Dolly , My answer to u was a rebuttal on your statement that India will be remembered for its HUMANITY in the future , not for companies like Reliance , as they will be hardly remembered in history . That was the essence of your statement and I disagreed . I think Tatas , Ambanis , Mittals etc who contribute a lot to the economic growth of our country will NEVER be obliterated from history , in our history textbooks JRD TATA is still given a big paragraph and page for opening the first plant and taking India to great heights in industry . So I really don't understand on WHAT basis u feel that Reliance will not be remembered .I must confess I am very very puzzled . But let us leave that , as U seem to be very firm in your convictions . I will only say this much ...I differ . Mukesh Ambani has received the award for GLOBAL VISION from the United states . Its no mean achievement , those guys have taken India to international fame and when that happens , one GOES DOWN IN HISTORY .
Now for Lord Macaulay . Why Just him , there are MANY British thinkers who have praised India for its Spiritual heritage and how that was inculcated in every SOCIAL UNIT . What made us great was that our social units like family unit or a village or a community as a whole were based on these spiritual goals . In every ashram of our life the base was working towards self realization ...be it the Gurukul system , Grihasthashram , later Sanyashram . Macaulay talked about THAT ...to replace British Education by reverting to a system devised by our great ancients based on this goal ...as he observed that if the remnants of that lost system were THIS VALUABLE AND BEAUTIFUL , then HOW much more beautiful the original must have been . THIS was the essence of Macaulay's thought .
What did he observe in his stay in India , travelling through many parts ? The REMNANTS of that ancient System that were fast disintergrating and being absorbed in Western culture . But make NO MISTAKE ...he observed the REMNANTS . He pointed out that even that was valuable . Preserve that , was his advice .
Are we preserving that ? Nope . Today we r so overpopulated that its impossible to bring the Gurukul system back .
If during Macaulay's time he observed the remnants of our heritage that filtered down and had so much potential ...today that what Macaulay observed had dwindled and diminished even MORE .
We quote Macaulay , yes . But do we observe that what Macaulay saw ...the remants of a beautiful system are literally becoming non existent today ? So whats the point in just quoting Macaulay and falling back on past glory ? Aaj Ki Sthiti Kya Hai ? Did we learn from what Macaulay said and restart our Gurukul Sustem or have we kept Macaulay in a history book with his printed thoughts to be used as a tool while trying to win an argument by saying No No Even the British thought our Culture was great And we r a great humanatarian country , those words prove it ? Long after Macaulay left , Where r we today ?
I will tell u . The corruption in the education system has increased SO much ...that a boy with 90% has NO HOPES for becoming a doctor if he dreams as even THAT is not enough in the rat race of percentages .
The remants of that social system that Macaulay observed r fast vanishing . Instead of trying to hint that since the Westerners often comment on our culture as great and come to India to study it coz their own is not as great and wholesome enough ...let us first see that we wake up and understand that indeed our culture was great bcoz EVEN THE WESTERNERS SAY SO . We sit up and then start paying attention ...left to ourselves we have SIMPLY TAKEN IT FOR GRANTED and allowed it to decay .
If they recognise our value , this speaks well for THEM and their VISION . Not us , as we allowed the full system to perish and were unable to value even the remnants till they pointed it out .
Sonali is NOT mocking the Vedas or the daal Daal par sone ki chidiya song . What she is saying is r we HONEST enough to show the Taj Mahal and the greatest slum Dharavi in the same breath . We show what our ancestors left us . What have WE done ? How long will we keep falling back on past glory ?? Even that Tajmahal is not being preserved properly due to industrial pollution ...so much jhamela is being done even about THAT .
That dal Pe sone ki chidiya song , again , is about BHARAT VARSHA . India was then Bharat Varsha , and its boundaries extended upto Afghanistan ,Nepal , Bhutan etc . Again , remember we r singing about ANCIENT GLORY . Today forget SONE KI CHIDIYA on every branch , trees r cut down and we see STREET urchins in tattered underwear , showing the great poverty that infests our country .
Inspite of this I love my country .Why ? Coz I was born in it . But I will NOT use past glory statements either to undermine other cultures as insufficient in themselves or to pat myself on my back to say We r Great in humanity . We ignore our poor , corruption has escalated like no ones business and if the Sati phase has gone , dowry burning came and if that has gone , discarding old people and staying seperate phase has come . From no angle do I see us as HUMANE today . We have to WORK towards achieving that title and have a long way to go is my only point .
Meanwhile , on economic front India has potential to become a superpower and lets not trivialize the contribution of the Ambanis etc was my point .
U keep repeating again and again about MURDER attempts by IMV . I have already condemned that and criticized creatives for taking it to that level . I appreciate this character not for these deeds . I appreciate this character coz extremely realistic and valuable thoughts were spoken through his mouth ...thoughts to which I could relate as he spoke the KADWA SACH . Bitter Truth . Other characters spoke of ROSY IDEALISM . I cud not relate to it . The black spot on this grey character were those murder attempts , which as a writer I would have not done . It is an error in the sketching of a character if ur a writer and u don't know where to stop , especially if it is a serial .😊
If foreigners come to India to study our ANCIENT spiritual Values let us not assume that only their Popes and Bishops r lacking spiritually and r corrupt . Our pundits and brahmins have distorted our culture equally to propogate male chauvinism . The Vedic culture was different , these handful few DISTORTED it and hence social evils like Sati , dowry etc arose .Why criticise only them ? They come to other lands in quest of self realisation as they don't lack money but their need now is something else. We go to their lands in search of material upliftment as we lack THE BASICS .
You may have achieved a balance in ur life , I do NOT doubt that at all . But You fall in the ten Percent . 90% r in a very bad state Dolly , confused on ALL levels . They blatantly ape West without understanding where THEY come from .They blatantly CRITICIZE the West and propogate that they r better than them as their ancestors were great . This is the bottomline of their attitude . I only say yes, our past glory is great but our current conditions suck . Let us be realistic .
Shahrukh acted in TWO MOVIES . SWADES and PARDES . I don't like PARDES as it glorifies ourselves falsely . But I like SWADES coz it is a more realistic deduction .
Thats all .
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