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Posted: 14 years ago
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I will say my conclusion in the beginning because it might be a long post, that both hetal and the bedi family are at fault. AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT MONA HERE SO PLEASE NO COMPARISONS LETS JUST FOCUS ON THIS FAMILY SINCE EVERY GIRL IS DIFFERENT.

Since the first day that hetal came in the house, vimmy started taunting her. I mean i don't understand, exactly how old is vimmy that she talks so rudely and can hurt people's feelings but expect everyone to take it as a joke. Same with sweety, she rudely declined hetal's gift when she could have just taken it quietly and suck it up because it was a gift. Both kalavati, sweety and vimmy were rude to her unknowingly but they are all old and mature so they should have known how to behave with someone new who is not accustomed to your behaviors. Then they just dropped all their traditions at her the first day (I know same thing happened with mona but hetal and mona are two different people with different personalities so they cannot be expected to behave the same way). She cooked and no one liked her food and they did not even attempt to hide their reactions.

When she came home to talk about everything, her two elders started brain washing her against her new family. Which one will she listen to? New family who are not nice and close to her or her existing family who are deliberately set on ruining her newly married life ? Except Amrit and her hubby who are mature and know how to handle people no one else tried to make hetal feel comfortable and at home.

But then again, hetal's mind is already filled with poison by her grandma and her aunt. So she starts acting on it. Vimmy is old and should be mature instead of acting like a high school kid and showing off her necklace to make hetal feel bad. And she did that with the help of the maid. Like are u seriously going to disrespect your DIL in front of an outsider.

Hetal was totally wrong to steal from her husband and nothing will justify her for it.

Now coming to the bedi family, their foundation was not strong from the beginning. Hetal just give them a little shake that's all. Remember when hetal tried to create differences between vimmy and amrit, and amrit spelled her heart out about how she feels about vimmy not doing any work and being a bad and lazy bahu. She didn't say that because hetal told her but because she thinks that way but always kept it in her heart. Satnam needed to realize that karan is not a kid anymore. he is a married man and he cant yell at him or insult him like that. I mean you shouldnt even do that to your kid especially when they are newly married. Both brother started fighting because deep down they also feel that satnam gets to be the boss while karan works like a dog but does not get the same profits.
IF there was an hope of hetal changing, the way vimmy taunted her today ruined that possibility, Vimmy needs to make hetal understand nicely that you should not buy the baby stuff because it is not good. Which again I don't understand when goldie brought the gifts sweety couldn't keep her happiness and told her mom to forget about the traditions but when hetal brought the gifts, she was angry from the start.

basically, the bedi family has a lot of conflicts with each other that they need to confront instead of keeping because when something little happens they will become against each other. Sweety should give hetal a chance and also vimmy needs to stop acting so childish and immature like the lady has a grown up married daughter but still cannot handle hetal probably. She should just let Amrit do her job and not meddle in. Hetal should go to her mom and ask her for advice and how to make her family and husband happy instead of bijal.

In this case, both parties are guilty and need to take responsibility.

P.S. I am not a fan of hetal but just wanted to think of the situation from both perspectives.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hey,

u r absolutely right. I feel the same way, Hetal and vimmy needs to grow up...they both r at fault, hetal was nice at the beginning, however turned negative because of vimmy and kalavati...I guess vimmy's problem is that she wants hetal to respect her more then amrit, whereas hetal believes that amrit is her saas and not vimmy.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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No, I don't think so. Hetal started it first. All vimmy was doing or wanted to do, was teach Hetal a lesson. She also in the beginning held a grudge against her, because when she first came in as a daughter-in-law, that is when she had learnt, that her mother had kicked her daughter, Mona out of the house, because of some tiff. She as a mother, could not take that insult. So the anger she had towards Hetal's family, she was indirectly taking it out on Hetal. Which in some sense, can be understandable. She was hurt, but did not know how to express it. I understand that, it was wrong of her to throw it on hetal, but she too, always taunted Mona, and didn't support her when she knew Mona only meant well for her. But everyone misunderstood her and didn't even giver her a chance to explain or even listen to her! So, coming from that perspective, you can't really blame Vimmy.

