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Little Chote was mama's little boy. His mom was his world. Nobody has ever been as important to him as his mother...He couldn't tolerate her pain & like he does now, he takes out his anger on anyone he thinks is the cause of it possibly punishing the innocent. Once she was gone, Anji took her place and he protected her like he did his mom...A boy who overreacted over a piece of thorn to protect his loved one...The vengeance against Khushi and the forced wedding now makes sense.



The beautiful girl accidentally fell into his arms that night at Sheesh Mahal....It was the beginning of an unexplainable pull that brought them together...How it all happened, he didn't have a clue. But today as he drives around it is clear as mud. It was meant to be....The travel thru time, from the first day, sending her to the parking lot, rescuing her from the farm house, the hate wedding....
These were times he had punished her for no fault of hers....



The times there was some expression of love be it attraction or concern - teej when he gave her the first sip of water, her concern when he went missing on their first mehendi, the accident when he thought he almost lost her, the bandagement...She was slowly growing on him...



Farak padta hai kyunki aap hai...agar aap hi humhe chodke jaayenge toh humhari saansein hi...



Her open admission of love, at the airport...Despite her pleas, he left that day...but she didn't hold it against him she did everything in her power to save him...Her love for him was deep and she had proved it time & again....Bharosa hai aap pe, aapke pyaar par...she had said just a few days ago....But the undeniable truth was, her mother was the one who caused devastation in his family...

He loved her just as much & asked her never to leave him....The star scene came into play today...Would his mother be happy? He had asked her....Today he knew the answer....His mother was a gentle soul who always asked him to take care of his loved ones. How could he hurt Khushi for no fault of hers? Mothers wisdom learned from the conversation he had with his mom as a child...Never punish the innocent..... Today it was clear, 2 people most important to him, his mom & his wife. One his past and the other his future...



Aaj main yaha sirf tumhari wajah se khada hun... jaha dard, dhoka aur nafrat ke alawa kuch nahi hai....



What I loved was he came back for her, not to settle scores... At least not yet...
You can take a whole negative connotation to this dialogue but what I saw was a man who was in love and was here to give his wife her honor back....He wants to clear the image from the past wedding when he blamed her for no fault of hers and today he was about to commit the same mistake. She is innocent...He will follow his mother's wish...He wants to see his mother happy coz he believes she is watching over them...


Khushi was the one who made him believe that his mother was in a better place...she made him believe his mother was happy to see him finding true love..Khushi is the one who is trying to bind him to the good memories from his past...It wasn't always about the incident that happened 14 years ago...Khushi was instrumental in reminding him of the good memories from his childhood....It is only recently he started thinking of the happier times with his mom....


A few days ago he was reminded of the planting of the seedling, how his mother talked about life and today she talked about loving and caring for those you love...the healing has begun....all this time he associated his past with hate but now he is reminiscing over good memories and cherishing them....Trying to follow his mother's dreams, her wish for her children and their well being...


The tug of the dupatta indicated, he is here for her but he isn't willing to forgive Garima yet. He doesn't not make eye contact at first...Was he feeling guilty for all the wrongs? This time he let her down at the altar when he should have been there and in control...



He stepped back when she advanced towards her...This time he wants clarity, his reasons for being there...He wants her to hear him out....Loved that coz this time he wants to start with a clean slate, whatever he has on his mind he wants her to know it before they make the commitment...There will be no coercion like last time....It is going to be her own free will....



They should cut down on the drama, Khushi running around the mandap, kabhi ASR ke liye, kabhi Agni ke liye was ridiculous. Buaji's thappad was uncalled for...She wasn't in a state of shock nor had she lost it...She was hopeful and believed in her heart he would come....She remembered his promise, the rituals didn't mean a thing....They were already one, he was her mother's bahu....He would take her home....But as time goes by and the Agni extinguishes, she loses hope, slowly walking away...A distressed Garima calling out...



Didn't care for the telepathy but loved Nanhe and Nani....Nanhe has been a
true friend to Khushi.... Yest he was the voice of reason and today he forcibly stops Khushi from doing something stupid. Nani, a true mother and genuinely a good soul...beautiful inside & out.... she has lost her child, her s-i-l and was face to face with the other woman...



