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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: hina13

don't agree with you at all here There is no disconnection and he is sincere enough They every time show him repenting on his past in which scene they don't 🤔by now they have said it through his words zillion times@ bold 1 i guess this line he has said many many times now


@bold2 this what he is doing or what else he is doing

you have different opinion and thats solely yours no issue with it but explanation is not at all convincing so completely disagree here

There is a disconnection - The descent of Jagya was gradual and the basis for that charcter was provided right from childhood how he has a habit of falling for all things glitter.So him falling for Gauri was not surprising.He also has been shown to be ashamed of his background which led to his lying about his parents and him not wanting to be in a village.This is way before he met Gauri.
After he met Gauri his weak selfish nature led him to do all the things that he did.So there was a connection.
After leaving Gauri all of a sudden he wanted Anandi and decided to get her back then all of a sudden he realised he is not worthy of Anandi
And now he gives lectures to Ganga and Sanchi about how they should conduct their lives how they should fight for their rights.
He has not been shown to be bothered about what all things he has done to Anandi, Gauri and his parents.If a persone has changed the way he behaves and thinks how is that he is not shown to be troubled by his past?

I do not think they have shown him to be troubled by his past.No normal human being forgets all his her wrong deeds even if he/she repents.

They only show him doing a lot of good deeds to show that he has changed.
But what they have shown so far is not convincing enough to say that he is paying for what he has done nor is it enough to believe that his past acts trouble him.

Any way when the going is good he has been good.I believe that he has changed only when he counters Gauri's negativity with his newly acquired positivity.


So far all that he has done is that he has come back and works in the village hospital and thinks that is a great way of life and the second thing he just got rid of Gauri that is not enough to make him look good in my opinion.

It does not reallly wipe away all the things that he has done to Anandi before he left her and all the things that he did to get her back.He has not really been punished for this.He only cries over the loss of Anandi not once does he think about how much pain he caused her with her behaviour not once does he wonder what trouble she has undergone because of his cruel rejection.
This aspect of it has not been shown and unless he is shown to be paying for these mistakes and being bothered about these things his redemption remains hollow.

If you choose to believe that he has changed that is your perception.May be some of us do feel that he has not paid enough for his mistakes and nor he is really bothered with all the acts that he has done and all the good things he is doing right now do not really balance all the things that he has done.



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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

There is a disconnection - The descent of Jagya was gradual and the basis for that charcter was provided right from childhood how he has a habit of falling for all things glitter.So him falling for Gauri was not surprising.He also has been shown to be ashamed of his background which led to his lying about his parents and him not wanting to be in a village.This is way before he met Gauri.
After he met Gauri his weak selfish nature led him to do all the things that he did.So there was a connection.
After leaving Gauri all of a sudden he wanted Anandi and decided to get her back then all of a sudden he realised he is not worthy of Anandi

And now he gives lectures to Ganga and Sanchi about how they should conduct their lives how they should fight for their rights.
He has not been shown to be bothered about what all things he has done to Anandi, Gauri and his parents.If a persone has changed the way he behaves and thinks how is that he is not shown to be troubled by his past?



I do not think they have shown him to be trouled by his past.No normal human being forgets all his her wrong deeds even if he/she repents.

They only show him doing a lot of good deeds to show that he has changed.
But what they have shown so far is not convincing enough to say that he is paying for what he has done nor is it enough to believe that his past acts trouble him.

Any way when the going is good he has been good.I believe that he has changed only when he counters Gauri's negativity with his newly acquired positivity.


So far all that he has done is that he has come back and works in the village hospital and thinks that is a great way of life and the second thing he just got rid of Gauri that is not enough to make him look good in my opinion.

It does not reallly wipe away all the things that he has done to Anandi before he left her and all the things that he did to get her back.He has not really been punished for this.He only cries over the loss of Anandi not once does he think about how much pain he caused her with her behaviour not once does he wonder what trouble she has undergone because of his cruel rejection.
This aspect of it has not been shown and unless he is shown to be paying for these mistakes and being bothered about these things his redemption remains hollow.

If you choose to believe that he has changed that is your perception.May be some of us do feel that he has not paid enough for his mistakes and nor he is really bothered with all the acts that he has done and all the good things he is doing right now do not really balance all the things that he has done.



@Bold 1 it was not all of a sudden Anandi's lecture hit him which she delivered in front of Shekhars and Singhs and him ,when Shiv refused to marry her for him That day he realized how much pain he has caused to Anandi he is not worthy of her so whats all of a sudden here? Connection is there His conscience never gave up and so that conscience acted here as well The realization he did wrong was already there and the extent he realized here and with that came realization he is not worthy of her after what he did


@Bold 2 after whatever he has gone through his life a lesson he has learnt and cvs have shown it how he learnt it The connection is there now i cannot write whole serial here 😆

about Gauri If cvs are not showing making rounds of that pathetic woman who has no shame then they have reason for it That shows his redemption The truth is he need not blame himself for everything regarding that woman while she is no less and also did wrong to him as well and haven't realized but since he is blaming himself for everything he doesn't want to force her to forgive him The same guy i guess we all were criticizing him when he was forcing Anandi to forgive him he was wrong there if he is not doing same to Gauri then again we have problems ? He cannot expect Gauri will accept him back after her rutheless rejections to him and he don't want to force himself upon her He hasn't declared her you are dead for me in the letter He forgave her rest its her redemption to develop shame in her and give a decent closure to her relation by asking forgiveness from him for her misdeeds towards him .instead of throwing him out of her life like he doesn't exist for her Live or die i don't care He don't need to realize for her she has to for him

Rest of your post thats your personal opinion and i really don't agree with you at all Disagree with your line completely he is never been shown bothered about his past You are calling his realization as hollow on which basis thats been shown thousand times but you are ignoring it My perception is on the basis of what is being shown When did he forgot his past ? no where when is he not repenting on it ? For his each and every action cvs have shown him going through his past Why he refused to marry in the first place ?what he said to Bhairo ?why he is hating himself ? why he compared himself to Ratan Singh ? etc The aspect you are asking is being shown but again the point is noticing it .Cvs cannot stop his all works and give him a room and show him only cursing himself They have other works to do as well They have to show him progressing as well otherwise what is redemption lock your self in a room and only think think think ?The day he will move from inner self where he is still stuck on past going through a self hatred The day he will give his one chance by allowing aspect of love coming in his life and accept it and even love someone that day you can say he has really moved on from past For now he has not and he has paid and he is paying for his mistakes

He was not complete negative ever that one can say he has only acquired positivity now Good works he did even before but his changed view point towards life How he is now acting is realization he got from his chapter of life so far A lesson learnt so connection is there

so i really don't agree with you lets agree to disagree here His works in my view are perfect to balance out everything Thats been shown in serial more will come and everything is clearly visible

Edited by hina13 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hina - you con't to fail to get my point. Sanchi is a baby in terms of wrongs relative to J and yes... Daadisa, Ratan, etc. So, while she is irritating there is no need to engage in hyperbole that she is somehow the worst we have seen in BV when that is clearly not the case. Its a simple point. Am not defending Sanchi - just stating facts. Relavtively, she is nothing...rude & childish at worst.. If u read my 2nd post, u will realize that even I find her annoying... but, on reflection I realized that she is no more than a fly! Its all about RELATIVITY. Others were much worse and much more annoying...
Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 12 years ago

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