24/8 Dragon Club :Hum Aapke Hai Kaun ?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Fire+Water Symbolism and Loop-Closure in Yesterday's Episode
Yesterday there was a terrific loop closure shown by the CVs which none of us could guess yesterday
Last time Yash's life was in danger ..Aarti goes to dargah to save him ..Its raining(water)..So she walks path of fire and saves Yash ..Then she has her love realisation when she was on her verge of loosing him 😳 ...
Now in Mumbai Aarti's life was in danger ...Geyser blasts when Yash puts on the pipe(water) ,So he walks the path of fire and saves Aarti .. Then Yash has his realisation of Arpita is dead and can never return while Aarti is his present wife
Both times there is one common factor used Water+Fire which results in Yash and Aarti successfully saving each other ...In Arpita's case she died in rain (water) , there was no fire 😉 ...Moral of the story is AarYa relationship is provided the balance and compatibility by Almighty in the form of two powers Fire+Water which r sort of protecting them and bringing them close to each other 😳😳
Here is what the combo of Fire+Water says : FIRE-WATER: These two signs much be careful when interacting--water can put out fire, but if the fire is large enough it can dry up water completely. Water can provide sensitivity and patience to his fiery counterpart, whereas Fire can provide motivation and the courage to act that the Water sign usually lacks. In order for a relationship to work, Fire and Water need to have a great deal of respect because each has the capability to destroy the other.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ (Thanks to Deeps for this Fire+Water Discovery)
CVs had a very good vision here even if they goofed up a bit in execution 😊

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Kudos to CVs for taking the most unusual route of psychiatric help 👏👏👏👏,,,In fact this is the most realistic route which can b taken in Yash's case because mostly mills and boons love stories show their male leads doing all sort of physical abuse on female leads and girls go saying OMG .. I m glad Mittals dint follow the route and r actually going for a more realistic approach which might not find many takers initially as noone will want to see a hot actor given psychiatric help but if CVs can take the whole track in a realistic way by showing Yash being given medical councelling for all his psychological stress then PV will definitely create a good example in terms of actually giving out a realistic social msg ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️...
I know things will again go down to TRPs in the end and if Viewers reject this track , we might see Yash soon becoming normal and falling for Aarti which majority wants 😆 but if TRPs hold on , then I can see lots of potential in this unusual track .,. so lets see what the TRP baba says 😆 .,. Its a risky and dicey track and can go either way 😊
Yash's Anger and Madness is what he has bottled in his heart in all these 4 years ...He is mourning for not able to save his Arpita for second time in a row for which he holds Aarti responsible
Yash's anger is based on what he has bottled up in his heart in all these 4 yrs .. all that Arpita world he had built in his imagination came crushing down in Mumbai suddenly because of Aarti ... Even then he thought ok Aarti's life is much more important than these photos of Arpita and he even said that to Aarti .. in fact in that flashback he almost admitted that Aarti is his wife and her life is more important 😳 but when Aarti told him its her fault , he goes in extreme mode simply because suddenly he feels this is the second time he could not save Arpita and simply watch her burn into ashes because of someone else's fault . ... First time Arpita died in car crash in front of his eyes and second time her belongings burnt down in fire because of Aarti ... He is almost mourning the death of his wife Arpita here for the second time for which he holds Aarti responsible ... For us Arpita photos r just papers but for Yash its actually a life reason why he needs psychiatric help to make him realise the difference between real and abstract 😊
So Gayatri last week was right in her assumption when she said last time she saw Yash in this condition when he lost Arpita ...So basically Yash is mourning over the death of Arpita again because he feels he lost her today for the second time

Yash was not really angry with Aarti right after fire incident .. He was cool and calm and even admitted that Aarti's life holds more importance than these lifeless photos 😳...He even went on to almost say that Aarti is his wife ... In fact Aarti was so overwhelmed there with Yash's confession that she thought she can tell him its her mistake ... this is where Aarti made the blunder