But when she saw a distraught Khushi, she rushes to her aid and comforts her...She acknowledged Khushi's role in Chote's life...her motherly instincts tells her, chote won't let her down.... she was right...her chote is her grandson...He was born a Malik, thinks like a Malik but he is a Raizada at heart. She knows Khushi is the one who brought happiness back into Chote's life...he would be back for his Khushi...



And that he did...Will he hang on to hate or will love triumph? Will he follow his mothers heart? He will not forgive or forget Garima or the past, at least not yet... That is a healing process for Khushi to deal with...Long & arduous...The hate of 14years cannot be undone overnight but forgiveness can heal the pain, uphill battle for Khushi but the girl we know is up for any challenge.... It should be Khushi's promise to her mother to give her back her dignity...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Scene opened with a repeat of Arnav breaking things apart in his mother's garden, he is lost and broken yet his mother manages to give him a sign in the form of a flower. The flower brought back a FB in which Arnav remembered his mother's words about how one shouldn't hurt their loved ones because of others, advice very apt for the current situation. His mother was guiding him down the right path.

The car scene was one of the highlights for me since I wanted Arnav to remember Khushi, the rush of FB that ran through his mind were powerful. Arnav remembered everything about her, from their first meeting, to falling for her, to fearing he lost her, the hate marriage, her trust in him, the fact she nearly lost her life for him. It was all there.

Khushi, how much more can this poor girl take? Like Arnav, life has dealt her crushing blows but she refuses to let it bring her down and continues that fighting spirit even though it resulted in an unnecessary slap from Bua. Khushi refused to give up on her love, believing he could never let her down.

NK, this guy has kept his word about being there for Khushi. What a friend he is, he cried when Khushi cried, it pained him to see her like this. I'm glad the "spoilers" turned out to be false about her going missing, NK stopped it from happening. Khushi in that condition should not be going anywhere or be left by herself, she needed her loved ones.

Nani, despite such a shock Arnav and Khushi were never far from her mind and her heart broke for them. Nani couldn't hold herself back from going to comfort Khushi who by the end just looked so broken, she told Khushi that Arnav would come but did Khushi even hear her?? Khushi just looked like she was in a trance only to be brought back by Garima who called out to her.

So the last 3 minutes left us all wondering what in the world just happened. Arnav arrived, held onto Khushi's dupatta yet stepped back when she came close. Speculation set in, does he hate her? In my view, no he does not. Arnav told Khushi despite it all he came back for her. Those flashbacks he had earlier were not for nothing, they were the force which guided him back to his love. He won't let history repeat itself, he will do right by her this time. These two coming together will be for love but their happily ever after won't take affect until much later, these two still have a fight on their hands but will face their challenges head on.

Edited by .Mandy. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I don't know if I was more entertained with the onscreen drama today or the off screen. Either way, the unnecessary crapfest continued all day enough to make anyone question their sanity and for an insane person like me, that's saying something.

On-screen kektafication of the drama: The only things even remotely worth watching today were first 3-4 minutes and the last 5ish minutes. Everything else in between came from the most cliched, overdone Bollywood flicks with the sole purpose of adding masala for unnecessary suspense and kitchen politics. The high point of the drama was yesterday, it reached a peak and now it needs to drop down and come back to normal. Premise was established yesterday, evidence has been provided and now it is conclusion time. Anything additional might weaken or strengthen the argument but conclusion needs to be reached first. This is critical reasoning, which is critical for the show at this juncture. I did not care one bit for the DUI adventure of Indi 500, neither did I care for ramming the car and the busted forehead. Yeah yeah I get the point Arnav has to be hurt because he is hurting Khushi but a gush of blood doesn't really invoke any sympathy from me, sorry! If anything it was a distraction! The guy emotes with his eyes, you have locks of hair covering his forehead in addition to the red paint, how the heck am I supposed to pay attention to what he's trying to convey? Again - very BWish and so unnecessary. The guy is hurting emotionally, spare the physical torture. He'll get plenty of opportunities in BW to showcase the bleeding hero. The only takeaways from the episode:

