Jafaa (HUM) - Mohib Mirza, Mawra Hocane, Seher Khan - Page 92

Originally posted by: KhaqONeal

if talking to a bf in the terrace is such a big deal, he should have been a parent and talked to his daughter about it..explained to her why it is wrong and why she shouldn't do it... parents don't bother about parenting and then blame the world for their kids turning that way and use the most illogical and irresponsible and cruel way to resolve it.. then act like they're absolved of everything and put the blame on the daughter's boyfriend for not killing himself..WTF..

the gaslighting of audience through this show is just disturbing.. i would rather watch something toxic being shown as toxic.. not toxic elements being glossed over and shown as the righteous thing to do... but hey middle aged husband ends up being not abusive so everything is good in the end...

People like these don't deserve to be parents. That's not parenting.

We are definitely not the target audience especially when you see how much gaslighting is there, how the writer used sensitive issues for ratings and no coherence at all

Originally posted by: Hatimoon

Was she ready to listen? Or did she tell her dad what she could do to prevent this marriage? Did she tell her father that she won't meet him and she will only meet him when he sends the proposal of marriage at home? No, as she wanted to live a college love life with Moiz, which wasn't acceptable to her father after he saw them on the terrace. Correct me if I'm wrong, as I've seen only 1st 6 episodes yet. He didn't do this for self-reputation but to protect his daughter, and this was established in the first six episodes. If they changed this to'self-reputation', then it would mean that the concern that he had shown for his daughter was fake, or it would mean that his arc isn't well written. Also, people here are saying that what if Numair were a bad person? The answer is that her father did a full inquiry about whether he was a good person or a bad person before the marriage.

If he cared about his daughter, he'd cared about her mental health which obviously he didn't give a damn about even after she committed suicide, he was like what will numair think

Still numair being a good person and expecting him to parent Andleeb is still what a shitty father will do.

Combined with suicide, the force marriage is icky especially when the man is twice her age. Even if he is a nice person, now he has expectations, which rightfully so, but is still a dumbass doctor not to send Andleeb for therapy.

Why would a suicidal person need therapy when she's expected to listen to the taunts of the very classy mother in law everyday

Originally posted by: music_girl

His izzat is his daughter. That what makes him regressive. No girl should be their father's izzat. What crap.

He forcefully married his daughter. He has no arc except being a bad person.

He isn't a bad person but an overprotective father who wanted to protect his daughter from exploitation, for him her safety was more important than her emotions. May be they change the track & show that he was bad that he did that for self reputation, we'll talk about that later but right now this drama has been writren like this & we can't do anything about it.

Originally posted by: music_girl

there's no protection. Even if Andleeb was having s*x with Moiz, it's not his business. That's her private life.

If he cared about his daughter, he'd cared about her mental health which obviously he didn't give a damn about even after she committed suicide, he was like what will numair think

Still numair being a good person and expecting him to parent Andleeb is still what a shitty father will do.

Combined with suicide, the force marriage is icky especially when the man is twice her age. Even if he is a nice person, now he has expectations, which rightfully so, but is still a dumbass doctor not to send Andleeb for therapy.

Why would a suicidal person need therapy when she's expected to listen to the taunts of the very classy mother in law everyday

May be its ok to have s*x before marriage in some society but it isn't accepted in the society her father lives.

Originally posted by: Aazeen02

The same should go for Zara as well. Her parents would also have had inquired about Hasan before marrying off their precious daughter. But he's turning out to be a nightmare. Right?

I would say Andaleeb was purely lucky. She didn't die after taking the pills, she got married to the right person and as such didn't spoil her life had she run away with Moiz.

I won't say Deebu is lucky but I would say Zara is unlucky as Hassan is a good person but suffering from mental illness which was hidden from everyone who know him except his Dadi.

I was reading through the discussion on Andaleeb, and I always felt she was very young to go through all this. I dont generally find faults in people who have a boyfriend or even if they engage in pre marital sex. I felt icky seeing Moiz and Andaleeb meet at night because they are shown to be too young to take their own responsibility. They roam around in uniform, talk about bunking classes, no ambition. Too stubborn to listen to their parents. Overall awful attitude.

Ideally they could have used this drama to teach how parents should counsel and try to find common grounds with their own kids.

