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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: saathiya1


Well said you have echoed my thoughts... if hetal needs brains to think how she is being manipulated then kokila also needs to stop being dominating all times...


@bips

@bold - yes kokila stopped hetal from defending gopi... why ? reasons -

1 - Hetal, she lets go off the mistakes, she will not try to teach .. this wrong..this is right ...u have to do like this... she never says that... all she says is "javadena " short term , that is fine... but in the long term it ruins the child's future... when no one is around the kid will be lost ... without no proper training from hetal... it is the duty of the elders to rectify and teach the kids..

2.. koki knows about hetal's javadena attitude ... so she did not let her deal with gopi or kinjal... because koki wants to train them how to do things correctly...she will prepare a kid for future... she takes the kids mistakes as a task, punishes them, makes them realize and teaches them to avoid such mistakes in future... i don't see that in hetal...

if u see one please let me know



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we all agree, how kokila takes up the responsibilities of the whole MM... she makes decisions from breakfast to dinner... laundry bill to electricity bill...any minor puja to a big event...

in such a situation responsibilities demand a person to be authoritative and stick by decisions which is usually termed as being rude and control freak...and being dominating...

If being firm in your decisions is termed as being dominating... neither koki , nor i have no objection... because at the end of the day she needs to see everything is done properly and everyone are comfortable in the house

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: saathiya1


Well said you have echoed my thoughts... if hetal needs brains to think how she is being manipulated then kokila also needs to stop being dominating all times...


You really think Hetal's behavior is normal? I understand if she is upset with Kokila or disagrees with her. However it's not normal to be so passive aggressive and give her some pseudo cold shoulder and not tell Kokila that there is a problem. This is behavior I would expect from a teenager or a newlywed wife/husband towards her/his spouse. Hetal is Kokila's bhabhi for crying out loud. Communication should not be this big of a problem...

She could have taken Kokila aside and told her that Rashi is her problem and she'll deal with her and Kokila should look after Gopi and Ahem.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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let me give you an instance... few days back meethi asked everyone whats to be done for lunch and kokila said malai kofta because ahem likes it... i did not see her asking her motabhabhi... rashi said she would like to cook paneer kadai also, kokila replied why make 2 sabzis the same day... she asked rashi to make it later... she could have given a chance to rashi to make paneer kadai that day and she could have made malai kofta the other day for her ahem dikra... when you are in a joint family you should also give chances to others and bend a little...

i just happened to see few beginning episode where ahem was called by his ba to be home early and that happened to be his day for chandla (ceremony before engagement), she was mad at BA and hetal for this... she did not like it a bit that hetal/BA had asked her son to come home without her permission...she has told hetal to keep away from her son's matter... this is not how you talk or behave with your elder sister-in-law or mother in law...you cannot be in demanding nature all the time is what my point is...

recently she punished ahem for helping rashi and jigar and got mad at gopi when she learnt that gopi made ahem do it... she threatened gopi that she will be thrown out of the house if this happens again... and made her vow to never let ahem interfere (no doubt they were wrong in helping rashi) but when does helping your family becomes samaj seva and why cant a wife share her issues with his husband... and how is gopi a hindrance in ahem's career... its beyond my understanding maybe people agree to her... but everything cannot be solved by being strict she could have talked to both of them together and brought out her views rather than dictate... this is my point of view, she wants to be on the top...

when gopi wanted to study she never agreed to it immediately... because she thought it was not required, she did not encourage her...she was against hetal and chirag for this...she required a lot of convincing to agree...there was some issue with the breakfast one day (cant remember exactly the issue )and she got mad at gopi saying it was because of her studies that everything went haywire.. poor gopi she felt guilty that her studies created issues in the house...

she has been handling all puja, functions etc but she likes to do things her way and doesnt like anyone else to take decisions...hetal has always been a soft person... she has never been authoritative...she always agrees to everyone and thats hetal's biggest mistake... she is at fault right now too for being so soft with rashi...

there is no problem with kokila being mad with rashi and keeps suspecting her... but she needs to play her cards well... she needs to calm down a little in her nature is what i have to say, no one is ideal in this world.. which holds true for kokila too...

no offence to anyone... everyone has their own view points... !!!

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dhabu89

Where is Munni when I/we need her 😕 No bashing of my Koki please. She is the good guy. She is not the one doing kalakari to hurt or split or even maim anyones name...she is just a strong willed person who knows how to take charge of a situation and she also knows her older SIL is too much of a softie and so she takes all the work on her shoulders...remember the most important thing with all this work she is shouldering...if anyone complains she gets it, not Mota Bhabhi...that is her intention always...Koki is the best. She is the ultimate MIL, MOM, SIL etc...


Kokila is not perfect. However she is the best character on that show. Most women we see on TV are evil conspiring bahus or saas (Rashi and Urmila are examples from this show) or submissive punching bags (add in your own example here, haha). She is extremely strong and always has been. She is disciplined and strict but she has a kind heart and good intentions. Honestly, if Sonal was Jigar's wife, I doubt Kokila would have been this strict with her. If it wasn't for Kokila, Rashi would have taken over Modi Bhavan by now and Hetal probably would not have even realised it.