1. Mama Malik, the rose and the thorn - Love needs to be nurtured. The bud needs love, care and time. Every rose has its thorn, you can't accept one without the other. If the thorn hurts you, why punish the rose when that rose is innocent and has done nothing but to bring you happiness, pleasure and love? If you love someone enough and they love you back, you hold on to them, you learn to accept people for who they are and with their baggage. When you hurt the ones you love, you hurt yourself the most. Never punish the innocent.
2. The last scene when he shows up - The tug at the dupatta right when she is about to go towards Garima, sign of things to come. He is not ready to forgive Garima yet. Him moving away from Khushi, a resolute stand that he needs to be heard, he can't be weak, he can't just give in. He needs to say what's on his mind. The scene has yet to play out completely so not counting my chickens yet. Now will he ask Khushi to choose him over her amma? or will he accept her with the baggage and work towards forgiving Garima? or will he simply walk away? Yet to be seen.
3. Loved NK and Nani. NK the true friend and the only sane one. Nani - a true mother, her "bitiya" for Khushi and confidence that Chotey will be there, only one who is the true witness of their love, only one who knows they can't live without each other.

I really didn't care much for the flashbacks probably I was too distracted by the rash driving. It would've been nice if they were shown while he was in the garden or had a moment to himself in his car. Honestly, the flashbacks seemed more like an ode to Lalit Mohan and after today's events, I might not be completely off-base here 😆

As for Off-screen theatrics, this is all I have to say:



Maybe. Maybe not. Keep checking FB, TWITTER, SBS/B, TELLY BUZZ/TADKA/CHASKA MATKA/FATKA, NEWBIES/ OLDBIES AND EVERY OTHER BIE IN BETWEEN. IF I DON'T QUIT TOMORROW, CHECK BACK IN 15 DAYS.

Ghalib chacha said:

baazeechaa-e-atfaal hai duniya mere aage
hota hai shab-o-roz tamaasha mere aage


[ baazeechaa = play/sport, atfaal = children ]

Honestly...this PH needs some serious PR help pronto! spare us the theatrics. Work on your product, your credibility is in question as it is, these offline bitch fights, publicity stunts and self-indulgence attitude doesn't help you or anyone for that matter. Seriously, Cut it!
Shouldn't your energy be more focused on the life cycle of the product? Haven't you learned anything from your mistakes? Work on a graceful exit. Longevity without quality is meaningless.

Sahir Ludhianvi said it best:

vo afsaanaa jise takamiil tak laanaa na ho mumkin
use ek Khuubasuurat mod dekar chhodna achchhaa
Edited by joenet1234 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hello Sari and SG's!

Sari: Wonderful wonderful post and i absolutely loved it! You outdid yourself today😃

Good episode again today keeping up the drama quotient; fantastic performances once again. Sanaya was excellent today as well and even Barun was in great form today. While I did not care much for the scream and special effects, from the moment he fell on his knees and broke down to the end of the episode he was fantastic⭐️⭐️.

Khushi continues with her atoot vishwas that he will come; and she was right. He did come and it is just for her. I loved how she refused to budge despite repeated requests from her family and they even threw in an unnecessary slap. What's with all this slapping of an adult women; ASR pins her to the wall and pushes her around is domestic violence, so how come a full blow slap does not qualify as violence😕😕? Khushi's FB's and telepathy moment when she senses that he is in danger was well done; the way she jumped up and ran calling out his name, the way NK had to bring her back to her senses, her disappointment and disbelief at realizing the fire was extinguished and he still was not here and her dead like walk away all gut wrenching to see a young bride crumble like this.

Absolutely loved Nani today; my respect for this character grows day by day. When she said "humari bacchi" and goes to hug, console and reassure Khushi was one of my favorite moments today. She is the only one who has shown concern for both Arnav and Khushi's feelings through this whole fiasco👍🏼. She will be a vital link to their future relationship.

My heart broke for Arnav today, his breakdown and his FB of his scene with his mother. How can you expect an emotionally weak and broken boy who has been so close to his mother, who was so devastated by her death that life stopped at that moment for him to just get up and move on😭😭? I think the scene was vital on 2 levels: one it showed that even as a young boy Arnav could not stand anything hurting his mom and second ofcourse the significance of the rose and thorn and of not punishing the innocent person, or hurting the one you love and who loves you. It was after that FB that he walked determined towards his Khushi. Absolutely loved the car drive; his changing expressions, his journey down memory lane of moments defined their relationship right from their first meeting to her falling off the cliff. Poignant FB's that showed how much each moment spent with her is cherished and remembered❤️❤️.