Moment Aarti said its her mistake to keep geyser on , Yash's mind assumed that Aarti almost planned this destruction of Arpita ...Yash started thinking "here I considered Aarti's life more important than these pictures .. here I almost accepted her as my wife .. but she is plotting against my Arpita " ... This made him mad and he looses it completely ...This is where he needs treatment because he needs to realise how can Aarti destroy someone who is not even alive ... 😊
Actually Yash always got irritated with Aarti's carelessness .. remember in initial episode her chappals in middle irritated him 😆...she used to keep towel on bed which irritated him 😆..So Yash was quite possessive for every small thing in his room and here it was the question of Arpita's belongings which got destroyed because of Aarti's careless attitude ..so for us it might look silly but for Yash its almost like loosing a life
So I think its a good way to show Yash's transformation and healing with a proper psychiatric help and I hv full faith on Daddy Scindia after today's episode .. He is going to support Aarti because now he knows Aarti is not responsible for Yash's condition 😃 ...Yash himself is responsible for his own condition because for last 4 yrs he considered Arpita alive in his illusionary world which Aarti finally broke and made him realise Arpita is dead ... So the loss of Arpita is finally sinking into Yash which he is not able to take it and has lost his mental balance which is evident the way he runs out of the house and keeps running , because he dunno from whom he is running ..from life or from death ?? ... Its a stage where he needs not only psychiatric treatment but true love, guidance and peace of mind 😊...
I dunno what role will Aarti play in all this but she needs to play a cruicial role here in Yash's treatment 😊...But first it remains to b seen how Yash reacts in hospital once he regains consciousness 😊
Yash's Marathon Run towards Destruction
I wonder if there is a connection between Yash running on treadmill in tuesday's episode and Yash runinng on the road today 🤔 .. In both cases Yash wanted to punish himself ...
When he was running on treadmill ,he was running at the same place , going nowhere and in the end he falls down ... So today instead of running on treadmill he thinks of running bare foot on the road so that he can reach to some destination rather than running at same place but even then he could not reach anywhere , he just kept running and running till he probably fell again and was admitted in hospital 😭... in both cases he tried to run away from life , but life is not ready to leave him ...Its high time Yash starts respecting life 😊...
CVs need to stop treating Aarti like a doormat
Now this is one complain I hv in otherwise good episode 😊...I dont understand why suddenly Aarti has again become a doormat in Scindia mansion ..almost like a punching bag for Bua and Gayatri ,...I liked the way Daddy Scindia asked Bua to shut up and then peace will automatically come in 😆 but I hope Aarti grows a spine now and just walks off from the house 😡
I do feel for Aarti because she just cannot see her husband going further down in self-destruction mode and so she is helplessly wanting to be with him even if she gets all the blasting from her sasuma ,..But Aarti needs to realise that Yash has everyone with him who will help him out .. she just needs to stay away from him for few days and let things take its natural coarse of time and healing 😊...
Overall I found the episode quite interesting as I always wanted to see someone suggesting a psychiatric help for Yash and finally its happening .. 😊...Last but not the least Gurmeet was exceptional in the whole running scene ...I think this week he did give his best performance till date in PV ..so hats off 👏👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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An average episode for me.


Yash , a flawed man definitely not a hero. Instead of sharing few words of concern with his kids' mother he is busy grieving the loss of futile things. Why so much importance to materialistic things? Are Arpita's memories so below par? Secondly , as far as her pics are concerned , he has same bundle of 'materials' in his home too. WHy is the cry all about? For her belongings? And where does lie the importance of Aarti's life? He definitely saved her , but why did there lie 'double thoughts' regarding his choice? Aarti's statement that if he didn't have her to save , he could have saved Arpita's memories! This reflected her immense pain & her realization that 'because of HER he could not save Arpita's memories'. The exaggeration & over stretched emotions simply irks me.

Then came the role reversal , "who is the culprit now" ! What right did Yash hold to scold her when he knew it was his mistake that he didn't get the wiring work done on time. People DO leave geysers on! Its just a fortuity , rather a wish of nature that Arpi's things got destroyed. Their time was over.

P.S. If this is the reason of his anger , which I certainly hope is not Than Im truly disappointed with the team.


I don't appreciate the discovery of Aarti's presence in Yash-Arpita's pic. That only suggests how AarYa are destined to be together with all the natural forces blessing them. Where is the 'reality quotient' ? Why complicating a second marriage theme & scaring people hell out of them with the concept of second marriage?


Gayu , a typical 'filmy maa' . I truly detested her today. As Im saying since day one , she is neither an out n out vamp nor is she a Tulsi Virani. She is a puppet in some powerful hands . When the story takes some drastic changes , the plots always reveal more of her character , how is she selflessly concerned ONLY with her blood. At present both Yash & Aarti are crying , both are in pain but she is concerned only with her son. Both got hurt , but Aart's pain doesn't bother her. And her remark today , "Why worried about Aarti instead of Yash" , Im scared what message would it preach !