What Deebu's dad did was an extreme. Growing up I had this rishta talk and it alienated me from my parents like nothing else did because I was not ready. Deebu's parents should never have pressurized someone who is only 20 to get hitched.

As Khaq mentioned, no matter how much you ask around you can't vet a person unless you have lived with them. Deebu is not exactly swimming in luck given that Numair spends his time mostly at his clinic, meanwhile his mom is toxic af and the home environment for Deebu is overall bad. She could just have a breakdown, as everyone is against her and she has no support. She keeps toggling between her in laws and her parents place, belonging nowhere

Originally posted by: Hatimoon

I don't understand why people think that Deebu's father is bad when it was all the fault of Moiz and his mother. Moiz failed to convince his mother to send a proposal, and that's the reason why Deebu was married to Numair. As a father, he couldn't take any risk, as any father would fear exploitation.

Parents can play a supportive role by ensuring that any decisions she makes are well-informed and that she has a plan for a successful transition to independence.

1. Open Dialogue: Parents should have a calm and honest conversation with their daughter. They can express their concerns and listen to her perspective. This might help in understanding her reasons and finding common ground.

2. Offer Support: Sometimes young adults consider running away because they feel unsupported or misunderstood. Offering emotional support and discussing her plans for the future can be helpful.

3. Discuss Practicalities: Encourage her to think about the practical aspects of living independently, such as financial stability, housing, and career prospects. Sometimes, facing the reality of these challenges can make her reconsider her decision.

4. Explore Compromise: If her desire to leave is partly due to conflicts at home, finding ways to address those issues and improve the living situation might help her feel less inclined to run away.

5. Provide Resources: If she's determined to move forward, providing information about resources such as housing, employment, and education can help her make a more informed decision.

6. Respect Independence: At 18, she is legally an adult and has the right to make her own choices. While parents can offer guidance and support, ultimately, she will make her own decisions.

Originally posted by: meandwho

He had many option to choose from, he chose the worst one by getting her married. Just some chat gpt options (which doesn't suggest to marry her off)

Parents can play a supportive role by ensuring that any decisions she makes are well-informed and that she has a plan for a successful transition to independence.

1. Open Dialogue: Parents should have a calm and honest conversation with their daughter. They can express their concerns and listen to her perspective. This might help in understanding her reasons and finding common ground.

2. Offer Support: Sometimes young adults consider running away because they feel unsupported or misunderstood. Offering emotional support and discussing her plans for the future can be helpful.

3. Discuss Practicalities: Encourage her to think about the practical aspects of living independently, such as financial stability, housing, and career prospects. Sometimes, facing the reality of these challenges can make her reconsider her decision.

4. Explore Compromise: If her desire to leave is partly due to conflicts at home, finding ways to address those issues and improve the living situation might help her feel less inclined to run away.

5. Provide Resources: If she's determined to move forward, providing information about resources such as housing, employment, and education can help her make a more informed decision.

6. Respect Independence: At 18, she is legally an adult and has the right to make her own choices. While parents can offer guidance and support, ultimately, she will make her own decisions.

Ok, you said what Deebu's parents should've done in such a situation. But what about Deebu? What efforts did she make to prevent this marriage? Did she tell her father that I would meet Moiz only after Mangni? It seems like she wanted to live a college love life with Moiz even after her father caught them on the terrace at night, or there was a big communication gap between father and daughter, or the drama has been written like this just to move the story forward.

Originally posted by: Hatimoon

Ok, you said what Deebu's parents should've done in such a situation. But what about Deebu? What efforts did she make to prevent this marriage? Did she tell her father that I would meet Moiz only after Mangni? It seems like she wanted to live a college love life with Moiz even after her father caught them on the terrace at night, or there was a big communication gap between father and daughter, or the drama has been written like this just to move the story forward.

Originally posted by: meandwho

She did have a scene where she tells her dad, he can't force her to marry anyone, she has the right to refuse. She also has a conversation regarding Moiz once her dad brings this topic up. But she's young, maybe she doesn't realize what a life married to Moiz would be like, her dad should have had that convo......but the writer skipped counselling and went to marriage..

Yes I've seen that scene but saying that you can't force me to marry and I've right to refuse weren't enough. I think either writer skipped counselling part or Andaleeb wanted to live college love life with Moiz which her father was opposed to so she didn't make much efforts to prevent the marriage.