Originally posted by: 5cents
Lata, I don't believe in idol worship ! But I believe there is a supreme power,nobody can go against HIM! And now I'm used to this 😲..........Nobody takes panga with me😃! Lata, thanks for posting the video. The girl has a sweet voice. But see India is changing that's why she made it to Sa regamapa. I'm sad to hear abt her being balika badhu...... Physical strenght, not having financial independance, lack of education amoung woman are major causes for these kind of abuses, but apart from them there are also some educated woman who do not want to be equal to men ......they just want to follow their men rather than walking together. ..... its hard for me to figure out why?? out of love and respect.. They think that making your husband help you with your household is not good.... they think I make my hubby do all the chores. "SON's" can't help mom's .....why can't he help you clean the dishes and she is like "no yaar, I can't make him do that"... If she makes her daughter do that work, why can't her son do it....that is so absurd.. specially woman putting her leg on the axe 😡! Why these standard rules are different for girls and boys... i understand long time back due to lack of education & stuff there were different norms, but now plp should be able to make their own decisions and should be able to figure out that its so frustrating for your daughter to think that just 'coz she is a girl she cannot have certain prevelidges and fun and she has to do certain chores!!Old customs and ideologies are so ingrained in these women that they do not know how to function. exactly They have been brainwashed and drilled with certain ideas, it is not brain washing it is part of hidu religion ..story i will give you, it is just a belief ..such as "Pati Parmeshwar" etc. I don't believe in "Pati Parmeshwar" thingy......we are all equal and complement and complete each other. I don't get the logic of fasting for my hubby's long life........Wife's vrat & Husband's long life....... what is the correlation. By me staying hungry....... how can I increase his longevity😕........if it is proved by science...... I'll defo follow the vrat path😃 untill then I'll enjoy happy meals with hubs😆.
Even after 62 years of independence, society is still in the clutches of conservative thoughts. Indian parents lay a lot of stress on values like peaceful co-existence, respect for elders, spirituality, respecting even the tools of your trade, joyousness and hospitality......I have nothing against that I love & respect elders. B/w I have a wonderful MIL and I too play the good daughter-in-law, very well😃. Sometimes a little too well I think(sanskar u see😃). I have read a lot of you have bad MIL's .....wretched, bitter bitc*. They take pleasure in tormenting DIL's and that keeps them going forever! Many MIL's are like a malignant tumor..... we have to cut her out of our body, so that we can live free again . God can't be everywhere so he made Mom....devil's can't be everywhere so he made MIL 😆😆 (LOGIC😛!!) ! Now the solution is educating the in laws & stop showing such regressive shows coz these stay @ home MIL's are all TV junkies (look @ the trp's).
For a marriage to be successful, adjustments should come from both sides MIL & DIL in equal measures. i agree The concerned parties should understand that this is a two-way traffic. This is what I would like to see in YR now.......bridging the generation gap.In urban India .....It is not about culture or conservativeness or values, it is about power and control...plain and simple! Look at Aksh ..... The more perfect, quiet, helpful, and agreeable she tries to be, the more G ma & B ma & DJ are becoming demanding, she can never be perfect enough to please them.
All this has to change...we as women have to join hands for better INDIA!!😃
OMG I wrote so much...if you read let me know if u agree wit me or not.😃
i don't believe in supreme power either, if it was there, there won't be any ethiopia , sudan or somaliya.. she is been in the saregama due to her chacha, then zee tv picked up the issue, otherwise life would have gone for her ever.. out from her own home as well as from wedded home ... i hope she will come out of her that innocent marriage ..
she got the exposure so she is been saved what about other children's in that region?
Problem lies with the scripts, vedas, Puranas, and the confined belief system, which cannot be changed.. if i ask a person who believe in god not to believe how that person will react..
other day just for the sake of fun i was arguing with one god believer who worship hanuman, ..i just told him please think that you are a foreigner and how a foreigner react when they see indian worship a monkey.. .. bapre.. after that you can image , he said i am not hindu, how can i call myself hindu bla bla bla😃.. after that i meet that person, now he don't even look at me , he avoid all possible conversations with me, 😃. this set pattern is been integrated to the belief system so much, you cannot change it..( i read in some matrimonial ad God fearing girl as one of the requirement 😆) 🤣
Man is so sick, sick from the accumulated illness of five, six, ten thousand years. It is repeatedly said that it is man who is wrong, not the culture. Man is rotting, yet the culture is praised. Our great culture! Our great religion! Everything is great! And see the fruits of it!
Something which could not be achieved in the last ten thousand years cannot be attained in the next ten thousand years. Today's man will be the same tomorrow. Although the outer wrappings of etiquette, civilization and technology change from time to time, man is the same and will be the same forever.
We are not prepared to review our culture and religion, yet we sing their praises at the top of our lungs, and kiss the feet of their saints and custodians. We won't even agree to look back, to reflect upon our ways and upon the direction of our thinking, to check if they are not misleading, to see if they are not all wrong.
I wish to say that the base is defective, that the values are false. The proof is today's man. What other proof can there be?
