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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Lethamukund

Manjari is not only hypocrite, she is selfish to the core, manipulative and controlling. She decides what is good for others (Neil's case and Abhi) and expects others to just obey.

Now Akshara is not listening to what she wants, she is manipulating through an innocent child. She can directly ask Abhimanyu not to marry her, but that will make her look villain in the minds of Abhir and Ruhi. So she decided to manipulate against Akshara and baby.

She is not only vile, she is very shrewd.

I must appreciate the actor portraying Manjari. She is doing a very good job


I have always felt Ami Trivedi deserved more role as lead actor rather than mother of leads.. But fine... Yes👍🏽 I hate Manjiri but I love Ami!




I find Abhimanyu as much responsible for all his misery as Manjiri. Yes, Manjiri is controlling but Abhimanyu has not been less! He wanted Akshara, and the way he tried to control the situation was toxic.


I do feel, he has toned down quite a bit after Akshara accepted proposal but before that I always felt he was intolerable.

And as you pointed out earlier, the only time he realized Akshara's value was when he saw hee happily settled with Abhinav in Kasauli and heck he didn't even try to find her before that! But then went on to demand her to come back leaving her husband and child (which he didn't know was his). That's the kind of man Abhimanyu was shown to me on hotatar and it was just smiley11 to watch such things!


Things stabilized during Gangaur till he found out about Abhir. His obsession and controlling behavior was not limited to Akahara and Manjiri but also Abhir. It took him Abhir to spell it out that he doesn't want to stay with him but with his parents in Kasauli for him to realise what his own obsession wants! It was Crazy and torture to see Abhimanyu go around trying to assert his rights on human beings.


I don't know, it's just that this week, he has seemingly backed off a bit but I blame makers for still giving him scenes of behaving weirdly like jumping through window and sneaking into Akshara's room every now and then. It's quite uncomfortable to be honest.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: shahsb_26


I have always felt Ami Trivedi deserved more role as lead actor rather than mother of leads.. But fine... Yes👍🏽 I hate Manjiri but I love Ami!




I find Abhimanyu as much responsible for all his misery as Manjiri. Yes, Manjiri is controlling but Abhimanyu has not been less! He wanted Akshara, and the way he tried to control the situation was toxic.


I do feel, he has toned down quite a bit after Akshara accepted proposal but before that I always felt he was intolerable.

And as you pointed out earlier, the only time he realized Akshara's value was when he saw hee happily settled with Abhinav in Kasauli and heck he didn't even try to find her before that! But then went on to demand her to come back leaving her husband and child (which he didn't know was his). That's the kind of man Abhimanyu was shown to me on hotatar and it was just smiley11 to watch such things!


Things stabilized during Gangaur till he found out about Abhir. His obsession and controlling behavior was not limited to Akahara and Manjiri but also Abhir. It took him Abhir to spell it out that he doesn't want to stay with him but with his parents in Kasauli for him to realise what his own obsession wants! It was Crazy and torture to see Abhimanyu go around trying to assert his rights on human beings.


I don't know, it's just that this week, he has seemingly backed off a bit but I blame makers for still giving him scenes of behaving weirdly like jumping through window and sneaking into Akshara's room every now and then. It's quite uncomfortable to be honest.

Isn't he the one to say "mummy emotional ho rahi hai" . Seriously ? smiley11 That's typical Dr Birla. For all the shit that his mother does he has this one excuse. Ma galat nai ho sakti. From what I know , it's the same scenario in anupama...


Dr Birlas char is next to shit post the wd but apparently its all aksharas fault for keeping him angry unapologetically. smiley39 his mother wants his happiness but he can't be haply without akshara and this is one "thing" that manjari can't bring him. Hence she's widened her pathetic mamta ka mayajal to abhir to get akshara in "control" & mummy ka Munna says mummy emotional ho rahi hai.




Anyhow ..in the present situation, how exactly is this baby a threat to abhira marriage , I fail to understand. Akshara will anyways lost in the past as she always made it clear to ma beta that she will give her best to this relation but only as a friend & abhirs mother. It was a worse arrangement during arohi Dr birla shadi but Manjari was pretty exited for it...

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Krinya

Isn't he the one to say "mummy emotional ho rahi hai" . Seriously ? smiley11 That's typical Dr Birla. For all the shit that his mother does he has this one excuse. Ma galat nai ho sakti. From what I know , it's the same scenario in anupama...


Dr Birlas char is next to shit post the wd but apparently its all aksharas fault for keeping him angry unapologetically. smiley39 his mother wants his happiness but he can't be haply without akshara and this is one "thing" that manjari can't bring him. Hence she's widened her pathetic mamta ka mayajal to abhir to get akshara in "control" & mummy ka Munna says mummy emotional ho rahi hai.




Anyhow ..in the present situation, how exactly is this baby a threat to abhira marriage , I fail to understand. Akshara will anyways lost in the past as she always made it clear to ma beta that she will give her best to this relation but only as a friend & abhirs mother. It was a worse arrangement during arohi Dr birla shadi but Manjari was pretty exited for it...

