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Selina thumbnail
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Posted: 19 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: Buffie




Yes,the media is the only source of information...At the same time,we must also realize that not all what the media carries is true.....

The media reporters do not have first hand knowledge most of the times,they report based on what some people tell them...Now these people can lie,cant they..B'coz,the media carried news saying that Abhishek and priety are dating,and that spread through the grapevine,with Karan Johar setting the wheels in motion..Thus completely believing what the media spouts is stupidity!

Thats what I'm saying.. since the audience doesnt have any first hand information.. we have no choice but to believe the media.. unless the person in question comes out and sorts out the whole issue. But you cant go and refute everything that the media says blindly. For the first few months of the Ash-Vivek relationship.. i thought the media was making it up since Vivek was younger than Ash (not that it matters.) But it turned out to be true. When mid-day published the whole thing about Kareen and Shahid's infamous mms clip.. both of them went beserk saying it was all made up. But what happened in the end? The tapes turned out to be genuine. So.. lets not talk about the credibilty of the media.. because thats questionable.




I loveed Vivek in Saathiya,but I yet stay true to my stance...When the movie released,vivek had just 1 hit to his credit..Company..and company too wasnt his movie...Now,saathiya had great music,one hell of a storyline which wasnt the usual hackneyed crass,and Rani...The promos were convincing....Vivek solely wasnt the reason for the movie's doing well......

What about Ishq Vishq then? It was Shahid's first movie.. but it did extremely well. So you cant say that Vivek doesnt deserve any credit for Saathiya.




Yes,Vivek had the potential,and still does have great potential...Afterall,didnt even Abhishek struggle for 4 years and churn out 17 flops before Yuva happened 😃 ..His career choices were downright BAD,something which only he is to be blamed for.....he rejected Hum Tum and green signalled projects like home delivery...Thus,its only his stupid choices that have culminated in his surrent plight,not Ash!

I think Rani didnt want to work with him, thats why he left that project. Not sure though. Well, I hope he rises above his failures, and gets another chance of making it big.

A good professional is one who separates personal life and professional life..VO had some problems with that psycho Salman....He should have been clever enough not to wash his dirty linen in public,as that adversely affected his career....If he really succumbed to Ash's egging on and provocation and thus went public,there cant be anything more asinine than that ..If VO became blindfolded in love,its his fault!

Yeah that whole press conference thing was stupid of him. Thats why Dia Mirza and Rani started hating him. Because he dragged their name in the whole thing. But who knows.. maybe he discussed it Ash before going ahead with it. I dunno.



YES,its very much open to doubt and skepticism,just as the allegation that she uncerimoniously dumped him by just saying that "she isnt answerable to him" is open to doubt....Thus,when we can give a margin of doubt in one case,its just but fair that we must also give that margin to the other statement..what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gancer! 😛

I tried looking for VO's interview where he was talked about his relationship with Ash.. and how it ended. I couldnt find it.. but if I do.. I'll post it.



Now fine,she didnt do the most sapient thing...But is that a sole reason to hate her 😕 ...Yes,in retrospect we might say that she made a big error by dating salman in the first place.....No point in being wiser after the event!..Ash-Salman predicament is their personal life,and none of us know the true story and the accurate chronology of events that finally led to spiltsville

Her relationships arent the sole reason why people dislike her. At least not me. I have other reasons which I have stated before. Well its not her fault that she went out with Salman.. its a good thing she ended things with him.



Yes,Sush is very vocal about her personal life,and Ash isnt!....Buw how fair is it to calumniate Ash only because she doesnt resort to recrimination.....Now,if Ash starts retorting to every false allegations and animadversion,some people cant even hide in the darkest corner .....Sush has oncesaid that She finds married men "interesting"...and the ulterior meaning is very blatent....Now Ash isnt the one who would say such things........... because she doesnt get involved in a mudslinging spree,its wrong to berate her and deem her to be a scourger👎🏼

I dont particularly like Sush as an actress either.. but she has this off-screen persona thats very attractive. Thats the only reason why she won Miss India in the first place (Ash was better looking.)

But I dont think it works in Ash's favor, if she has nothing to say on issues relating to her. I know shes not obligated to talk about her life, but since she is a public figure, the audience expects her too. On David Letterman.. he asked her if she had a boyfriend, and she was like "I'll leave that one for the auto-biography".. personally, that answer just doesnt appeal to me.



