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Posted: 11 months ago
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Originally posted by: pilot100


My mother is also telling, that he is not wrong in taking the case. It is his job to put a fair trial to his client. Also incase he is making a deal, it will be only to free Nashwa and not to get her for himself.

What if he wins the case and Ammar gets free and kills five more people. What if he kills Nashwa?

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Posted: 11 months ago
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What if he wins the case and Ammar gets free and kills five more people. What if he kills Nashwa?

This holds true for any lawyer who defend a criminal. But as a lawyer, you have to defend your client

Burhan will try to get lesser punishment for Ammaar or try to send him to rehab. I don't think he can save Ammaar completely.

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Posted: 11 months ago
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Ammar character won't end just here. I think he will do something which will make audience feel for him as the writer said.

1) As per the flashbacks that they showed before ammar killing azad. The show may make bakthiyar more accountable than ammar by implying ammar is like that because of his father.

2) A monologue for ammar how much he suffered and why he had to become like that. How he is willing to face punishment.

He won't get normal end like wanting to get release but proven guilty in court. All characters hating him for what he did. No.

This may not happen. It will be about bad parenting. Nashwa also said she couldn't save ammar from becoming another bakthiyar.

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Posted: 11 months ago
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Originally posted by: Sparkle232

Ammar character won't end just here. I think he will do something which will make audience feel for him as the writer said.

1) As per the flashbacks that they showed before ammar killing azad. The show may make bakthiyar more accountable than ammar by implying ammar is like that because of his father.

2) A monologue for ammar how much he suffered and why he had to become like that. How he is willing to face punishment.

He won't get normal end like wanting to get release but proven guilty in court. All characters hating him for what he did. No.

This may not happen. It will be about bad parenting. Nashwa also said she couldn't save ammar from becoming another bakthiyar.

I beg to differ. How is Bakhtiyar responsible for Ammar criminal act. Did Bakhtiyar teach Ammar to become a drug addit, rapist and a murderer..He has always been scolding Ammar for his joblessness and care free attitude. Which Father will tolerate such a son. Infact I would say,he has always tried to correct him

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Posted: 11 months ago
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Originally posted by: Sparkle232

Ammar character won't end just here. I think he will do something which will make audience feel for him as the writer said.

1) As per the flashbacks that they showed before ammar killing azad. The show may make bakthiyar more accountable than ammar by implying ammar is like that because of his father.

2) A monologue for ammar how much he suffered and why he had to become like that. How he is willing to face punishment.

He won't get normal end like wanting to get release but proven guilty in court. All characters hating him for what he did. No.

This may not happen. It will be about bad parenting. Nashwa also said she couldn't save ammar from becoming another bakthiyar.


The thing is,be it drama or real life,Justice barely occurs even though people shout for it.Ultimately sympathy goes where it isn’t deserved.

Just like your last line about audience crying,They will cry whatsoever irrespective of Ammar's portrayal at the end.Because they are the audience,They are never the true victim.Even the drama might show Nashwah crying or having sympathizing thoughts regarding Ammar because once again,she isn’t the real victim no matter how people describe.

The person who lost her husband,a life partner,Father of her child,Only Beenish knows how it feels.So writer trying to Put a shadow to Ammar's doings & making audience cry is such a mockery to the whole Concept of Justice.

Even if Ammar becomes a whole new great human being,HE DESERVES PUNISHMENT.

What's the point of all this discussion about Nashwah being free & all when she herself chose the path?Irrespective of her Being the female lead of the show,All this incidents shouldn’t be about her.Ammar has to be punished severely.Nashwah becomes free or not who cares?

Justice should be the Only saving grace of this show!!! Not Nashwah's freeing or her pairing with any of those men.

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Posted: 11 months ago
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Originally posted by: Farin3545


The thing is,be it drama or real life,Justice barely occurs even though people shout for it.Ultimately sympathy goes where it isn’t deserved.

Just like your last line about audience crying,They will cry whatsoever irrespective of Ammar's portrayal at the end.Because they are the audience,They are never the true victim.Even the drama might show Nashwah crying or having sympathizing thoughts regarding Ammar because once again,she isn’t the real victim no matter how people describe.