@ bold: wow....kya baat hai......

abhi nahi sudhanre wala..yeh jo bheegi billi wala nakab hai bas tab tak hi hai jab tak shaadi nahi ho jaati...😂 but iss baar akshu is also not a timid lost in love girl....

actually mujhe samajh nahi aati...mamma bol den bete ko ki na shaadi karo...i m sure mamma ki emotionally stablity ke liye he will agree....abhir ko samjha do...waise bhi shaadi to gorillas ki manipulation ka nateeja hai...they can again maipulate abhir.....😂

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Krinya

Isn't he the one to say "mummy emotional ho rahi hai" . Seriously ? smiley11 That's typical Dr Birla. For all the shit that his mother does he has this one excuse. Ma galat nai ho sakti. From what I know , it's the same scenario in anupama...


Dr Birlas char is next to shit post the wd but apparently its all aksharas fault for keeping him angry unapologetically. smiley39 his mother wants his happiness but he can't be haply without akshara and this is one "thing" that manjari can't bring him. Hence she's widened her pathetic mamta ka mayajal to abhir to get akshara in "control" & mummy ka Munna says mummy emotional ho rahi hai.


Anyhow ..in the present situation, how exactly is this baby a threat to abhira marriage , I fail to understand. Akshara will anyways lost in the past as she always made it clear to ma beta that she will give her best to this relation but only as a friend & abhirs mother. It was a worse arrangement during arohi Dr birla shadi but Manjari was pretty exited for it...


See that's the issue! Treating people like things... Akshara and Abhir both have been victim of this and yet they want to make it work.


Manjiri herself trolled Abhira and yet they wanted them to get married because 'Ab dono ke zindagi mein thehrav aaya hai'? Like what does that mean? I still see Dr. Birla acting weird sometimes, makers really need to stop window mein se aana scenes for them, it looks bad again.


Hypocrisy is my second issue... As you mentioned Abhimanyu couldn't take stand for Akshara like he always did for Manjiri against Kairav or even Abhir..

Example of Hypocrisy - https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyYYhhANPRM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


Second, Manjiri was so upset with the idea of getting Arohi remarried or abortion, but shamelessly expects Akshara to wipe off Abhinav. Eww... (I partly blame Arohi too!)


https://twitter.com/povarshini/status/1712347300197188095?t=RZEmgjOSAuJQtn2ZLAyN1w&s=19


You know I fail to always understand personality and mentality of people of this generation. In previous generation, mimi was quite orthodox ladka chahiye and all, she changed overtime and accepted Naira dil se... Understood.. But iss generation mein people are just flipping! Seriously what's your point? Convinence ke hisaab se Neil was Pyaara and other time he was symbol of betrayal? But baby won't be na? She will be Akshara and Abhinav ki beti and Abhimanyu knows it all... I see this all so meaningless!


Ps: Abhimanyu ka 'Bass Kairav' will always be my favorite everytime Kairav spoke against MJ smiley37

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Posted: 2 years ago

Akshara and Abhi started talking to each other after their Gopi Mask Festival. Abhi legit let her know that he was visiting her family members, he sent a voicemail and we saw Akshara excited about him coming. And then when he came, he had that romantic moment with Akshara with her car before going inside her house - Akshra didn’t deny Abhi’s advances, didnt say otherwise to Abhi when he he talking and chatting with her on the phone - so he took it as positive signs of her love for him. Also, Akshara behavior is the reason Abhi had to go for her to confess to him. He isn’t toxic- you say he didn’t propose to her, went directly to marriage proposal- because he was getting positive vibes from her while they were talking. The whole day of tilak, Abhi was constantly messaging her and was confused wasn’t responding back- he even said when the family then thought the proposal was for Arohi, why didn’t you call me and let me know- what did Akshara do - she kept quiet despite the fact she herself was confused that how can she be wrong in reading his feelings. What does that tell you about Akshara when she ignored Abhi after marriage proposal despite herself believing in the first that he loves her and not Arohi? She was in contact with him decided to ignore.

Akshara never listens to Abhi even when he sweetly explains things to her- biggest proof being his parents anniversary party that she threw- Abhi tells they don’t celebrate it, not to do anything, and he also goes like my family/parents aren’t like yours. But instead she goes ahead and throws a surprise party despite him already telling her not to do anything.

More examples of her not listening to him even when he explains things to her. Akshara finds out about Arohi’s pregnancy lie and tells Abhi so he tells her I will handle it, please don’t take stress cause you can’t afford that in your risk pregnancy situation. But she goes and starts an argument with Arohi, Neil overhears and big argument starts with Neil throwing things around. Now imagine- Akshara got hurt during this argument- because Abhi did when he tried to calm Neil down.

Then their family picnic, he tells her don’t leave the picnic area, if you need anything- please tell family. She sees a kid, instead of telling others- she goes to the forest for the kid and ends up harming herself. Everyone worries about her and their family picnic gets cut short.

