women - trouble with C.Bhagat ??? - Page 3

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Sex is a personal choice and something that takes place in intimate relationships. It is irrelevant who initiates it. It doesn't matter if the people are married, just dating, one night stand or friends with benefits. Sexual relationships are not immoral, and we have to stop perceiving people who have sex as loose, characterless or immoral.

The only times when sex is problematic is

- It is forced or with someone underage (this is not just immoral, but a heinous crime)

- People have utter disregard for health and precaution

- You lie about being in love or being single just to sleep with someone, and similar forms of deception/cheating.

I don't find sex immoral or believe in enforcing moral rules and expectations. However, sex does come with risks & responsibilities. I do expect people to give due thought to choices and options when having sexual relationships.

- Risk of pregnancy. Use protection (condoms and birth control). But protection is not infallible. You need to have some idea of what you will do in case the inevitable happens and what will happen to your relationship.

- Risk of STD. Use protection and get regular health checkups. Again there is no such thing as 100% safe sex. You need to show responsibility in whom you sleep with irrespective if it is a one night or long term.

- Emotional attachments. The act maybe just for physical pleasure, but we are humans and tend to attach emotions to physical intimacy. Not just women, even men experience attachments during one night stands or casual sex buddies. When you sleep with someone, you have to know and accept that they may not be in the same place as you emotionally nor will they want the same things out of the relationship. You do your best for transparency.

And these three are issues even married couples face. One spouse wants children, the other doesn't. One spouse is very emotional during sex, the other spouse will be just casual and aloof.

Originally posted by: boreddamsel

well if i remember correctly, all of them were gifts from gods 😳 so in a way none of them were pandu's kids.

Originally posted by: Riyasi

Then why were Karna and his mother particularly scandalised over his manner of birth 😆

Was it only because Kunti was unmarried at the time of giving birth to him and married to Pandu later. In this case her marriage was a big sham 😛

Kunti was scandalized by the birth of Karna because she was still single and unmarried. Which meant she was supposed to be chaste and virginal. Having a child, even that of a God tainted her chastity. But once she was married and had the permission of her husband to invoke the Gods to beget children, then such relations were acceptable.

One could call the marriage a sham. On account of a curse Pandu never had any physical relationships with his wives. The marriages were platonic. Some of these strange notions are in Indian society even today. Pre-marital and extra-marital sex is hugely scandalous. But if there is an issue of infertility or impotency, it is perfectly acceptable to sleep with someone else to beget children. Then begetting heirs is more important.

PS: Aww 😳

If a woman is having sex, its the society that decides what is right and wrong. 😳

I remember being taught that kunti misused the boon given to her and had sex before her marriage 😆 she was supposed to wait until after she got married. But then she was such a naughty kid, she couldn't wait

😲

Originally posted by: boreddamsel

If a woman is having sex, its the society that decides what is right and wrong. 😳

I remember being taught that kunti misused the boon given to her and had sex before her marriage 😆 she was supposed to wait until after she got married. But then she was such a naughty kid, she couldn't wait

😲

Originally posted by: ritika06

Did she had sex?I thought she was given amantra by her guruand was told that whichever God she calls,she will get a son from that God as a gift.😕

I guess i have to ask this question in the mythology forum.

I know right 😆 the lies we are told.
But how could you possibly have a kid without having sex!
And then on the other hand, how were the kauravas born? How can you create beings from flesh in a pot? Well in a way that was better! Imagine giving birth to 101 kids 😲
There is a mythology forum on IF?

Oh yeah my prof skipped the sex part. Even I was taught that she said the mantra when she was specifically told not to until after marriage.

Originally posted by: boreddamsel

I know right 😆 the lies we are told.
But how could you possibly have a kid without having sex!
And then on the other hand, how were the kauravas born? How can you create beings from flesh in a pot? Well in a way that was better! Imagine giving birth to 101 kids 😲
There is a mythology forum on IF?

Oh yeah my prof skipped the sex part. Even I was taught that she said the mantra when she was specifically told not to until after marriage.

When narrating the story they say mantra to "invoke" God's, but what they leave out is invoke the God's to give you a child aka have sex with you. Kunti was a naive kid and didn't understand what the mantra was. She was just excited that she could call Surya deva to her, but didn't realize that it meant he would have sex with her.

The myths like Ramayana or Mahabharata are not meant to be taken literally though. They are mere allegories. Just stories that make us think about ethics, morality, rationality etc. The problem is that too many people take them literally and don't engage in critical thinking.

As for kaurava's birth, its juwt mytho way of saying test tube babies. They were explained in many derivative work.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

When narrating the story they say mantra to "invoke" God's, but what they leave out is invoke the God's to give you a child aka have sex with you. Kunti was a naive kid and didn't understand what the mantra was. She was just excited that she could call Surya deva to her, but didn't realize that it meant he would have sex with her.

The myths like Ramayana or Mahabharata are not meant to be taken literally though. They are mere allegories. Just stories that make us think about ethics, morality, rationality etc. The problem is that too many people take them literally and don't engage in critical thinking.