But after like few days, Vimmy was nice to her, and she didn't taunt her anymore or take out any kind of anger. But then Hetals started planting seeds of doubts and creating rifts between Amrit and Vimmy, trying to poison Karan's mind about Vimmy and her family. and Also Amrit's! Is that what a good newly wed daughter-in-law supposed to be doing?! :O I dont think so!

If you look back, it was Kalavati's idea, to get even with Hetal. Vimmy is known to be a little dumb or silly when it comes to dealing with people and or talking to them. She took Kalavati's advice to heart and starting following those footsteps. Well.. true that was foolish, and not really necessary, but she didn't do it, just to cause pain for Hetal, she did it because, she wanted to show Hetal that she is being foolish by doing all this, and in a way wanted to show her tit for tat. But Hetal continued and continued with her tactics. And as a mature women, getting swayed by others, i mean, wanting to take revenge and get even with Vimmy is like, being really Immature. Vimmy by age is a lot older than her, she shld respect that, and act her age, and not like a school girl!

Here HETAL is at fault.. from the start, as she was the one to take things to heart, and then run and cry and complain at her mom's house, LIE about her inlaws, and try to create rifts.

Did Vimmy do any of those?! I DONT THINK SO! Vimmy's intention was to teach Hetal a lesson, as she believed, after talking to Kalavati, that just explaining things to Hetal wont work, but by giving her a taste of her own medicine will. But little does she know of Hetal's immature tactics and thinking! sighhh.. Hetal shld know that she is a married women! MARRIED! A MARRIED women's job when living in a joint family is always to bridge rifts and keep the family together..and not break them apart! She just doesn't know how to run a house. or build a house! sighhh..

Its really painful to always see her act that away, and all her pathetic lies about her inlaws.. sighhh.. when will she learn?!?!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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True... even I feel its both their faults. Yes Hetal is really kiddish... but then Vimmi chachi and the bedis are also at fault. They should actually learn to give newly weds some space which they r not.Of the lot only chayji is a bit understanding.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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in my opinion both r at fault...hetal for lying and stealing...what all lies she has told so far!!!the part where she throws the sweet vimmy gave her to give karan and makes her own sweet for him, was just horrible...and so too the part where she lies that her in-laws demanded dowry...did she even realize what all repercussions could have happened had her mother believed her???and stealing from her own husband and lying about it on top of it...here she made karan to be incompetent man who could not take care of the money, nobody else was involved in this neither vimmy or any one...what was the need for that???it becomes difficult to believe that she grew up with ambaji's values and traditions...
on the other part karan in his mind does think that he is being treated as a servant...otherwise why would he behave like that towards his chachji, so does his father who at the drop of the hat was ready to divide the property...so all these things were smoldering underneath mona's maika, hetal just fanned those to fire!!!

but the image of hetal coming out of all this is of a spoiled kid who wants everything to go her way be it sasural or maikka, otherwise she will keep a long face and sulk all along...she is never happy except when she is with her fui...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Im not sure you are seeing the same show. Vimmy never showed off the necklace but was willing to give it to Hetal. Kalwati is th eon e who asked Hetal to come look at it when it arrived.It is traditional to joke around with the new bride and ask for gifts and taunt them playfully when they first arrive. This is what they were doing. Vimmy calls out Hetal on everything where most characters do thing sbehind other's back. She does not immature but like a woman protecting her home and family. Nothing wrong with that.As for Hetal's character. She stole money, lied to her mom to get a car that her brother and SIL worked so hard for, she is rude to her MIL and is always putting Kran down. She is the one who wanted to get married to Karan and after everything everyone did for her, she continues to be the same immature pouting whiney person that she is.Also, did you miss the scenes when Mona was first married. I understand they are 2 different people, but the show clearly showed how the GHandi's treated Mona and her first time cooking or doing anything at all compared to how the Bedi's treated Hetal. Mona had it far worse and she still respected everyone and did not complain or put her husband down where Hetal's character will be very hard to like again.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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All i can say is there is much of hetal's fault than others.. she does wrong and wants others to support her wrong deeds.. thats y she likes phui and not her own mother..