She can come off as overbearing with Ahem but even that makes sense. After all, she put so much energy and hopes into making Ahem a successful business man who can work with his uncle. If anything happens to Ahem regarding his job, Kokila has every right to be upset about it. If it was not for Kokila, Gopi would still be the weak girl she once was when she entered Modhi Bhavan.

As for butting in or backing off... Kokila speaks her mind and scolds Rashi for her own good and the family's own good, not to show that she is dominant or in charge. If Hetal did it, Kokila would not have to.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Seriously how can anyone say that kokila is not dominating ?

... i think my jaw dropped from shock when i heard her banning ahem from going to office ... WTH ????? ... is he 5 year old ? ... Does he need mummy's permission for everything ? ... Gopi and ahem had to give her thousand assurances for her to finally "allow" ahem to go to work ... How is this behaviour acceptable


As for the idea that koki is training her kids for a better future, let me ask you - Who is the more balanced out of the three - ahem, kinjal or jigar ... Jigar trumps the rude and inconsiderate kinjal anyday ... and he definitely better than the ass ahem was and wuss he is ... who raised jigar ? ... Hetal


Koki is not training her kids for a better future ... she only cares to train them to jump at her command ... God forbid ahem ever disagrees with her ... gold help poor gopi when she does anything that doesn't meet koki's approval ... For all those who are defending koki, just wait till ahem ever sides with gopi against koki ... then we will see all hell breaking loose ... All this "my gopi vahu is the besht" will be forgotten as gopi becomes enemy number 1.


As for hetal not doing any work ... ummm! when does hetal sit on a crown and eat grapes and order her harem around ? ... She is always working alongside with everybody else ... her only fault is that she never tried to enforce her "jethaani" status with koki ... and koki loved that ... she hated that her husband was not an important figure in the office, so she compensated by taking over the home ... There are a lot of times she completely pushes hetal aside or shrugs aside her ideas or opinions ... Just because hetal ceded authority doesn't mean that she has no ability to run the house ... There is not one "right" way of running the house ... one person can do it by picking on every small mistake and the other person can choose to do so with kindness and understanding ... Different people different leadership styles


... i am not defending rashi here ... or what she and her mom have planned ... i hate the fact that they are benefiting from it ... but hetal finding her own voice and koki backing off and giving everybody a breathing space in not necessarily a bad thing
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: bips

Seriously how can anyone say that kokila is not dominating ? Lots of people lol

... i think my jaw dropped from shock when i heard her banning ahem from going to office ... WTH ????? ... is he 5 year old ? ... Does he need mummy's permission for everything ? ... Gopi and ahem had to give her thousand assurances for her to finally "allow" ahem to go to work ... How is this behaviour acceptable

Once again, Kokila is not perfect. She did not know Ahem's side of the story and I can't remember how much of an effort Ahem made to get her to listen. She freaked out thinking that her son was getting lazy. It's a legitimate reaction in her case due to her insecurities over her husband and all the work she put into Ahem to make sure he is not like him.


As for the idea that koki is training her kids for a better future, let me ask you - Who is the more balanced out of the three - ahem, kinjal or jigar ... Jigar trumps the rude and inconsiderate kinjal anyday ... and he definitely better than the ass ahem was and wuss he is ... who raised jigar ? ... Hetal
This is an interesting question only because there are different answers to this. Each of the Modi children are ok in my opinion. All three are extremely different and have their own pros and cons. Kinjal was extremely immature in the beginning but has adjusted pretty well at her in laws and was very independent. Despite having a spoiled rich girl image, she is a better daughter in law than Rashi. Ahem is a hard worker and an introvert, but he has evolved for the better as well. I don't know how he was a wuss. Jigar is a sweetheart but honestly, he is not good at handling Rashi or anyone like her. Out of Ahem and Jigar, Ahem would have handled Rashi properly and put her, and kept her, in her place.


Koki is not training her kids for a better future ... she only cares to train them to jump at her command ... God forbid ahem ever disagrees with her ... gold help poor gopi when she does anything that doesn't meet koki's approval ... For all those who are defending koki, just wait till ahem ever sides with gopi against koki ... then we will see all hell breaking loose ... All this "my gopi vahu is the besht" will be forgotten as gopi becomes enemy number 1.
How is this different from any other mother in law who is self conscious that she is going to lose her son over her daughter in law? Once again, Kokila is not perfect and she'll need time to know that her son is not just her son anymore but someone's husband. Hetal would be extremely upset if Jigar sided with Rashi if there was a disagreement. Kokila would actually speak up though whereas Hetal would hold it in and suffocate until she exploded.


