The glass is half empty or half full... - Page 12

Originally posted by: Teesha

Now that I am fully awake, and watched the episode properly with a working mind, What the??

I'm sorry but I will say today's episode, I saw the glass as half empty. After such a fabulous episode yesterday, what was today? It seemed like something was moving, till alas we hit square one. I stated elsewhere saving grace was ArHi scenes, I would kindly like to take my words back and say it was Mami😲 Her dialogues entertained me, especially the Manorma Bond😆

I will admit I saw Barun as sexy, and not Arnav I am not watching episodes in half sleep from now on nor am I rushing here to post Sadly, fully awake the romance was just😕 I saw what I wanted to in the morning, not what it was. Should have left it at that, stupid meI was like🤔 What the? If Mami can see them inside their room, isn't the poolside visible to all family members because of the glass window/door surroundings and from where Mami was standing it seemed like pool area was visible to everyone standing from there😕

Same comments about guest, and RM peeps. Wonder how many rasam's & taunting's left.

Some things from your post I would like to say about:

This bunch of crazy Arhi fans or show fans...has a huge rift that cannot be mended or amended...coz some of us have made up our minds that we are going to hate this show and more so characters come whatever may...while some are on love's side...

I am, was and will be on love's side. But I can not take everything they will throw my way as love. She is sleeping by the poolside, he's angry, they show one night of regret and then he's ok because she has a pillow and comfy. It's ok to become a dotting hubby when someone's looking but an angry, ruthless man when she's alone, without any explaining. I understand his turmoil, his feelings, anger and hurt, but Kushi's pain isn't hidden. Showing him reflect on her pain isn't enough to justify her actions towards him, imo.

today the show brought smiles and laffs to plenty while some had only acid thoughts...what a contrast...

I smiled, laughed but with Mami. The others were just😕

Kushi's bckground music didn't bring the same excitement in me as earlier. It was so unsuited for the situation. At least they showed that she's still mad with DM, somethings consistent

All I can say is...beauty is in the eye of the beholder...the same scene can be interpreted in two different ways...positive and negative...

And that is why I enjoy reading every post with an open mind. I know I will never see every aspect of the show or understand every hidden emotion. Often times I have looked at an episode and after reading posts re-watched it with a completely different perspective. But sometimes I just agree to disagree with them and move on. Looking at the state of the forum, opinions are being taken as a threat or as an act of imposing on others. Like they say taali do haath se bahj ti hai, it's both the sides, those who are upset and criticize him & those who adore him even during these times.

I have lost count of the posts asking bashing, negativity to be stopped, but like I have been saying where is it🤔 (at the rate this forum works, I may have missed it) there is hardcore criticism of his actions and thoughts, but no hate. Why can someone not love an episode and dislike the other😕

it is a fictional story...not a human rights commission documentary..and who are we...self appointed critiques or the moral police...or viewers enjoying, analysing a show..??.

Agreed its fiction😊 but can I not point out things I am against just because its fiction? And I am sure no one is trying to be either one, everyone as far as I see is a viewer who enjoys and critiques this show. Every episode individually.

Obviously no offense meant. I always enjoy your posts and make it a point to at least like even if I can't reply. And I see you are very mature to not come back around and bash me for disagreeing😉

hi teesha..i m back...and hopefully can do justice to ur lucid response...(i doubt i m not good at explaining...ask my hubby...😆)

i love the above reply 🤣

Originally posted by: smirk

i don't know if you will be written off as a forum traitor or something..

but i read a lot of your posts in previous days.. you did say your mind when ASR was bad or the treatment was not justified.. and now you are saying that we should stop being so negative and look around the big picture of the show.. which is absolutely correct.. we cannot just be stuck at one incident and go round and round about it..

a lot of them may question you about why you are supporting ASR, but i was a silent reader too and i saw you made all kinds of balanced posts.. so, it is you supporting the truth.. and i appreciate this post because it speaks the truth, even if it is bold.. thanks for making this..

and agree, beauty does lie in the eyes of the beholder.. the same beauty people saw as beauty a while ago is now turning out to be a beast..

hey thanks...a ton...u are one of the few who do remember my criticizing posts...i am trying my best to be partial here...hope it helps ...😊

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

Eveline - Hi nice to meet you here on the forum, i dont believe we have interacted before this. Just read your post and i found it well-reasoned explanation of your pov. In that interest of sharing, here is my pov...

hi SJ..thanks for reading n responding..i am a regular of ur posts...dont miss them any single day..call me a stalker in the forum slang...i love reading them though might not agree at times...but the wit and the style of writing never fails to leave an impact...😆😆

i love u 4 making this post 👏

Originally posted by: eveline

hi SJ..thanks for reading n responding..i am a regular of ur posts...dont miss them any single day..call me a stalker in the forum slang...i love reading them though might not agree at times...but the wit and the style of writing never fails to leave an impact...😆😆