Why should she 😕 ....She has never done that before,so why now 😕 ....and who knows,they might indeed be dating too 😉 ..Even when Abhishek was going out with Karishma,initially both used to rubbish the fact as a mere "rumour"....So,we cant really be sure 😛

If she doesnt clear it up.. I dont think she/her fans have any right to complain that people are unfair to her.

BTW: Buffie.. just wanted to tell you.. you're an awesome writer. Great job!!

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Posted: 19 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: Evee

Ash is beautiful and a good actress.

Her interviews are boring. Her accent is FAKE and it really makes me cry.

lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 😆

Evee.. thats all you have to say?? slap

Selina thumbnail
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Posted: 19 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: Evee

It makes me cry as its sooo FAKE!! Why cant she just speak normally and not try to imitate american accent!!

Seriously.. I saw her interview on an indian channel.. and her accent was totally normal. Thats what shocked me.

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Posted: 19 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: Evee

I saw her on ABC and I was like which planet is she from?????? lolz

but otherwise I dont have a prob with her.

Maybe shes insecure (she doesnt have a reason to be though, she has everything a person could only dream of having).. I dunno what the reason is. But I'm sure people would appreciate her much more if she was just herself.

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Posted: 19 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: Selina



Thats what I'm saying.. since the audience doesnt have any first hand information.. we have no choice but to believe the media.. unless the person in question comes out and sorts out the whole issue. But you cant go and refute everything that the media says blindly. For the first few months of the Ash-Vivek relationship.. i thought the media was making it up since Vivek was younger than Ash (not that it matters.) But it turned out to be true. When mid-day published the whole thing about Kareen and Shahid's infamous mms clip.. both of them went beserk saying it was all made up. But what happened in the end? The tapes turned out to be genuine. So.. lets not talk about the credibilty of the media.. because thats questionable.

Exactly😆..Both of us are agreeing on the same point,but you chose to see one half of the scenario,and I'm seeing the other half...You're saying that the media cannot always be wrong,and I'm saying that it need not be always right😆

What about Ishq Vishq then? It was Shahid's first movie.. but it did extremely well. So you cant say that Vivek doesnt deserve any credit for Saathiya.

Ishq Vish wasnt a big banner movie,it was plain run of the mill,where both the leading stars debuted....Whereas Saathiya has Rani,it was YRF movie,good music....Vivek certainly deserves alot of credit for portraying the role to the T,but then again,what lured people into the marquee wasnt Vivek alone

I think Rani didnt want to work with him, thats why he left that project. Not sure though. Well, I hope he rises above his failures, and gets another chance of making it big.

Again,the reason being Vivek's own imbecilinc nature right..WHo in their right mind would give such a press conference...Vivek's a good fellow,who's stupid..But I dont think that should be a reason coz of which success is eluding him..AFterall,the "Mr.40 who wouldnt grow up" is worse than Vivek,but he gets away😡..Sadly,Life is not fair.....But Vivek should have known that he's no salman,who has the entire industry to support his ridiculous and abominable behaviour🤢

Her relationships arent the sole reason why people dislike her. At least not me. I have other reasons which I have stated before. Well its not her fault that she went out with Salman.. its a good thing she ended things with him.

Disliking a person needs no reason....Truly,One just doesnt need a reason to like or dislike a person....But people just cant start tongue lashing the ones whom they dont like for baseless reasons...One shouldnt call a person "jinxed or unlucky or manipulative" only because they dont find them appealing...As I said to Mauritian,I have no problems with people not liking Ash's giggling or finding her to be fake,finding her accent to be feigned...But calling her jinxed/unlucky/someone who casts a blight on men's future/someone who obliterates men's star status and their career and other such disparaging remarks is retrogressive and petrifying

But I dont think it works in Ash's favor, if she has nothing to say on issues relating to her. I know shes not obligated to talk about her life, but since she is a public figure, the audience expects her too. On David Letterman.. he asked her if she had a boyfriend, and she was like "I'll leave that one for the auto-biography".. personally, that answer just doesnt appeal to me.

That's again your personal opinion,and you're fully entitled to feel that way you want to....Ash was on a talk show,and if people find her answers not upto the mark,they have all the rights to voice those opinions..But what is horrendous is the way people start reviling her for certain articles,which arent 100% authentic and credible....

If she doesnt clear it up.. I dont think she/her fans have any right to complain that people are unfair to her.