Maya is a witch & SP honestly knows it. To what extent does one's enviousness takes her? Is the weight of jealousy & covetousness so bulky that you cant tolerate happiness of your kins? Maya is a lecher & a confined despaired soul who is taking pleasures in snatching happiness of others which never acknowledged her. Ironically the only man (except for Aarti) who somewhat discerns her plans is the one who is her culprit.


The only part I loved today was a beautiful symbolism. Yash & Aarti's invisible bond : As the distance between them will increase , their pain & misery will increase. Yash was running from her & he landed up in hospital.


P.S. I cant feel contented with anything that is going around . I need a satisfying episode soon. 😔

Edited by shubhika124 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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PUNAR VIVAAH AT AN INTENSE BREAK

So far (excluding Mumbai trip ) Aarti and Yash were juzz a couple under the name of Punar Vivaah for kids...But Mumbai track is the one which made the story / Aarya's life to unfold !! Both Aarti and Yash had lots of fun whole heartedly...we can see the liveliness and the actual personalities of Aarti and Yash !! But a few consequences made yash to drown into mental stress where the outcome was, finally he landed up in the hospital and doctor declared...he needs a Psychiatric Help !!

K Now I wonder Whats the role of Aarti now ??

I appreciate Mittals for taking this path...But the further story of yash mental illness was a bit complex to analyze...!! I really really don't want them to opt Memory loss track !! I knew Mittals never follow the same old usual tracks...but still I hope they don't !! If at all it happens...I really wonder what would be Aarti's role ??? If he totally forget the past and juzz start a new life with Aarti...that doesn't look effective...Love must happen...but not in this way without any past memories !! And its not good for Aarti after all !! Yash should love her by cherishing his past memories !!

Other case : If yash juzz remembers his life with Arpita and rest was gone !! Even at that stage Aarti has to suffer !! How about Aarti's existence ?? So I really don't want Mittals to go with this memory loss...!! Juzz if they try to show like yash undergoing counselling and come out of his stress, feel relaxed and try to realize himself that his past love was dead and move on with the present...that would be good for Aarti and Yash I feel !!

And I feel PS play a crucial role in Aarya's life now !! He was star of the episode !! Love the way he made Boa shut 😆 Well done PS !!👏

Actual reason was not yet known...

I think we might watch few flashbacks !! The fire accident scene and aarti admitting her mistake with yash made him burst out into anger but I dont think that is the actual reason...If that is the reason...Y do he break Arpita's stuff back in Bhopal ??? So something was left to know...!! So in the process of his counselling we may get to know the reason or else the only way is Yash has to SPEAK OUT !!

As per the latest interview of Mittals...It was proved that they never care for TRP's !! So I think they move on with this Pyschiatric help to justify yash anger !! But one thing I wanna say...the story was at its break now !! Since here after Aarya life gonna change !! Literally looking forward for the upcoming tracks...!!

Must mention...GC and KS were just splendid with their act !! 👏
Edited by cssudha - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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A funny yet good episode 😆 😃

So today we finally get to know teh real reason behind Yash's anger towards Aarti through another flashback to Vidhi...Aarti admitted to Yash that the fire broke out because left the geyser on witout any water in it <_< So yash blasts her for him losing all of Arpita's memories which is understandable to an addict liek Yash who has lost his drug because of Aarti's mistake (whcih could have happened to anyone)
In the present aarti tells Vidhi that her and Yash have a kismat connection and shows her the pic of Yash & arpita on their honeymoon with Aarti in the background...while Cas tries to get Yash to tell him what's bothering him, all Yash replies he that he'll have to suffer forever and starts running out the house 🤢🤢🤢
Aarti runs behind him (WHY???) but she falls and insists to Pratik to keep running...Yashbabu is running barefoot like a madman
Everyone at home is worried and want to know WTH happened to Yash and once again that witch Maya says to get Aarti out of the house and they would find peace 😡😡😡 my sly fox SP comes to the rescue again and shuts her up by saying "Shut up or they would find peace automatically" meaning she'll be the one to shown the door 😉👏👏
Pratik finally calls SP and tell him to get to the hospital ASAP...Aarti wanna go but the witches boa & G3 stop her 😡😡😡😡...Aarti is crying and she prays to God (don't worry Dear he never lets his devotees down) 😊
So SP, Pratik, G3 & the witch reach the hospital and see Yash unconscious...they wanna know what is wrong with him, Pratik says not to worry that Yash is fine physically according to the doc he's just going through mental stress that's why they are giving him glucose (sugar IV)
Aarti being herself didn't listen and ends up at the hospital but hides so noone sees her, Pratik does and she asks him not to tell anyone (that's my girl) 😛 😃
Boa once again blames aarti for Yash's condition...SP not liking what he's hearing gives her the angry look 😆😆
Precap: Finally Yash is going to get the medical attention he needed all those years ago...The doc tells them that Yash's illness is mental so he needs a psychatric help 👏👏
Edited by Zetter - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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sach mein marathon race was going on...😆😆