The person who lost her husband,a life partner,Father of her child,Only Beenish knows how it feels.So writer trying to Put a shadow to Ammar's doings & making audience cry is such a mockery to the whole Concept of Justice.

Even if Ammar becomes a whole new great human being,HE DESERVES PUNISHMENT.

What's the point of all this discussion about Nashwah being free & all when she herself chose the path?Irrespective of her Being the female lead of the show,All this incidents shouldn’t be about her.Ammar has to be punished severely.Nashwah becomes free or not who cares?

Justice should be the Only saving grace of this show!!! Not Nashwah's freeing or her pairing with any of those men.

I don't know what the show is trying to portray when they introduced gang rape case.

But it is very indigestible thing for me that they showed their fl being okay with having a life with a rapist. Had ammar didn't do murder, she would have lived her life as bisma. Then what is the difference between bisma and her. Why writer said nashwa is not bisma when nashwa was trying to live as a rapist's wife by fixing him. What is worse is she mentioned maheen. It again confirmed, she completely believes what he did with maheen yet tried to change him as "better person".

Every character acted like ammar is not a rapist. Okay people in barkat villa didn't treat him as rapist. But what about other characters. Burhan, sana no other character talks about him being a rapist even when he married nashwa. Then we have many scenes where characters like sidra, bisma, nashwa mention how ammar is broken child, his mistakes can be forgiven.

When you take a rape case, it is good thing to show what made a person rapist/murderer. But you should equally address the trauma rape victim went through too. Not by giving random 1-2 dialogues after giving many scenes where the rapist looked like a victim.

I actually appreciate the concept of generational trauma and how bad parenting affects children. But the execution is poor.

I lost interest in positive characters. I don't care what happens to nashwa or burhan. Want to see how villians get punished. Hope they give satisfactory end.

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Posted: 11 months ago
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Originally posted by: pilot100

I beg to differ. How is Bakhtiyar responsible for Ammar criminal act. Did Bakhtiyar teach Ammar to become a drug addit, rapist and a murderer..He has always been scolding Ammar for his joblessness and care free attitude. Which Father will tolerate such a son. Infact I would say,he has always tried to correct him

I absolutely agree with it. But my post was from show narrative.

They give those flashback scenes before murder for a reason. Nashwa dialogue how she couldn't save ammar from becoming bakthiyar ahmad.

I didn't see any anger or disgust on nashwa's face for ammar even in that jail scene.

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Posted: 11 months ago
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Originally posted by: pilot100

I beg to differ. How is Bakhtiyar responsible for Ammar criminal act. Did Bakhtiyar teach Ammar to become a drug addit, rapist and a murderer..He has always been scolding Ammar for his joblessness and care free attitude. Which Father will tolerate such a son. Infact I would say,he has always tried to correct him

Bakhtiyar is not responsible but he enabled Ammar. If kept covering his crimes, if he didnt then Ammar would be in jail and Asad will be alive

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Posted: 11 months ago
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Originally posted by: Sparkle232

I absolutely agree with it. But my post was from show narrative.

They give those flashback scenes before murder for a reason. Nashwa dialogue how she couldn't save ammar from becoming bakthiyar ahmad.

I didn't see any anger or disgust on nashwa's face for ammar even in that jail scene.

Exactly, infact she has always been very polite to Ammar. Even in kitchen scene, she actually washed the glass and gave him.

She would have happily continued her married life had this incident not happened.

As far as Burhan is concerned, he has always maintained that no body can be termed criminal until proven. Plus Maheen herself withdrew the case. That is why he didn't fight for her. Hence his attitude with Ammar was superficial. But Nashwa knows his crimes because she has lived with him in the same house she knew he was a rapist yet she went and married him.

Even in the jail scene, she was sympathetic towards him. Not an iota of disgust was shown on her face. She is actually behaving like she is madly in love with Ammar and now her life is ruined 😡

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Posted: 11 months ago
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Originally posted by: blahblah131

Bakhtiyar is not responsible but he enabled Ammar. If kept covering his crimes, if he didnt then Ammar would be in jail and Asad will be alive

In short they are trying to show each one of them are responsible in enabling Ammar crime. Bakhtiyar, Sidra, Dadi, Beenish And Nashwa too. And now even Burhan

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