facts about Rahul's exit- updated on 1st page

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Posted: 17 years ago
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These are few statements about the show stated by Sagar the chief editor/producer of BB, I am sure it will clear out many perceptions of people who are thinking Rahul's act as a martyr's act:


Sagar: It's a TV Show. Not the olympics!
Of course it's ok for us to change the rules. :-)

Especially in situations that the rules didn't imagine. Who would expect FINALISTS breaking out for a snack???

See, again you're blurring the lines between formats. This isn't a Reality Game Show. It's a Reality Show. There is no contest. The prize at the end is incidental.

The concept of fair and unfair doesn't exist in this format - that's part of the idea of the show.

So what you're saying is a violation of the format, in part, is actually the format itself.

There was no practical way everyone could have been sent out. It's a TV show, 6 days from a Jumbo Finale. Not only has the finale already been completely prepped, it has also been sold.

As it is now there are problems because now it's a 3-person finale instead of a 4-person finale.

And while a lot of people seem to think it makes sense to give the last person the title, actually I can't argue with that simply because I have no idea what you mean. It makes no sense. That's not the game!

Again, you're adding a layer of gameplay to this show which doesn't exist in the format. There IS no gameplay.

One thing a lot of people are getting wrong is this apology thing by the way - there was no apology thing.
Bigg Boss didn't ask for apologies. Zulfi asked to speak to BB and apologized. We only exploited that emotion by asking him to bring the housemates together to discuss openly something we knew they had been discussing amongst each other, and was on their minds.

At this point, we were still searching for a solution, we had no idea how to respond, because all possible responses are impossible in Finale week. It has NEVER happened before, and is outside of all BB theory.

Asking them to discuss it was essentially to see if we could find out who instigated the rebellion.

We were quite surprised when Rahul asked for a voluntary exit, and realized that though not a solution, a resolution had presented itself.

Rahul never decided to leave. He announced that he wanted to leave, but he didn't come into the confession room and ask for voluntary exit. That's the procedure. We picked up on it and asked him about it. His face did fall, but it goes beyond what you think.
When he heard that question, he knew what we wanted. That's why his face fell. He's a very very clever man, and the moment we asked about it, he knew something was wrong, and perhaps suspected we wanted him out.
Immediately, strategic political mind kicks in and he realizes this is the most graceful exit possible.

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few more statements from BB team, thought to share😊

Sagar: I think we may actually agree on a basic level, without realizing it.
So, to cut through the confusion...

Do I think Rahul Mahajan exhibited strong moral fiber in the manner of his exit? Absolutely, yes.
He may have done many things right and wrong in the past in the house, and yes, his exit was a way for him to leave gracefully, and "look good", that doesn't take away from its honesty.

Yes, there is a rule book. But you understand, the rule book is larely composed of things designed to make our lives easier - like mics and stuff. They are house rules, and we KNOW house rules will be broken.
Part of the idea behind making nomination discussion disallowed, for instance, it not to ban it altogether, but to make it a pseudo-crime in this pseudo-world.
Would you be willing to break the pseudo-law? If so, that says something about you, and that's part of the story's character development.

Rahul instigated an action which demanded punishment. Unfortunately, his gamble was essentially correct - the timing of this event paralyzes us - it is the one time where the prescribed punishment is not possible.

What many of you are failing to understand is that we would have probably ended up not being able to punish them at all, if this sequence of events didn't play out.

The nominations were designed to awaken guilt. The lack of clarity in whether the nominations were a punishment or not was deliberate - create uncertainty. Uncertainty breeds fear... Fear breeds guilt.

That worked.


Then the storyline would have ended at the housemates realizing their mistake, after the kids came and went, and feeling ashamed, having learnt a lesson.

A weak ending, but it's reality. That's what I thought would happen, and I didn't like it.

But then, unexpectedly, Rahul refused to accept that what they did was wrong. The fight was between the HOUSEMATES, without interference from Bigg Boss. They all argued it out, and then Zulfi needed to Confess.

It IS called the Confession Room!
And there it began.

Did Rahul outsmart us? Outsmart isn't the word - the stalemate on the wall was a game of chicken, and they won.

But the exit? I don't think either side won.

@Vicky

A lot of the plans for the final week are being reinstated, after quick modification to make them work for three people.

What was supposed to happen on Monday happened yesterday, and you'll see it tonight - the school task revival.

As far as 24-hr footage is concerned, it won't really help. The relevant section you saw on air had every millisecond that meant anything. The stuff you missed was the songs they sang, and tons of silence while they sang with their mics off and stood on the wall and said nothing.