If we plant a seed and the fruit is poisonous and bitter, what does it prove? It proves that the seed must have been poisonous and bitter. But it is difficult, of course, to foretell whether a particular seed will give bitter fruit or not. You may look it over carefully, press it or break it open, but you cannot predict for sure whether the fruit will be sweet or not. You have to await the test of time.
Sow a seed. A plant will sprout. Years will pass. A tree will emerge, will spread its branches to the sky, will bear fruit -- and only then will you come to know whether the seed that was sown was bitter or not. Modern man is the fruit of those seeds of culture and religion that were sown ten thousand years ago and have been nurtured ever since. And the fruit is bitter; it is full of conflict and misery
This story is for you
Karva Chauth (Karak Chauth)
This vrat (fasting etc) is observed by married women (suhagini) for ensuring wedded bliss and wishing long life for their husbands and children. A married woman who observes this vrat is called 'Saubhagyavati' (joyous and happy state of wifehood).
On the occasion of this vrat a kalash (small container) is filled with either milk or water. In that kalash is placed Pancha Ratna (five pieces of different metals gold, silver, copper, brass and iron). The kalash is then presented to a Brahmin and also exchanged with other married women. While thus presenting the kalash, a wishful prayer is offered to Lord Ganesh: "Let the offerings of this Karva (Karak (gift bring long life to my husband and may my saubhagya be everlasting". And express such desire that 'May my death precede that of my husband so that I can enter the chitaa (funeral pyre) as a bride (not as a widow).
This katha (narrative) first took place between Siva and parvati. Siva told Parvati about the significance of Karva Vrat. In Dwapar Yuga, Draupadi asked Lord Krishna about the vrat of Karva Chauth. Thereafter, the very first time this vrat was observed in the town of Shukraprastha by Veeravati, the daughter of Vedsharma and Leelavati. Ever since this vrat has been observed by married women till the present day.
On the occasion of Karva Chauth which is on the day of Kartik Krishna Chaturthi, fasting (vrat) is observed. In the evening, after taking a bath, under a banyan tree (or in the absence of such tree, draw a picture of such tree) place murtis or pictures of Siva, Parvati, Ganesh and Kartikeya and do puja ceremony (shodashopachar or sixteen step puja ceremony). Then for the offerings of arghya (rice, flower etc.), while waiting for the moon to rise, japa is done with the mantra "Om namah Shivaya". Havan (sacred fire ceremony) is also done. Thereafter, having sited the moon, offer the arghya.
If the husband is present, then worship him with Panchopchar or gandh, pushpa, dhoop, deep and naivedya (perfume, flower, incence, lamp and food). If the husband is away on travels, then offer a prayer to Almighy to grant long life to your husband. Thereafter bring the vrat to its conclusion.
Lord Krishna urged Draupadi to observe the vrat of Karva Chauth so that through its influence Arjuna can defeat the Kauravas on the battlefield and acquire back the kingdom.
Married women who thus offer wishful prayer for saubhagya by observing the Karva Chauth Vrat, acquire saubhagya, progeny and lasting prosperity.
Yudhishthira said: Common people say that fasting is TAPAS (penances). Is fasting, however, really so, or is penance something different?"
Bhishma said: People do regard fast, measured by months or fortnights or days, as penance. In the opinion, however of the good, such is not penance. On the other hand, fast is an impediment to the acquisition of the knowledge of the Soul. The renunciation of acts (that is so difficult for all) and humility (consisting in the worship of all creatures and consideration for them all) constitute the highest penance. That is distinguished above all kinds of penance.
He who betakes himself to such penance is regarded as one that is always fasting and that is always leading a life of Brahmacharya (celibacy). Such a Brahman will become a Muni always, a deity evermore, even if he lives in the bosom of a family. He will become a vegetarian always, and pure forever. He will become an eater always of ambrosia, and an adorer always of gods and guests. Indeed, he will be regarded as one always subsisting on sacrificial remnants, as one ever devoted to the duty of hospitality, as one always full of faith, and as one ever worshipping gods and guests.
Yudhishthira said: How can one practising such penance come to be regarded as one that is always fasting or as one that is ever devoted to the vow of Brahmcharya, or as one that is always subsisting upon sacrificial remnants or as one that is ever regardful of guests?
Bhishma said: He will be regarded as one that is always fasting if he eats once during the day and once during the night at the fixed hours without eating during the interval. Such a Brahman, by always speaking the truth and by adhering always to wisdom, and by going to his wife only in her season and never at other times, becomes a Brahmacharin (celibate). By never eating meat of animals not killed for sacrifice, he will become a strict vegetarian. By always becoming charitable he will become ever pure, and by abstaining from sleep during the day he will become one that is always wakeful. That Brahman who never eats till gods and guests are fed, wins, by such abstention, heaven itself.
He is said to subsist upon remnants, who eats only what remains after feeding the gods, the Pitris, servants, and guests. Such men win numberless regions of felicity in next life. To their homes come, with Brahman himself, the gods and the Apsaras. They who share their food with the deities and the Pitris pass their days in constant happiness with their sons and grandsons and at last, leaving off this body, attain to a very high end.
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From The Mahabharata, Anusasana Parva
Section CVI
Edited by lathika4u - 16 years ago
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