He came back for her; he took his mother's blessings and went to bring home his bride👍🏼. We will see significant flashes of the ASR in him rise from time to time; he will shy away from the Guptas and even Khushi for sometime but he can never hate her. I do not even think he will ask Khushi to break ties with Garima; he knows what family means to Khushi. I think in his last cliff hanger scene he is being honest that he came back for her but his heart is currently filled with pain, hate and betrayal; he does not have the answers yet and his past demons are facing him head-on. If she can accept him with all his baggage he is ready to marry her. I think Khushi will consent to the wedding happily because she believes in their love and in him and he came through for her today, there will be no more contracts and hate; it is just going to be pain, conflict and true love.

While I can deal with all this on-screen drama, the off screen drama is taking a toll. Why the hell did LM return for just 15 days and why make a big deal about his return? At least he confirmed that the Friday scene was consummation, so much for sex being different from lovemaking😆😆. Why is Zee_News hell bent on claiming that Barun is quitting when reliable sources including Barun have confirmed otherwise.

Edited by meens80 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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HI Sari,

It's a wonder how you keep up the good spirits of this thread and bring objectivity to every episode good or bad. I hope in real life you do the same for all your loved ones. God bless.

I had thought of pinging you individually but since I have several pals on this thread I thought I'd speak my mind here itself. This is my resignation letter , if you please.

I have watched this show for 16 months with such emotion, passion and fervor. Never missed a single epi. even when travelling and have spent late nights and work hours checking the forum for updates. This is a huge complement to the makers of the show and the leads who have bought Arnav & Khsuhi to life. I have lived day in and day out with this show and the butt of joke in my family for my silliness. I have given this show so many chances and tolerated butchering of characters and simply turn my eye when Khushi is humiliated or made to look silly and when Arnav is turned illogical and brainless. It is high time I took a step back to check as to - am I enjoying this or just doing this because it has become a habit. Am I worried that my evenings will no longer include the forum girls and long discussions ?

Coz SGs - I really am getting depressed with this negative energy. This onslaught has to stop and I mean the way the show has been going. It is not doing any good , neither to the trps or to the audience who expected a different prem kahani. Yes indeed it is different coz love happens in spurts – today there tomorrow gone !!! Shyam , Anajali , dadi have no justification or ramification of their deeds and now Arnav & Khushi who I worry about the most so in love are moving towards yet another strained relation. Understand the theme of the show et al but when will character growth happen ? When will Arnav stop oscillating between love and hate and think like a man . And when will Khushi take a stand and to say "Arnavji I beg to differ from your attitude". When will I see anything POSITIVE happen that makes me believe in A lovestory.

It is too much to ask tomorrow for Arnav to say - Khushi I did not know how our pasts were connected when I fell in love with you . I do not have a big heart as yours to forgive people as you have forgiven me and I cannot promise if I can respect your mother but I can try to learn about forgiveness from you . I love you and want you in my life forever. Take me as I am.

Is it too much to ask of Khushi to say - Arnavji I may not completely understand your past and your pain but I do understand how you have missed your mother and what she means to you . You may not want to listen to Garima's story right now but we can give it time so that these wounds can heal As long as we are together we will be fine.
But hey that is my SKD , will anything sensible happen in IPK – Never. Will the show come to an end if the couple unite – I don't think so but some do And Will Dadi & Shyam get away scott free – Most definitely. My ONLY hope at this time is that maybe his mother has shown him the way he was looking for – Why blame the rose for the thorns !!!
Ladies, if tomorrow there is a Hate marriage or a marriage with a sense of duty or obligation and if Khushi is humiliated again and if Arnav becomes a ruthless man laying conditions…. I will take a break from the show for a couple of days . This negativity is getting to me and I cannot see Arnav and Khushi hating each other any more – Not after 350 episodes. There needs to be a balance as we really watch the show for entertainment.
Maybe the producers should really setup an end date and complete the story they started rather than dragging it. This way we can let go and so can the actors , directors and other curatives who serve in their papers every now and then.

Hope to see you all tomorrow but so far what I saw of the last scene it does not look very promising. Love and wishes to you ladies and let me see if I can keep my vrat of staying away.

Apologies if I maligned the thread with my sad thoughts.

Love to all.

Edited by premparbat - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Rocking post Sari!

You have summarized the episode in such a beautiful and positive manner!

