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Posted: 11 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Myra.nelly

This episode was kinda twisted to me...i get it that they tried to show that Raj was forced by the father to marry Sarita...but what do not understand is this man, raj's father has two wives?! married both kamla and other legally?! is that even possible, isnt it bigamy?
Anyway, hope divya will consider gauravs words and wont go to that house..or else the poor girl will b shocked..



even I wondered da same...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ruchisahay

Gosh! I posted something very similar in another discussion. So, I agree with everything you said about Raj, Kamla and his family.
Ruchi, I read your posts and our thoughts are very similar on this.
I felt very bad for both Raj and his mother - especially his mother. To end up with a husband who insults her before her kids and who has brought a second woman into her house after a long married life must be unbearably painful and heart breaking. Taking it all out on Sarita is wrong but at least she hates her husband as well.
I felt sorry for Kamla both pre-leap and yesterday. In pre-leap, the husband was again threatening to hit her because Raj hadn't showed up for the wedding. Dadi was as usual silent and not blaming her son whatsoever. Then he had asked Kamla to call Raj. I had a feeling that time that Kamla was very reluctant to call him to show up for the wedding and only called him under duress.
Her husband is despicable and actually Kamla needs to send him to jail because of bigamy that is a offense under Indian law. He is doing both physical and mental cruelty and jail is a better place. It is wrong what she does to Sarita, but it seems that Sarita is the only one available on whom she takes out her frustrations.
What I liked about her demeanor was how she really hated the husband. In fact, maybe Kamla would turn out to be less bitter if she could punch her husband either verbally or phsyically. There was a suppressed anger and resentment in her eyes the way she was looking at Sohanlal. She has no respect for him and yet was forced to do his aarti and touch his feet. I really liked that aspect of Kamla. Like Sarita, she too blames the other woman for her problems. But unlike Sarita, she does not feel love for Sohanlal (at least it came out that way for me yesterday).
Gaurav's words resonated well with me - they were words of reason and everyday practicality. I currently like his the most in the most - purely based on his character. Or, maybe I am biased as for the first time I am seeing an academic person on TV who's not a nerd. I mostly avoid shows as I never relate to characters on TV - there are no non-geeky researchers, no good working Mom (the one who loves her kid but wants to work for personal satisfaction).
I too like Gaurav and I am also happy to see a parallel lead who is doing something other than being a businessman (typical serial profession). I am by education a mathematician and so I liked seeing such a character. For the first time (in my limited history of serial viewing), I saw a mention of an academic conference.
As far as good working mom (who is doing something out of personal satisfaction), I think that is not happening anytime soon. The women who work in TV serial usually do so because they have a family to support. Case in point Divya. I wouldn't have minded seeing Divya also leaving for Mumbai because besides supporting her siblings, she wanted to pursue a career in acting. All these women totally lose interest in jobs/careers once a guy comes into their lives. Also, all bahus do housework from washing clothes to cooking to sweeping even if they are from a rich family. Even in middle-middle class families, you will find a maid cleaning the house these days. A woman wanting career or pursuing education will be shown doing all sort of work at home before thinking of studying.
Sometimes I think these writers/CVs (of TV world) are illiterate people who have no concept of how people operate in real world. There are people who have a hard life pursuing studies and also managing household work, but they are not perfect ideal bahus of serial world.
Raj's sisters and his dadi are just caricatures - no real personality. Honestly I can never believe that any grown up daughter can take her mother's insult the way Raj's sisters accept - irrespective of the money factor. Even my 2 year old kid reacts when I have even minor disagreements with my husband - and he always supports me over my husband (something that makes him jealous 😆).
Besides the sisters and Dadi, even the father/second wife are coming across as caricatures to me. That's why they are not interesting me now. From Raj's family, it is only Kamla, Sarita and Raj that interest me.
But I can believe the disrespect shown by kids to their mother when they are brought up in a household where there is no respect for women. Here they have shown 2 kids (Raj and Shiela) not displaying this kind of behavior even though they too do not respect Kamla.
One of my friend told me this incident, where she had this college friend who got married to a very dominating chauvanistic guy. Both are educated, yet he takes delight in putting her down in front of friends/relatives. So she was visiting this friend one time and they had few more guests. The friend brought out snacks for visitors and her 6-7 year old son commented to her not to eat Samosas because the father was saying that she would get fat. My friend was aghast at such a behavior from the little kid, who seemed to be getting influenced by the father. Eventually, I think her friend filed for a divorce because she was getting concerned about the impact of such behavior on her child.
Here pre-leap, they showed Dadi making fun of Kamla publicly and then there is a father who speaks about hitting her in front of daughters and DIL. So kids are taking their value system from the father. Kamla too is culprit because she is using these two daughters in her war against Sarita. For some reason, Raj and Sheila have remained far from this kind of behavior. Maybe in case of Raj, he was artistic by nature and must have detached himself from the household. He is detached personity in how he doesn't seem to care for anybody in his family. Sheila seems to like her brother and probably emulates him.
But that is really sweet about your 2-year child. I have two young nephews who do the same if there is ever a disagreement between me and my husband. My husband tells me that I have brain washed them and that's why they side with me. He says that they just don't know any better and will gain wisdom once they grow up. But again this behavior comes when there is mutual respect between adults. Here, there is no respect whatsoever for Kamla.