@Sneha

As I said, we were stuck. It's hard to come up with a punishment with the number of restrictions that Finale Week imposes on us.
But before we could come up with a proper solution, the solution happened in the house.
You're right, in essence, the other three get away scot free. Maybe all four would have, had it not been for Zulfi and Raja's regret, and Rahul's unexpected announcement of Exit.

@harsh

I have no idea what you're saying.
Please explain how we have stabbed whose back? How did we manipulate what? We asked him six times if he wanted to leave.
He put a condition of exit, that the nominations be scrapped.
We added the words "bina kisi shart ke" to the question.
The psychiatrist (off camera) tried to talk him out of it, as per BB rules.
We didn't manipulate him to leave. When he announced the intention to leave, we hoped he would take it, but as per rules and common sense, we tried to give him every opportunity to change his mind.

To his credit, the smart man knew what we wanted. I guess, finally, he decided to give it to us, because it worked for him too.

Incidentally, there are no hard feelings between Rahul and us. He now understands exactly what happened, and agrees with our response.

@Sangeeta

Perfect.
Except for one small detail, which is our fault - duration didn't permit clarity, again!
Raja already knew Zulfi was going to go and apologize to BB. He was considering doing it himself too.
For once the "confession" room lived up to its name :-)

Raja and Zulfi had been discussing it all day, they'd been feeling guilty since morning. As you saw, that's how the argument with Rahul even began.

The words "sada bhojan" in the Task Letter also accelerated their guilt, as we had hoped.

But we were hoping to make Rahul feel guilty.

Instead, he disagreed with our judgement of guilt, and since he now has an ideological disagreement with the show, walked out.

@Vibhu Sharma

No Vibhu, from the very first time BB asked him if he wanted to leave, he was certain in his mind that he was leaving. He made up his mind that instant.

The insistence on scrapping the nominations was to ensure that he wasn't leaving in vain - either as a genuine favour to the others, or to look good in the public eye.

As for discussing with the housemates, BB asked him to do that, I'm surprised it came across otherwise.

The last bit you said about the 1 Crore Countdown Display, I don't get at all.

The Display was already planned, and we sent it in now just to make them start getting worried. In fact, it was expected to affect Raja and Zulfi, not Rahul and Ashu. As it did.

Rahul remembered that last season there was a Wednesday eviction, and was sure that this was part of the format. Only Zulfi felt the nominations were a punishment.




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Posted: 17 years ago
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This statement took the cake 😆:
"Rahul never decided to leave. He announced that he wanted to leave, but he didn't come into the confession room and ask for voluntary exit. That's the procedure. We picked up on it and asked him about it. His face did fall, but it goes beyond what you think.
When he heard that question, he knew what we wanted. That's why his face fell. He's a very very clever man, and the moment we asked about it, he knew something was wrong, and perhaps suspected we wanted him out.
Immediately, strategic political mind kicks in and he realizes this is the most graceful exit possible."
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Posted: 17 years ago
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i think that explains it all. now the rahul crazed blind supporters can eat their words. i'm sure they're busy fainting and fawning all over his press conference speeches calling himself a martyr!! what a joke!!! hahahah, rahul mahajan ousted from BB...at his own hands!!! thought he was too clever by far, and this is what happens.
rahul dug his own grave. he never expected BB to actually throw him out. they didn't leave him any choice in the matter basically. so he twisted it to his own advantage, clever political mind bender that he is.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: anniesharma

These are few statements about the show stated by Sagar the chief editor/producer of BB, I am sure it will clear out many perceptions of people who are thinking Rahul's act as a martyr's act:


Sagar: It's a TV Show. Not the olympics!
Of course it's ok for us to change the rules. :-)


Especially in situations that the rules didn't imagine. Who would expect FINALISTS breaking out for a snack???

See, again you're blurring the lines between formats. This isn't a Reality Game Show. It's a Reality Show. There is no contest. The prize at the end is incidental.

The concept of fair and unfair doesn't exist in this format - that's part of the idea of the show.

So what you're saying is a violation of the format, in part, is actually the format itself.

There was no practical way everyone could have been sent out. It's a TV show, 6 days from a Jumbo Finale. Not only has the finale already been completely prepped, it has also been sold.

As it is now there are problems because now it's a 3-person finale instead of a 4-person finale.

And while a lot of people seem to think it makes sense to give the last person the title, actually I can't argue with that simply because I have no idea what you mean. It makes no sense. That's not the game!