Seeing the ending part I was depressed, with Arnav's expressions and his moving back from Khushi's touch. But after reading your interpretation, I am feeling much better now!

You are awseome Girl! 👏 👏 ⭐️ ⭐️
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This episode was brilliant and the worst compared to yesterday.

Brilliant because the Cvs have us wrapped around their little finger and we fools sit at the edge of our seats and watch this satyanash unfold while our emotions turn into wet tissue paper.

Worse because of its unpredictability, tension and extreme drama that makes us stress and worry about this all day long!

Although the episode was fab story wise, what made it even more difficult to watch and take it all in was all the rumours, negativity and assumptions floating around the forum. One cannot help withdraw into their peetal bartan.

Anyway onto the episode.

  • Chotte Chotte is so cute. He has anger management issues since the beginning, poor little thing couldn't even break that gamla and now he goes around breaking benches and chairs for fun.😆
  • Mama Malik teaches Big Chotte an important lesson, to never blame someone who isn't at fault. And he listens! Yay! I knew you wouldn't break Khushi bharosa! Jao. Go get her... This is trigger enough to send the boy back to the mandap after he realises Khushi doesn't deserve to suffer for any of this.
  • Khushi babes still adamant and perched at the mandap waiting for Arnav. Even amongst all of this, she doesn't let Amma blame herself. Buaji slaps Khushi. Why does this girl always gets slapped on her shaadi? Anokhi poor girl. I really feel for her cheek.😕

  • Arnav drives around like a madman, I tried to drive like that too it looked fun but the guy across the road told me to NSTS.😕..Only Arnav Singh Raizada can drive like that, he must own that part of the road probably..🤓

  • The flashback were awesomely done. Although it was obvious he was going to crash, since he was distracted and not concentrating on the road. Chotte's personal TV. No wonder he goes for thinking drives. The SUV must have a 60 inch built in it...

  • Khushi's dil ka signal warns her Chotte is in danger and she runs. And my blood freezes over, Please Cvs let Chotte be safe. For Khushi ok...Don't do the shaadi se pehle widow bakwas and on Chotte's funeral she grows a baby.. My saasein will rukh...

  • Chotte opens his eyes and fandom relaxes. Don't ever do this again Cvs. We still haven't recovered from kidnapping.😲

  • Khushi looking lifeless walks away from the mandap, till Amma calls her back only to have someone tug onto her dupatta. And it is our Chotte! Covered in blood, which makes him look oddly hot.😳

  • The khushi on Khushi's face reflects the khushi on our face till Chotte moves away from her touch. Uuugh... Go back Chotte! I changed my mind. Then he says the line which makes our already frozen blood freeze again 10x over...😲

  • There is another part to his dialogue. Cvs are deliberately making chutney out of our dimaag and feelings. He is back for Khushi because he loves her. Thanks to Mishti who saved a lot of dard yesterday, we know there is a Shaadi, so, Khushi will never marry him if he hates her. So reserving judgement till tomorrow and bharosa in Chotte is still intact.😃

Two Vms. One was requested by Mandy. The other was my peetal bartan today, So it is very long. I put two songs together for that to keep distracted. So there are parts of it that are badly edited and mismatched. Forgive. Oh Watch in HD.😃


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f2FoqLJIho[/YOUTUBE]

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Edited by ipkbs - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Awesome post. Loved the way you depicted and analysed ASR's flashback scenes while driving back to Khushi. I am so waiting for tomorrows episode and I am sure love will trimph.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ok.. This one is for Sari yet again ⭐️ I am so overwhelmed. Thank you.

Agree with you all on fronts. Too dramatized and probably that's why felt like a filler at times.

Nani and NK loved both of them.

Really I see more inside Arnavs thought after I read your post. He had a very cold look like the darker episodes and it kinda scared me.

I hope he does not impose any condition on Khushi. Yesterday we got worried as we thought he will come back because they consummated their relationship. Thankfully, today we saw that was not the case. He loves her and came back for her. Please don't make him an idiot and make Khushi choose between Amma or Arnav.
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Sari I am not a regular visitor here but when I read thru ur post...I was content my friend...made me love my characters even more...U made me and I believe many others understand ASR as a battered soul yearning for that lost love and Khushi his only salvation.I do not know what will happen tomorrow..but today was a beautifully portrayed emotional day.

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