And wat did phui and baa do when she was newly married? they implanted that she can do watever she wants at her sasural bcoz mona is a DIL in their house.. if they tell anything bad to hetal then they will kick mona out from here.. thats y she doesnt regret for her mistakes..
And vimmy needs to stop acting childish sometimes.. i dont know why hetal doesnt like her from the start.. she keeps hating vimmy and mona always.. what have they done to her?
and showing the necklace wasnt a mistake.. if anyone buys jewellery at home they show it to everyone.. it was hetal who wanted to show off and said she ll buy a better one than this.. she needs to understand that vimmy brought it after saving money for years.. and she is just newly married..
Hetal is become sooo mad now i cannot even predict wat she truly wants... and bejal is again back to square one she started supporting hetal once again telling she ll be like a queen in her house once sweety leaves.. i cannot understand wat is the meaning of being like a queen in one's own house? does she mean to say that all others should be like servants to her??
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Had it been ANY other family besides the Bedi Family , Hetal would have been left in maayka right now , served with divorce papers .

I can't believe that a case is being made out for this criminally selfish girl although I respect any opposite point of view . Let me make it clear at the outset that i respect ur POV but strongly differ .

She is so smart that she knows exactly WHO to go to in maayka to get fodder for her future evil plans ...PHUI . She chooses to go to Phui , not to her mother ...see her judgement of human character . Very smart gal . Very chaalu and very crafty . The Bedis have NOTHING to do with her inherent chaalu nature , their one time tactless taunts did NOT spur it on . She is what she is ...so simple . She has inherited Phui's tendencies , not her mother's . In life , Hetal will always be a miniature Phui . She perhaps will be WORSE than Phui as Phui at least has some sort of affection towards her Bhabhi Bharti . But Hetal has zero affection for Mona .

Her saas is a simpleton ...not sharp like Ambaji . Vimmy is blunt but not a Phui . The two elder men ...Gurnaam and Satnaam doted on her when she complained she fell sick and scolded their own wives . Her nanands r WONDERFUL compared to the women Mona handles .

All in all Bedi family deserves credit for tolerating this specimen called a bahu in their house . Her own maayka wud have butchered her . Infact it did ...for one lie , her mom SLAPPED her married daughter . The Bedi family has covered up for and tolerated her hundreds of lies . The Sweety u blame so much has NOT gone to Hetal's maayka and revealed ALL her kartoots to Ambaji . Neither has Vimmy . She has held her tongue . Had I been in Vimmy's place I wud surely have told Hetal's mom EVERYTHING .

Did Hetal not know that her own sasur has no money and that Karan works in his Chacha's shop before marrying ? If she wanted a rich guy why did she marry Karan who worked in someone elses shop ?

It is Satnam's generosity that he regards Karan as his own son and plans to bequeath his business to him . Why should he ? He can simply pay Karan like an employee and give his business to HIS daughter and damad . THATS what people do .

It is to this Chacha that Karan talked back simply coz he snapped at him once or twice . Isn't he allowed that much when a huge amount of his money is declared missing by Karan and when his car is invilved in an accident due to careless driving ? My father wud have yelled at me exactly the same way if I wud have damaged his car . Which parent does not ?

Years and years of love do not get wiped out by some snapping just coz a chit of a girl walks in as a bahu and starts setting new rules .

To set any rules in a house , u first gotta MAKE YOUR PLACE in that house first . The power comes automatically later .

Vimmy has been used to a rich lifestyle and is not as adept in housework as Chaiji . But then she shares her wealth generously with her sister in law and had decided to treat HER son as her own and bequeath all to HIM . This arrangement had worked just fine for the two sister in laws and they were fine till Hetal came along . Chaiji did the labour work and Vimmy in return shared her wealth with her and saw to it that she did not lack anything . She spent for marraiges of Chaiji's children etc . If Vimmy is imperfect in some place so is Chaiji 's economic condition . They both supplemented each other well and it worked out FINE for them . Left to herself , Chaiji wud live a very frugal life as her husband does NOT earn anything much , nor does her son have his own shop . Its due to Vimmy's generosity that Chaiji does not really LACK anything .

If they TRULY stay seperate , they will UNDERSTAND . How much Karan will have to struggle , how much MONEY helps .

Working in Chacha's dukaan is NOT being naukar . If a Father owns a business he too trains his sons strictly to become adept in that business .Infact a father is stricter with his sons than the servants coz he wants the son to run business succesfully and not let it sink .

Karan never minded it . Nor did his parents till HETAL came along . When did the MINDING start ? When Hetal started making issues .