Again, you're adding a layer of gameplay to this show which doesn't exist in the format. There IS no gameplay.

One thing a lot of people are getting wrong is this apology thing by the way - there was no apology thing.
Bigg Boss didn't ask for apologies. Zulfi asked to speak to BB and apologized. We only exploited that emotion by asking him to bring the housemates together to discuss openly something we knew they had been discussing amongst each other, and was on their minds.

At this point, we were still searching for a solution, we had no idea how to respond, because all possible responses are impossible in Finale week. It has NEVER happened before, and is outside of all BB theory.

Asking them to discuss it was essentially to see if we could find out who instigated the rebellion.

We were quite surprised when Rahul asked for a voluntary exit, and realized that though not a solution, a resolution had presented itself.

Rahul never decided to leave. He announced that he wanted to leave, but he didn't come into the confession room and ask for voluntary exit. That's the procedure. We picked up on it and asked him about it. His face did fall, but it goes beyond what you think.
When he heard that question, he knew what we wanted. That's why his face fell. He's a very very clever man, and the moment we asked about it, he knew something was wrong, and perhaps suspected we wanted him out.
Immediately, strategic political mind kicks in and he realizes this is the most graceful exit possible.


Hi AnnieSharma, thank you for putting thoughts of Sagar.
This explains why BB2 was pathetic as compared to BB1.
Tasks given were not creative.
BB seem to be absent many times. Example, when Raja wanted to complain about Rahul, when Sambhavna was calling for doctor.
BB had put off lights before escape which clearly points BB's involvement in escape.
@Bold: This statement clearly takes the cake as it has explained BB's favoritism and preferentialism.
One set of rules for Raja, Ashutosh for discussing nominations, entirely different set of rules for Debojit.
One set of rules for Sambhavna for using abusive language and entirely different set of rules for Raja.
One set of rules for Diana for not wearing mike and entirely different set for Rahul, Monica, Rakhi, Sambhavna, Alina.
Sagar's statements like "Zulfi asked to speak to BB and apologized. We only exploited that emotion by asking him to bring the housemates together to discuss openly...", "We were quite surprised when Rahul asked for a voluntary exit, and realized that though not a solution, a resolution had presented itself." clearly shows BB's lack of skills while handling various persons and situations. It shows that BB could not manage its tasks of carrying the show well.
Rahul's face fell is just words of Sagar. It was not seen in today's episode.
If Rahul was asking for voluntary exit, BB should have ask him about his decision once.
But BB asked 3 times. This showed BB lack of understanding of the situation.
This, asking same questions 3 times, showed BB's begging to Rahul.
Rahul kept his head high and exited the show gracefully. In fact, BB cancelled nominations of Raja and Zulfi. This shows that Rahul in fact had sacrificed his chances of winning (he had 1 out of 4 chances of winning).
AnnieSharma, if you can, please convey these thoughts to Sagar.
Edited by bhidesm - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I just saw yesterday's show again when BB asks him if he really wants a voluntary exit...ohh what a look on his face...one could actually read as if he is saying to himself 'arre yeh kya ho gaya'😆😆...in Diana's words 'ab main kya karoon'😆...but Kudos to BB team...they at least proved that they were under no pressure from Rahul's strong backing as stated by many people here...sher ko sava sher mila...especially when he was trying to threaten the team saying I've been kidnapped n all...bloody he was paid to be there...what an A***😡
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: anniesharma

I just saw yesterday's show again when BB asks him if he really wants a voluntary exit...ohh what a look on his face...one could actually read as if he is saying to himself 'arre yeh kya ho gaya'😆😆...in Diana's words 'ab main kya karoon'😆...but Kudos to BB team...they at least proved that they were under no pressure from Rahul's strong backing as stated by many people here...sher ko sava sher mila...especially when he was trying to threaten the team saying I've been kidnapped n all...bloody he was paid to be there...what an A***😡
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200% agree with u....he said if nominations of raja and zulfi will be cancelled , i will go!
And according to rules, BB cant keep anyone in the house against there wishes......moreover he kept saying kidnap and liability and stuff!
After saying i wanna leave he asked "I know it will not matter but still i want to know @ existing nominations"
Big boss never listens to others questions nor conditions!
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: anniesharma