loved it...aare yaar how mant time yash bimar hooga...now being a lady aarti ek baar bhi bimar nahi hui...😆😆
now cvs pls aarti ko bimar ka do...😆😆
ok...lolzz apart...i loveddd the epi...
Edited by ArHi_JeeVi - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Nice title!!!
Terrific Fire Water take.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Jyo: Awesome perception on yesterday's loop closure Dear 👍🏼👏👏
thanks very much for the sybolisms of Water-Fire and who they work within a relationship 😉
That describe AarYa very welll 😳😃
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Today's episode was like a mega loop closure for me. From the very first days of seeing all those Arpita photos on the walls of Yash's room, and then seeing his OCD, and then finally seeing him today running across the city road like a mad man … we people in this Forum have for long been saying "Yash needs psychiatric help!" Finally we have come to that very point of the story, where all the hungama of the past few episodes has culminated in the doctor declaring to Yash's parents and family that he needs therapy.

Today in fact Yash was almost totally out of his mind to the point of being best described as a raving maniac. Running barefoot on road after road, not knowing where he was going but just having to go somewhere to lose the ghastly voices and tortures in his head. It was some superb acting by Gurmeet the actor, but it was difficult to watch the ragged and desperate condition of the character Yash.

Today I want to set my theme for this analysis as the "BREAKING POINT". Yash seems to have finally been broken fully in mind and body. He has reached a point of no return. From now he can go only in one direction, fortunately. And that is towards a better future when he can hope to lose his mental bogies and emerge saner, safer and more of a man. But there will be a long and slow journey to make from this breaking point towards the rosier futur, so we viewers will have to go through the upcoming episodes, seeing daily some very gradual signs of Yash getting back his mind and heart.

There are four points I want to make today about this state Yash is in, this "breaking point" … it looks like it is his problem, but in fact his breaking point is breaking everybody else also!

1. What was the real cause of this breaking point in Yash? Do we yet have the full answers? Have we got the full explanation of why Yash has thus erupted after the Mumbai trip?

We saw a flashback today of Yash and Aarti trying to salvage the ruined photos and things of Arpita in Mumbai when suddenly Aarti admits she forgot to switch off the geyser and that has sparked off the fire. That sent Yash into a spin. He looked like his anger was reaching a climax and he started talking as if he as blaming Aarti for the loss of the Arpita memories. But even so, it has still not answered the question why he then started destroying Arpita's memories in Bhopal? Is Yash a half-lunatic guy now, one moment wanting to preserve Arpita's memories and the next minute himself destroying her memories? And when Aarti was doing a bit of self-talk today, she herself referred to the fact that she still was not sure what she has done to make Yash so angry. I'd say we all still have not got the ful picture of the reasons for Yash's anger … his anger at Aarti, his anger at himself and his anger at Arpita all seem mixed up in him, and we viewers may get to know the real truth only when the psychiatrist himself gets to the bottom of this whole saga of Yash's tortured mind.

2. What is the state of the family? Have they reached breaking point too? Who is already a basket case and who is the one with the ability to endure this mess?