As for hetal not doing any work ... ummm! when does hetal sit on a crown and eat grapes and order her harem around ? ... She is always working alongside with everybody else ... her only fault is that she never tried to enforce her "jethaani" status with koki ... and koki loved that ... she hated that her husband was not an important figure in the office, so she compensated by taking over the home ... There are a lot of times she completely pushes hetal aside or shrugs aside her ideas or opinions ... Just because hetal ceded authority doesn't mean that she has no ability to run the house ... There is not one "right" way of running the house ... one person can do it by picking on every small mistake and the other person can choose to do so with kindness and understanding ... Different people different leadership styles
No one said she didn't do any work. But when it comes to making decisions, Kokila as just as much of a say (or more) as Hetal. Hetal doesn't take initiative but that was never a problem. Different households have different ways of running a house.

... i am not defending rashi here ... or what she and her mom have planned ... i hate the fact that they are benefiting from it ... but hetal finding her own voice and koki backing off and giving everybody a breathing space in not necessarily a bad thing ... Hetal having her own voice is a good thing. The problem is that she is not directly addressing her concerns to Kokila and is acting like a passive aggressive teenager. She can easily tell Kokila that she wants things to run differently, and because Hetal is the older one, Kokila will not dispute it even if she feels bad. But blaming Kokila for this is not fair either.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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^^ megustajalebi, different people, different perspectives, different opinions


but what i find most interesting is that whenever someone points out Koki's mistakes, its like "so she is not perfect" ... but whenever it comes to hetal - she is contipated/ needs to be slapped/ needs to be taught a lesson ...


So hetal is not perfect either ... she is a softie ... that is her shortcoming ... but people forget that if it was anyone else but hetal this house would have broken apart ... koki might keep everything in working order but hetall soothes peoples angers and emotions ... she tells people to let go and not make a big deal out of everything which koki loves to do ... it is because of hetal's soft nature that koki gets a free reign and some amount of satisfaction ... if it was anyone else, there would have been daily fights for authority


i'll personally pick hetal over koki anyday ...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: bips

^^ megustajalebi, different people, different perspectives, different opinions


but what i find most interesting is that whenever someone points out Koki's mistakes, its like "so she is not perfect" ... but whenever it comes to hetal - she is contipated/ needs to be slapped/ needs to be taught a lesson ...


So hetal is not perfect either ... she is a softie ... that is her shortcoming ... but people forget that if it was anyone else but hetal this house would have broken apart ... koki might keep everything in working order but hetall soothes peoples angers and emotions ... she tells people to let go and not make a big deal out of everything which koki loves to do ... it is because of hetal's soft nature that koki gets a free reign and some amount of satisfaction ... if it was anyone else, there would have been daily fights for authority


i'll personally pick hetal over koki anyday ...



Its so good to see someone speaking my mind...😊

And to be harsh and honest...this forum is really partial towards some characters.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: bips

^^ megustajalebi, different people, different perspectives, different opinions


but what i find most interesting is that whenever someone points out Koki's mistakes, its like "so she is not perfect" ... but whenever it comes to hetal - she is contipated/ needs to be slapped/ needs to be taught a lesson ...


So hetal is not perfect either ... she is a softie ... that is her shortcoming ... but people forget that if it was anyone else but hetal this house would have broken apart ... koki might keep everything in working order but hetall soothes peoples angers and emotions ... she tells people to let go and not make a big deal out of everything which koki loves to do ... it is because of hetal's soft nature that koki gets a free reign and some amount of satisfaction ... if it was anyone else, there would have been daily fights for authority


i'll personally pick hetal over koki anyday ...


I know it's different opinions and different perspectives but you started your response out with a question that I thought you wanted it answered lol and because you had a long response, I figured I would just break mine apart.

You can pick Hetal over Koki anyday and you're not the first. I don't think Hetal is a bad person, but she is being immature and not handling this well (being passive aggressive never solves anything, I thought people learned this by their late 20's). That's my opinion.

I don't think anyone expects Hetal to be perfect either, at least I didn't. However Kokila's imperfections (like stopping Ahem from going to work for two days) never had a bad effect on the family. Hetal's current imperfections and how she is handling this holds potential for affecting the family in a negative way and possibly causing a division. The problem is not that she is upset. The problem is that she is not communicating well with Kokila and solving this in a productive way

You're saying if this was anyone else and not Hetal, the house would have broken apart. The same can be said for Kokila. Hetal should be happy that Kokila, though strict, is understanding and nice. Otherwise she could have had an evil devrani who took advantage of her softie personality... just like how Rashi took advantage of Gopi earlier. If it wasn't for Kokila, Urmila and Rashi definitely would have taken over the house. Why else do you think they hate her so much?

Both balance each other out really well, but I wish Hetal would use logic and directly confront Kokila.

Edited by megustajalebi - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: BlackSonic



Its so good to see someone speaking my mind...😊

And to be harsh and honest...this forum is really partial towards some characters.


Don't worry, that wasn't harsh. I doubt this forum is the first to be partial towards some characters. And in this case it's expected with the title 😆

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