Chaiji shud actually tell Hetal ...THIS is our arrangement , it always has been and will be for years to come . It worked FINE for us . If u have a problem ...fine , go to ur maayka and get money for starting Karan's business . Then u can strut around as MAALKIN like u desire . Or do a job and supply him money for capital . Coz WE dont have the money to give him his own shop . This is REALITY . By calling him Naukar , Ur creating FIGHTS between him and Satnam and destroying his future .

Vimmy's laziness is commented upon . But she has MONEY to afford that laziness . If Chaiji becomes seperate , STILL vimmy can keep servants and continue that way . Vimmy ka Kuch nahi bigdega , Chaiji will be at loss .

But Hetal is lazy on WHAT BASIS ? She has no money and is arrogant to the ones who will pass on money to her ? Hetal sleeps whole day in room pretending sicknesses and this is not worth commenting on ?

As far as Kalavati goes , servants talk THIS WAY ONLY , especially when BAHUS give them a chance to with chaalu behaviour that is easily observed by all . Its Hetal's fault that she gave chance to servants to wag tongues .










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Posted: 14 years ago
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Good Topic brought by nigo123. I will say that I am agree with all of you at one or other points. I will conclude saying it was Hetal's fault for like 99% because:

When she entered the house:

  1. On that day Bedis came to know that Mona was thrown out of the house and at that time it was only Satnaam who was angry but as far as I remember (correct me guys if I am wrong here) it was Vimmy who said yeah it is sad to hear that our daughter was thrown out but we can't ignore Hetal and Karan happiness/excitement for this lets join to welcome Hetal with smile.
  2. When Hetal was giving the gifts to all Bedis which she bought from her maayka (Here I would say it was 1% of Bedis fault as we see Hetal as a new married women who has just entered the house) but I will say Hetal is self center minded, selfish person that's why she didn't like when she had to gave the earrings to Sweety. I don't think Vimmy, Sweety, or Kalavati have said anything wrong to her. They were just teasing her. I agree that Hetal was new with these people and not know their nature but she was not kid she was married women she can judge by the tone of other people whether they're taunting, yelling, or teasing. If she can't judge then she should let it go and give it another try to understand the new home and the people instead of getting excited.

When she brought the gifts for Sweety's baby:

Sweety didn't got excited as she was when Goldie bought all gift for her baby because

  1. Goldie is her bro-in-law so sweety has to show positive attitude towards him because devar is devar and bhabhi is like part of our own people as she is our brother's wife.
  2. Because of Goldie her parents-in-law are agree to take her back home
  3. Goldie is the only one member she can count from her in-laws because I don't think other than Parmeet she has got any love/care from her in-laws side.
  4. Goldie brought everything unknowingly

Vimmy:

I would say she is not acting as kid but she was teaching Hetal by giving her own medicine because Hetal does not understand things by explaining to her because as far as I remember amrit and vimmy also have told her before many time to keep her heart bigger (at the scene when she was making tea, she got upset while selecting the suit piece which came from their shop, etc. etc.) so basically Vimmy was just teaching her and saving her family as she knows amrit nature and Hetal was trying to makre Amrit fool.

Hetal need to change her nature that's her main problem. She does not think about her husband and her own brother then how can she think positive about anyone else and change herself too.

Edited by Megha2011 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Very well put by Meghna .

Since Vimmy's laziness is being compared with Hetal's I wish to point out two things .

1] Vimmy has money to afford that laziness , Hetal has none . Fact of life.

2 ] Vimmy maybe lazy but she is generous , Hetal is lazy AND mean . So Chaiji should stick with the former . Faide mein rahegi . That will benefit her .

3] Vimmy is NOT as lazy as Hetal . She is just not as adept at housewok as chaiji , bas . Hetal is grossly lazy . She just wants to lie on her butt all day and be worshipped by a subservient husband .

4] For those pointing out that Vimmy makes Chaiji work , I wish to say this much ...What do u think will HETAL do if they all become seperate ? Will she work or will she make Chaiji work while she sleeps all day ? I bet its the latter . So why make a big issue of Vimmy making Chaiji work ? At least Vimmy is sharing her wealth with Chaiji and looking after benefits of Chaiji's children . Hetal will not only make saas work but will make life HELL for Chaiji's children ...Karan and Sweety both .

If I were in Chaiji's place I wud stick with Vimmy and show bahu door .


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