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_Angie_

@_Angie_

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Posted: 15 years ago

Came across this harrowing news today !

A class VIII student of a flagship Delhi government school allegedly held his teacher by her hair, kicked and punched her, and then slashed her face with a sharp object after she had stopped him from cheating during an exam on Wednesday.

The teacher, 58-year-old Lalita Rani, was bleeding profusely after the assault and was rushed to a hospital where doctors put stitches on her chin. The directorate of education has ordered suspension of the student. School authorities do not plan to file a case because the boy is a minor.

for details you may check this article:

Stopped from cheating, class 8 boy slashes teacher's face

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Stopped-from-cheating-class-8-boy-slashes-teachers-face/articleshow/7676308.cms

Do people keep getting away because they are minor?

There have been other cases of minors stealing cars and setting fire to houses arfter burglary to eliminate any incriminating evidence. There have been cases of students carrying firearm to school and killing people out of revenge. Should they continue to be dealt with leniency just because they are legally defined as minor? Or should there be stricter punishment depending on the seriousness of the crime committed?

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Kezia

@MagixX

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Posted: 15 years ago

Heyaa ! Nice topic 😉 😆

I am surprised that a 8th grade boy (probably a 13 yr old) can do something so horrible. It's a little bit disturbing, really.

About minors, well, I don't believe in them getting really harsh punishments for something like this, but punishments enough to make them understand what they have done is brutally wrong. They should be shown the right path.

And no, they shouldn't get away with this, coz this would just make them think that they're free to do anything. And moreover, it's an injustice to the victim, in this case, the teacher.

But then again, here we have adults who well know what they're doing is wrong getting away, so a minor getting away with this is no huge surprise. These are some flaws in the functioning of our system I guess. Heard about many teachers getting away even though they had brutally punished (in some cases, raped girl students) students. So now a student getting away with it ? Well, what do I say...

Edited by .Doe. - 15 years ago

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Kezia

@MagixX

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Posted: 15 years ago

Just to add: The boy not getting any punishment whatsoever will only encourage students to do what he has just done, when they know that they could get away with it. It's stupid really, not to file a case.

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@-Nightingale-

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Posted: 15 years ago

thanks for the link.. I was.so amazed reading this ....

children are now a days...getting too rude n arrogant now a days...we see each n everyone talking about manners..but we hardly find it in our own children...we fail to teach the respect...children r lacking obedience...call it be TV, overpampering...etc..etc...leading to it

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Kankshita

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Posted: 15 years ago

Isn't it easy making through punishments, whatsoever the reason might be?

It doesn't essentially matter whether these people are punished or not, given, how long is the punishment going to last, anyway? When they are free, they'd find new victims. And this case you just mentioned, sheesh - that's shameful. And a psychologist could be a better help to such a student than a punishment.

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Kezia

@MagixX

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: -Kanky-
Isn't it easy making through punishments, whatsoever the reason might be?

It doesn't essentially matter whether these people are punished or not, given, how long is the punishment going to last, anyway? When they are free, they'd find new victims. And this case you just mentioned, sheesh - that's shameful. And a psychologist could be a better help to such a student than a punishment.

Punishments can teach lessons as well. True, psychologists don't suggest punishment, but sometimes, it works. And well, in this case, we have to think in terms of law as well. A few days in jail and a trip to a good psychologist would have done well. But alas ! too late, I suppose.

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Kankshita

@thegameison

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: .Doe.

Punishments can teach lessons as well. True, psychologists don't suggest punishment, but sometimes, it works. And well, in this case, we have to think in terms of law as well. A few days in jail and a trip to a good psychologist would have done well. But alas ! too late, I suppose.

Punishments can teach lessons as and when they are taken seriously. In a nation like ours, anybody with power can get away with the punishment and the law easily. I dun necessarily have a right to criticize the system because I never saw myself as part of it but I do have a soft spot for the victims. What good is the punishment to the criminal bring to them, after all? Neither their lost self-esteem nor the ridiculing memory of the incident(s) going to stop harassing them.

And here it is always late. Sigh. I agree!

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Kezia

@MagixX

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: -Kanky-

Punishments can teach lessons as and when they are taken seriously. In a nation like ours, anybody with power can get away with the punishment and the law easily. I dun necessarily have a right to criticize the system because I never saw myself as part of it but I do have a soft spot for the victims. What good is the punishment to the criminal bring to them, after all? Neither their lost self-esteem nor the ridiculing memory of the incident(s) going to stop harassing them.

And here it is always late. Sigh. I agree!

In this case, the kind of punishment matters as well. Obviously, any punishment should be handled with seriousness, otherwise it's gonna be nothing but a holiday for the criminal.

What good does the punishment bring ? - If handled properly, it brings sense, and some sense of fear that they could face the punishment again if they would do something as bad. It is easier to teach some sense to a child. Considering that the boy is just 13yrs old, he wouldn't do it again, if taught properly.

But on the other hand, if the punishment is not given, wouldn't other students be encouraged to do something like this as well if they know that they can get away with it ? So obviously, punishment would instill some fear in a person.

If not anything else, a punishment to the criminal is justice to the victim.

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Kankshita

@thegameison

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: .Doe.

In this case, the kind of punishment matters as well. Obviously, any punishment should be handled with seriousness, otherwise it's gonna be nothing but a holiday for the criminal.
What good does the punishment bring ? - If handled properly, it brings sense, and some sense of fear that they could face the punishment again if they would do something as bad. It is easier to teach some sense to a child. Considering that the boy is just 13yrs old, he wouldn't do it again, if taught properly.

But on the other hand, if the punishment is not given, wouldn't other students be encouraged to do something like this as well if they know that they can get away with it ? So obviously, punishment would instill some fear in a person.

Kids have gotten intelligent nowadays. Everybody already knows how seriously punishments are taken? The law is weak or in wrong hands or just disoriented with respect to minor punishments or rather entirely as a body but what should be the priority herein, I think has to be a little aid to the victim with respect to the harm caused.

With this boy, you may as well be right. I am one of the kids league too and I have noticed - not everybody is just aggressive, it is something far beyond if the kid has the nerve to hurt his teacher physically. A psychological therapy should be run, and then the kid could be punished if needed. Hypothetical, uh? I mean, punishments shouldn't just be be jailing you for a week or a month, other ways could be given way to also!

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Kezia

@MagixX

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Posted: 15 years ago

#10

Me being an 18 yr old, I do understand how youth is these days. Well, that being said, if the person is given a punishment, naturally, there would be some sense of fear.

I know that not everybody is just as aggressive, but there might be aggressive ones out there. If the law is weak, they'd get encouragement. They must have already gotten with the way this case was handled. So yeah, it's too late now. But well, makes for a discussion / debate.

A psychology therapy is being too soft on the kid. Say if some of the other kids get to know that the punishment for hurting a teacher is only a therapy, will they take a step backward ?

Like you said, kids are too intelligent these days. They learn fast..both good things & bad things.

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