Edited by Angie12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@aimf, I did read your post and liked the comparison you did.
The motivation of none of characters is revealed yet. I do hope they start showing some of the back history soon because some of these characters are beginning to bore me. Dadi is a survivor. She literally and figuratively goes to sleep when it is convenient for her as that way she can avoid all altercations of which she doesn't want to be a part of and still come across as supportive. It was really two faced the way she was sympathizing with Kamla yesterday. She was actually taunting her on her bad decisions rather than suggesting a solution. She does the same thing to Sarita where she gives her false assurances that things would be better and advices her against taking the right step. But she never stands up with them when it is needed. As you said, her self-interests come first for her. So she could taunt her son about neglecting her, but was only making faces when he was abusing Kamla. I get the feeling as even her supporting Sarita is not for Sarita's sake, but to score a point against Kamla.
These people do belong to some backward century. Wonder what kind of family Sarita has that they are letting her stay with such people in a loveless marriage.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Yaariyan: Thanks for liking the post.
@Sonia: Thanks. Yes, Kamla and Sarita seem to be tolerating the same fate, though Raj is not crude like his father. But he too is flaunting another person in her face even if Divya is an invisible person. Also, both are bitter due to same reason and yet blame someone else for their problems. Kamla is nasty to Sarita and Sarita is being nasty to Divya even if the treatment is different.
I also hope that they show thought process & backstory of Raj, Divya and Sarita because Raj and Sarita are not the type of characters I can understand. Divya's character is an open book and her actions are also understandable. But instead of moving with all the melodrama, they need to make these characters realistic and logic palatable to viewers. Else audience would start losing interest if characters do not make sense to them.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Kritakakk,

This family is very self-centered and self-absorbed family and there is no giving for anybody. Everyone including Sarita is looking for their own interests.
You are right about Kamla and Sarita being very similar in so many things. But I can better understand Kamla's motives in staying in this marriage. She is an uneducated woman who already had four kids when this other woman was brought up in her life. She is financially dependent on Sohallal for support.
But Sarita is only staying in this house because of Raj. She knows that Raj wouldn't even care if she left him and she has seen that first hand. So she is taking all this abuse in the hope that one day Raj would look at her in a different way. I don't get this kind of women who fall in "love" with a guy and would do anything to get him. Here Raj is not a prize that one should be after. I can see why Divya fell for him as he was a different person and she only saw the best side of him without any baggage. He helped her in becoming this confident, successful person. But Sarita has only this aloof, detached side of him. Yes, he is a good person underneath the way he drove Divya in his tempo or carried her in his arms to the hospital (he didn't know it was Divya). He does show small courtesies to Sarita, but that is it. There is no empathy for her pain whatsoever.
I won't say that he doesn't respect women because he did have an equal relationship with Divya. But he is a messed up confused character. I agree that he should not be either with Divya or Sarita.
In my opinion, the best conclusion so far would be for Divya to heal Raj and help him move on in his life. She does the same to Sarita who leaves Raj and builds a new life for herself (and that may include getting a new nice guy). Divya's wounds also heal in this whole process and she is able to move on with Gaurav. Both Raj and Divya still carries memories of their love with them (you cannot ever forget people who meant something so much to you once), but learn to respect/love other people in a different matured way.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Edited by ruchisahay - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Angie12
i agree with u, ur sum up of how these 3 characters shld move on n end up!

i dont know whether raj respects women or not, yes he does seem to be a good guy who helps others, but alot abt him is still not revealed and its getting irritating!
yet i will say i cant understant any person who after loosing their "love" become to unattached n desolute that they ruin their own life n lives of others around them! raj is very destructive in nature instead of channeling his pain into other thgs as career!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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awsome analysis angie i liked heading of the post and divya is so lucky god didnt gave her this inlaws dont how she handle when she stay in raj house to unite raj and saritha poor divya iam liking gaurav and divya character and hope they dont turn saritha negative character( if they decided to unite ravya) as turning positive char to negative is what zee likes
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post

Btw i like the way kamla talks 😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Myra, the last two episodes have been very twisted. Yesterday's episode actually turned me off because the CVs have become so involved in their theme of "a beautiful woman who is not a wife can save a marriage rather than destroy it". As a result, they introduced these 2 exaggerated characters (father and the 2nd wife). On top of that, they are hell bound on transforming these three characters - Raj, Sarita and Divya into one-dimensional caricatures without explaining their past actions logically. Divya is being turned into a typical serial type Devi. What is the need of that as she is coming very self less to me even now. Sarita is another one whom they have reduced to a caricuture by making her actions that of a somewhat obsessive woman. I had wanted to see Sarita as a woman who stands up for herself and fight for her rights in a dignified manner. Her actions are depicting her instead as this desperate clingy woman. Then less said about Raj, the better. Instead of going for the full melodrama of father and 2nd wife saying all these repulsive lines, I would rather see an expansion of Raj so that audience can connect to these characters.
But I agree with you that Divya had an escape from this house and Raj too. In fact, I am cheering for her and Gaurav as he is the most normal character of this show. Hope they don't destroy his character in the future for the sake of melodrama and ratings. Divya deserves somebody like Gaurav in her life after all the turbulations she has gone through.
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