I just saw yesterday's show again when BB asks him if he really wants a voluntary exit...ohh what a look on his face...one could actually read as if he is saying to himself 'arre yeh kya ho gaya'😆😆...in Diana's words 'ab main kya karoon'😆...but Kudos to BB team...they at least proved that they were under no pressure from Rahul's strong backing as stated by many people here...sher ko sava sher mila...especially when he was trying to threaten the team saying I've been kidnapped n all...bloody he was paid to be there...what an A***😡
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Rahul was referring to kidnapping while he mentioned the situation after they broke the lock of the door.
He mentioned that they escaped as per their will but still BB forced them to stay.
In the episode, it is seen BB asked same questions 3 times.
If BB wanted to become sava sher, it could have asked the questions 1 time.
Also Sagar confirmed that BB had changed rules. We have seen many examples of BB's rules changing and favoritism.
These are the reasons why BB2 is pathetic as compared to BB1.
Kudos to Rahul who exited gracefully.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: bhidesm

Hi AnnieSharma, thank you for putting thoughts of Sagar.
This explains why BB2 was pathetic as compared to BB1.
Tasks given were not creative.
BB seem to be absent many times. Example, when Raja wanted to complain about Rahul, when Sambhavna was calling for doctor.
BB had put off lights before escape which clearly points BB's involvement in escape.
@Bold: This statement clearly takes the cake as it has explained BB's favoritism and preferentialism.
One set of rules for Raja, Ashutosh for discussing nominations, entirely different set of rules for Debojit.
One set of rules for Sambhavna for using abusive language and entirely different set of rules for Raja.
One set of rules for Diana for not wearing mike and entirely different set for Rahul, Monica, Rakhi, Sambhavna, Alina.
Sagar's statements like "Zulfi asked to speak to BB and apologized. We only exploited that emotion by asking him to bring the housemates together to discuss openly...", "We were quite surprised when Rahul asked for a voluntary exit, and realized that though not a solution, a resolution had presented itself." clearly shows BB's lack of skills while handling various persons and situations. It shows that BB could not manage its tasks of carrying the show well.
Rahul's face fell is just words of Sagar. It was not seen in today's episode.
If Rahul was asking for voluntary exit, BB should have ask him about his decision once.
But BB asked 3 times. This showed BB lack of understanding of the situation.
This, asking same questions 3 times, showed BB's begging to Rahul.
Rahul kept his head high and exited the show gracefully. In fact, BB cancelled nominations of Raja and Zulfi. This shows that Rahul in fact had sacrificed his chances of winning (he had 1 out of 4 chances of winning).
AnnieSharma, if you can, please convey these thoughts to Sagar.



You can see the show again and you will see what sagar is talking about ...Rahul was actually bewildered for a sec...Rahul never wanted an exit...if he was just trying to blackmail BB team and as Raja was not ready to buy his arguments saying that you are taking the matter in a totally different path and actually what Rahul was saying didn't make any sense...he said himself this is not Govt. of India that we cannot break rules...hence proves that he never cared for any rules and then he himself admitted that they were blackmailing BB saying we said we want food else let us go...which is against rules ...one cannot demand BB and put conditions on BB...and yet BB called them to the confession room and said to wait for the decision but they jumped before even waiting for their next reply (stated by Raja in the show)...as far as BB asking Rahul three times about his voluntary exit ,so it's only logical as BB also said that other's are there as witness so that Rahul cannot put false allegations on BB after coming out...as he did threaten so many times on the show that I will put up an FIR of Kidnapping, even when they fled and watchmen tried to hold them back Rahul told them that he will put up a case of assault on them if they will try to stop them...so he is a dirty politician and I don't need to pass any message to Sagar as people who wants to see can see the logic in his post...if you are a blind supporter...so be it
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: colors_123

200% agree with u....he said if nominations of raja and zulfi will be cancelled , i will go!
And according to rules, BB cant keep anyone in the house against there wishes......moreover he kept saying kidnap and liability and stuff!
After saying i wanna leave he asked "I know it will not matter but still i want to know @ existing nominations"
Big boss never listens to others questions nor conditions!

400% disagreed with u. know bb and sagar r want to clear thier point because in front of them rahul become more respected and power full .now they r trying to hide the truth. yes we all proud of rahul we the rahul supporters r proud of him ( not talking about the carwords supporter.) so bb and bb house is 0 and rahul become the hero. they cant digest this fact and now trying to hit some runs but rahul has already hits a six in last ball.
Edited by vikat4 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: bhidesm

As per local Lonavala people, the four musketers(Rahul,raja,aushu and Zulmi) had gone as far as one and half kms from BB house. BB production people along with security staff came after them and after lot of discussion they were convinced to return back to BB house. They were escorted back in VAN and they did not return walking as shown in BB episode. Rahul was refering this incident as kidnapping incident.

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