Gayatri and the Bua look like they have reached the end of the tether themselves. Vidhi, Pankaj and Pratik seem to be on the fence, neither blaming Aarti nor actually absolving her of the blame. All that the family members seem to know is that somehow the face of Aarti seems to make Yash completely keel over with mad anger. I did not like the way Gayatri so blatantly blames Aarti, but I can feel for her as a mother. Not knowing what is wrong with Yash is killing her. All she knows at this moment is to somehow keep Aarti away from Yash because the sight of her makes him go ballistic. Gayatri seems herself to have no options but to phsyically, mentally, emotionally and even painfully to somehow push Aarti out of Yash's range. But the redeeming personality in all this is the Casanova. Today again it was his day. He was able to shut up the Bua and not join in Gayatri's castigation of Aarti. He too is a doting father who is very worried about his son. He was devastated to hear of Yash being in hospital, especially after the way he shouted at his father and then ran away in a frightful fit of madness. But the Casanova stopped short of holding Aarti as responsible for Yash's condition. In the coming epsiodes I have a feeling that the part the Casanova plays is going to be critical to the marriage of Yash and Aarti remaining intact after all the intense pressure it is now going through from all sides.

3. Will Yash have a complete change of heart here? Will he awaken a different man? Or will he lose his memory? Will he forget either Arpita or Aarti?

It is in scenes like the one we had today that the whole story of the serial may have reached some kind of breaking point. As I saw Yash lying in hospital, dazed and dozing, I started wondering all kinds of things: Will he wake up soon or will he stay unconscious for longer? Will he have amnesia when he wakes up? Will he recognise himself, or Aarti? Will he forget his past life or his present life? I have a feeling that depending on what Yash's state is when he wakes up, the whole story track could change. The precap shows the doctor saying "He has endured intense stress and has had some kind of psychotic episode. He needs psychiatric therapy." That suggests to me that when Yash wakes up he is not going to be his previous self definitely. My past experience with serials seems to suggest to me that he may have some kind of a memory loss. I am not sure if the Mittals will take things in this direction. If he forgets his days with Arpita, he may well start leaning on Aarti as his soulmate for his psychological recovery. If on the other hand he forgets his marriage to Aarti, he may regress back to an even more severe form of Arpita-hanging-on. If he wakes up without a memory loss but in desperate need of psychiatric counselling, it could well mean that Aarti may be sent back to the Dubeys to keep her out of Yash's sight till he shows some signs of healing. Anything can happen, but in which new direction, is the question.

4. What is the condition of Aarti? What should she do now? Unfortunately Yash's breaking point may also become Aarti's breaking point? Her mind is not too stable now either!

What will be the condition and immediate future fate of Aarti is going to depend heavily on what Yash behaves like when he wakes up. Who knows – the family may well decide that Aarti needs to be separated from Yash for his own good. Alternatively, the doctor may well say that Aarti will be needed in Yash's life because she is crucial to his recovery. The pendulum for Aarti may swing either way. In fact if Yash has some sort of memory loss (as a result of his intense stress) and if due to this he "forgets his days wth Arpita" and clings on to Aarti, there is still going to be no satisfaction for Aarti. To have the love of a man who is close to her only because he cannot remember his past is no good for Aarti. She is now in a very emotionally and psychologically vulnerable state herself as she loves him quite intensely. She may not herself be able to withstand having Yash love her through his amnesia only to lose Yash again when he regains his memory. And again, if Yash has forgotten Aarti and is in an exclusive Arpita-memory mode, then too Aarti gains no satisfaction. Aarti's situation is at this moment completely in the handsof Yash and his family. In their desperation to cure Yash they may all break Aarti to pieces.

All in all, I felt as if today was a critical episode that can change the direction of the story and the marriage into a new kind of track where both Yash and Aarti may have to go through some "psychological" tests of fire. From now for at least a few more weeks it may not be the story of the Yash-Aarti marriage we are going to see. We may instead have to see some kind of "individualized recovery phase" when Yash and Aarti separately have to find their way back to some kind of a normal human stability. The marriage is at a standstill. It will have to be kept in the background till the two characters recover. Today everything looks like a wreck. Let's see how the able doctor can heal Yash slowly and how Aarti also heals in the process.

Edited by skanda12 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Jyoti, you are right about loop closure and their connection with fire + water...
Loved the title, hope they take time in finding this quest of Yash. Don;t want them to rush atleast this track. His realization is highlight of PV..
Now her presense at their honeymoon, so was she married too at the time. What was she doing there, were they on honeymoon too and did her and Prashant got in a fight. Did Yash witness, abusive behaviour of Prashant towrads her?? That will make it little bit cliche kind of track but lets see what they have in mind😛
Edited by bbbccc - 13 years ago

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