Ummm,so are you meaning to say that If Ash summons a press conference and washes her dirty linen in public,and if she screeches"HEYYYYYYYYYYYYY...I DIDNT RUIN VIVEK'S LIFE....I AM NOT AN UNLUCKY GIRL.....I DIDNT TELL SALMAN TO RUN OVER A HOMELESS VAGABOND...I DIDNT ASK HIM TO KILL A BLACKBUCK"....that would simply aggravate the current state of affairs,with everyone getting teed off ,and in exasperation slinging mud with great fervour,and thus with the media having a field day..thankfully,Ash is too dignified to stoop to such levels👏

BTW: Buffie.. just wanted to tell you.. you're an awesome writer. Great job!!

Thanks😊

Edited by Buffie - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
#96

just rexently wen this tape came out Ash was asked if its fake or wat but she didnt say anything and later it turned out to be fake...i dont get Ash's tactics at all, if she thinks something is wrong she should say it. Like if she knew the tape was fake why the hell did she kept quite?😕 i saw her interview on TV, well it wasnt really an interview but wen this tape thing came out, Media was al after her and instead of denying that any such thing happened she kept on saying oh god will protect me if the tape is false and stuff, it really freaked me out when she said this, coz if she is so moral-girl then she should have said it in the first place that the tape is false and its not her voice...About whole industry being on Salman's side thing is concerned then i think its everyone's individual decision who they want to so called "support".

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Posted: 19 years ago
#97
Ash! Is one lucky lady who has been blessed with exceptional beauty, which I can say that she has capitalized on in every possible way. She is a smart 21st century woman, who lives life on her own terms. She really is one lady who has the guts to stand up to all the arrogant and chauvinistic men of our film industry. She outshined Shahrukh khan (the most self obsessed actor in Bollywood, I don't think he is bad, I like him like that. 😆 😳 ) in Cannes film festival, dumped the abusive Salman and made Aamir sorry for choosing Rani in MP instead of her! So, with all due respect I say that she rocks!

PS: She has practically dated every hot guy in Bollywood and only thing that I have to say is Angelina U better grab on to Brad PItt cauz our doe eyed gal is coming! 😆
Edited by suku - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: WorldClassDiva

About the accent. I see nothing wrong with it. I mean those who are complaining about it, have you heard Salman, Zayed talk? Now that is called faking the accent. They talk like total wannabes.

Ash carries herself very well and is very articulate. Russell Crowe sometimes sounds like an American, so does Charlize Theron, Martin Henderson and other foreign actors. When I heard Madonna talk few years ago I was stunned, she had a sort of British accent. I'm sure Madonna was faking it and she's a wannabe. 🤔 🤔

Ash probably saw a vocal coach in Hollywood like every other foreign actors. Zhang Ziyi also pronounces some words with a twang. I'm sure her countrymen are losing their sleep over it. Give me a break.

So what does India forums accent police got to say about this? 😕

So.. Ash is the only one who has a reason.. and the others are all wannabes???? Thats just not logical. The thing is that Ash's accent changes from interview to interview. Especially interviews in different countries. Atleast Salman and Zayed's accents are consistent.

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Posted: 19 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: WorldClassDiva

Well if the whole industry favors a murderer, then its better that they're not on Ash's side. Their credibility just goes down the drain.

I don't think Ash cries to sleep over who is on her side. After all she has a few but loyal friends and families. She doesn't need a$$kissers on her side. She is doing fine without them.

Also anyone who works with her always praise her for her humility, dedication and professionalism. 👏

This is a debate about Ash.. so why are you guys talking about Salman Khan? Its not like he went out and killed a person on purpose. It was an accident. If he werent such a huge star would you even care?

You say that who ever works with her always praises her etc.. have read interviews of people who work with Salman Khan. They all maintain one fact.. that he's misunderstood. He goes out of the way to help people out.

Just because he had a bad relationship with Aishwarya Rai doesnt make him a monster.. since we dont know what really went wrong between them!!

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Posted: 19 years ago
about Ash's accent not being liked by people is ture coz i have heard quite a lot of people (outside IF) who say that Ash speaks like a "Freshie" (and this word annoys me sooo much 😡). anywyas i have heard that she tries to speak in a way she doesnt really do in normal life like interviews in India, but oh well she is pretty and it doenst really matter how one speaks 😊
Edited by scorpion134 - 19 years ago

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