And have to give u full credit for ur first observation...yes it seems more divided during turbulent times...and more united when we have reason for smiles...laffs and drools...maybe i am making it worst...but as i have mentioned earlier..somewhere just trying to balance it out..i do know lately one character is not being liked...on my part just trying to show the other side of the coin...the silver lining...the other side of the story...just trying to show another perspective ( but looking at the responses...obviously not doing a good job of it..😉)

About the next response...its tricky...freedom of thought and speech are the basic fundamentals of humanity and necessary evils of this forum..and i m a staunch supporter of it...but we need to exercise this right very carefully...coz alongwith this..comes a responsibility.of not being offensive...of not hurting feelings...unfortunately this forum is more concerned with the rights than the duties attached with it...yes what is shown in fiction is not acceptable in real life...but my pov is very practical and prosaic here...i have dealt with domestic abuse issues in real life...have seen multiple cases...so somewhere for me...such scenes lose their impact...there are worse things in real life...i feel ASR is a knight compared to the men ( the animals) i have seen out there...and the way they treat women...trust me ...anyone can resort to mayhem when faced with such beasts...so as i said ...my tolerance level for acceptable and unacceptable is warped and tainted by reality...but have to say one thing...looking at all the other shows...and what they depict and stand for...this one has not given us real cause for complain..honestly i believe this is one of the least offending shows on telly that i have come across..and what are the complains about...that ASR is not treating her right..but then when did he treat her right...the man has always been grey...inhuman to quite an extent...he himself has confessed it umpteen times...i think we have changed as viwers...we have forgotten this man's true shades...he was never a hero...dont expect him to be one..he is flawed tormented human...and expect the same from him...

And love for characters...cant help it...there will be ardent lovers like ardent haters...extreme emotions run both ways...sometimes they seem juvenile...and should be treated as such i guess...

I beg to differ...it should be different coz now we know him..we know his reasons..his fears...his pains and aches...his journey from ASR to Arnav to ASR...so we should be giving him more leeway or space..or understanding...but again in this forum...this time its not displeasure...it is pure sheer hatred..in some cases venom for a character...but ur post gives some hope..keeping my fingers crossed...

i know i did not do justice to ur response...but did try my best...hope i make some sense...cee ya and keep writing...😆

Thanks Eveline for reading my posts, most of them are made at the heat of the moment, some strike gold, some are duds and some are plain rants. so enjoy the ones you like and tell me to shut up on the ones that stink :-)). Well no maybe not shut up, just be gentle with me ok!!

Jokes apart, I agree that shows out there are much worse than this. That is why I get bored with the current track. I, for one, had great expectations from this young cast and crew. I know the PH consists of young men and a young woman and I had hoped that they would show us something different from run of the mill SP shows. I am disappointed to say the least. I would have been fine with hatred track, but this whole forced marriage thing is something I am still forcing down my throat and then they go make it as unpalatable as possible with group taunts and personal humiliation of the female lead.

And when others hear me say this, they tell me switch the channel or stop watching it. Thats where I have a problem. I just shared my opinion about the show, i did not solicit your advice on how to spend my leisure time. Another pet peeve I have is labeling anyone who criticizes the male lead as haters/bashers/droolers and then the rant goes - dont look at our ASR. Excuse me, YOUR ASR? when did he become yours? and how? This is OUR show, everyone's show and any of us has as much right as the person next to us to be here. These two are my pet peeves. If people can stop this rhetoric over and over, it would make for a much better forum.

Now to other pet peeves. I agree, when criticizing a character, some people go overboard and call to "hate" the character, condemn him/her to hell forever and basically raze them down to ground. I don't agree with that either. In fact, I cringe everytime people call names for any character in the show including names such as Snake, Creep, etc.

Originally posted by: eveline

the traits u are ciriticising again and again are a part and parcel of the character itself...u cannot like a tiger and complain about its stripes and if the stripes do disappear than whats the difference between the tiger and another jungle cat...those stripes are his trademark..his identity...or love a leopard sans its spots...meaning this has always been an integral part of ASR's character...either u love him with it or dont love him at all (sorry if that sounds a bit harsh...but these shades of character will eventually disappear with time..when he learns to curb his anger..control his emotions..or learns to care more about other person's emotions than the outlet to his fury...and this is what it is all about...its a journey...he will change...u have to give the cvs time to show his gradual progression from a beast to a prince..of sorts)

The characters will do it ..coz its part of their characterization...KK cannot stop singing...and Sachin is there to bat...ASR here is an epitome of anger and passion...without these ...ASR will be lost forever...so basically u are complaining about the flaws of a character...but thats where the power lies...his flaws and how he overcomes them...he is not the perfect hero material...never was and never will be...

EVELINE !!!!Just loved your post --its just pure serenity for me !!!👏

@ipepe...u are talkin to the wrong person then...😆coz i have been one of the staunchest supporters of Khushi..and will always be...for me be it Arnav or Khushi...they both deserve my loyalty...the one that is misunderstood for the day...deserves my defence...😆