs as career!

Kritakakk,
Thanks. Raj is not an unkind person. He did help Divya thinking it is a stranger that he is helping. I totally agree that the execution of the show and storyline is not going well for me. I do not understand what is so great about showing Raj like this where no logic is given for his behavior. Instead of unnecessary drama of father/second wife, show more of Raj so that audience can connect to him even if they don't agree with his actions. His character is the one who is coming across as totally non-understandable for me.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ushasri

awsome analysis angie i liked heading of the post and divya is so lucky god didnt gave her this inlaws dont how she handle when she stay in raj house to unite raj and saritha poor divya iam liking gaurav and divya character and hope they dont turn saritha negative character( if they decided to unite ravya) as turning positive char to negative is what zee likes

Usha, thanks. Divya is lucky to escape from these people. They would have never let her work outside to support her siblings. Now she has found a person like Gaurav who is a very emotionally mature character and who balances her impulsive/emotional nature. So I am rooting for these two to get together. Divya can always love Raj in her heart, but can also find love/respect with Gaurav.
I don't want to see Sarita as a negative character. Instead I want to see her as an evolved character who realizes that one's happiness is not dependent on a guy and it is possible to do something other than stay in a meaningless relationship. It doesn't matter who ends up with whom as long as a proper journey is shown of all four characters. But I am having my doubts seeing how they are presenting these characters in first few weeks.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: love_karanabha

Nice post


Btw i like the way kamla talks 😛

Thanks.


The actor playing Kamla is really good with her accent. Her body language and accent is actually how the people from that region show. In fact, I liked her a lot in the scenes with husband and then Dadi. She was not screaming, but her hatred/resentment for the husband was very visible even though she didn't speak a word. Then her frustration and anger while trying to control her tears when Dadi was blaming her for everything was very good. Her character is now beginning to really interest me. Rest of Raj's family is caricature. She is the only one who is complex.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Priyamvada

completely agree wid u! Awesome analysis... loved ur take.

Definitely raj's family is a mess! looks like his only escape is Divu back then n when she left him... he became a robot! stopped living life, it was as if, he lost everything when Divya left him..

poor raj n sarita n divya! I dont like these new characters!

Priyamvada, thanks.
Raj's family is totally a mess and so is Raj. Divya with her vibrant free spirit mentality, honesty and cultured outlook must have been a breath of fresh air for Raj. So can understand to an extent that he got lost without her. Divya on the other hand came from a supportive family and had the confidence to pursue her goals. But they need to show more of Raj to explain him. I don't understand why they are not focusing on him at all.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angie12

@Kritikaa, Yes, bigamy is illegal and by law the second wife is a mistress. Kamla can send Sohallal to jail and I hope they show her doing that. If I could write this serial, I will show Kamla getting confident enough (with the help of her kids - Raj and Shiela) to fight with Sohanlal and kick him out of her life after taking away all his earnings. She deserves that after putting up with him for 30+ years and bringing up his 4 kids and taking all that abuse/ridicule from him and Dadi.

yes I am aware of that, I work in legal field!
I would also have like to see a proper story, if only kamla's kids could understand her and support her against Sohanlal n his "mistress"... it would be a social message and also refreshing to see this on a hindi show!
Kids are the biggest support for their parents not just in old age but are their pillar of strength...but alas kamla's kids are neither supportive nor seem to be the understanding type to stand up for their mother against their father! they lack compassion n empathy... a stark contrast to divya, her family and gaurav!
whatever their reasons may be, it is not right! esp raj is most disappointing! did his so called "love for another woman" become more important then the woman who gave birth to him? a man who cannot understand or even see the pain of his own mum, the abuse and humiliation she is subjected to daily ... im sorry but from my POV, such a man isn't capable of "loving" anyone else be it divya his lover or sarita his wife or any other person!
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