Abhinav didn’t need to be there, why didn’t Akshara go back with her grandpa when he came for her? Tell me how does it make sense that you see guy struggling financially and you decide let me take his help for my son and me and add more stress to him instead of going back to my family who wants me?


Bold- did I say that Abhi was right in divorcing and not caring for her during miscarriage? I legit wrote that he was very wrong. Actually did you see me blame just Akshara for WD? No where did I say Akshara was wrong to be angry at him and not come back- she can move on with Abhinav, good for her. But she had no right to change fathers of her son especially when he was made with love and she knew how excited Abhi was to be a father.



Originally posted by: Lethamukund

I perceive Abhimanyu Birla since the first episode as a young man with a very bad temperament. He behaved entitled, he was a control freak (after meeting her, he himself tells, I was in control with my life, but now there is someone to whom I am getting drifted and he decided to take control of that someone) He declared he loves Akshara and since Akshara was behaving shy with puppy eyes staring at him, he decided that she also loves him. He did not propose her, directly went with marriage proposal and the whole angry drama, emotionally stressing her and pushing her to such an edge that she was forced to scream out her feelings. It might appear romantic to a set of audience, but the kind of behaviour Abhimanyu showed is really toxic. It's a red flag. That kind of obsessed love can break the other person in a relation. n top of that he is totally controlled by his mother who is also control freak and manipulative. (I am happy that at least they have toned down his anger and controlling, entitled behaviour post leap, but his mother is still the same)

He was, is and will always be obsessed with his mother and Akshara.

He must have loved her, cared for her and all. I am not saying he takes her as baby making machine. You can be angry, but that does not mean you can throw some one out when they are at their lowest and most vulnerable state. And he did not care to find where she is for 6 long years. Was he angry for 6 years? If yes, then he needs therapy. You can not call it anger, you call it grudges. He held the grudges of Neil death and MC. Let us acknowledge Abhimanyu's role (with Manjari as a team) to push Akshara to such an extent that she had to bring in Abhinav in picture. Had Abhinav been not there to hold her at that time, both Akshara and Abhir (for whom now Manjari is doing drama of happy family) would not have been alive.

Akshara wanted him to come back and take her back. But what did he do? He did not answer calls and asked her not to come back. Only time I felt Akshara still had feelings for Abhimanyu was where he had accident and she ran to him. The fear on her face on loosing his life showed her feelings for him. Abhi--Akshara had a long romantic history, even with her FBs I don't find she having any feelings. To me, it appeared like she knew everything is over between them. And with Arohi engagement, she decided to move on. In my opinion, the whole Birla-Goenka families failed Akshara and Abhimanyu (and Abhir with Abhinav as a collateral damage). Generally in a tough situation like WD, family should have played the role of shock absorber, whereas Birlas started blame game and drama and Goenkas joined the band. No single family member tried to pacify the situation.

@Bold: If Abhimanyu can be angry and cut her off in his anger, Akshara also have every right to be angry with him and decide to not come back to him, isn't it? Only Abhimanyu is not entitled to be angry, isn't it?

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Posted: 2 years ago

Abhi never took stand for Akshara? 🤣

Abhi during their mandhir confession took the full blame of marriage cancellation, saying he made Akshara confess her feelings, that they should only blame him.

He is the reason her family opened their eyes on their mehendi and saw that they allowed Arohi to manipulate Akshara since childhood.


Before and after marriage- he always took stand for against his family members- everytime anyone tried to drag her in to argument, Abhi stood in front of her.




Originally posted by: shahsb_26


See that's the issue! Treating people like things... Akshara and Abhir both have been victim of this and yet they want to make it work.


Manjiri herself trolled Abhira and yet they wanted them to get married because 'Ab dono ke zindagi mein thehrav aaya hai'? Like what does that mean? I still see Dr. Birla acting weird sometimes, makers really need to stop window mein se aana scenes for them, it looks bad again.


Hypocrisy is my second issue... As you mentioned Abhimanyu couldn't take stand for Akshara like he always did for Manjiri against Kairav or even Abhir..

Example of Hypocrisy - https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyYYhhANPRM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


Second, Manjiri was so upset with the idea of getting Arohi remarried or abortion, but shamelessly expects Akshara to wipe off Abhinav. Eww... (I partly blame Arohi too!)


https://twitter.com/povarshini/status/1712347300197188095?t=RZEmgjOSAuJQtn2ZLAyN1w&s=19


You know I fail to always understand personality and mentality of people of this generation. In previous generation, mimi was quite orthodox ladka chahiye and all, she changed overtime and accepted Naira dil se... Understood.. But iss generation mein people are just flipping! Seriously what's your point? Convinence ke hisaab se Neil was Pyaara and other time he was symbol of betrayal? But baby won't be na? She will be Akshara and Abhinav ki beti and Abhimanyu knows it all... I see this all so meaningless!


Ps: Abhimanyu ka 'Bass Kairav' will always be my favorite everytime Kairav spoke against MJ smiley37

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Posted: 2 years ago

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@ bold: wow....kya baat hai......

abhi nahi sudhanre wala..yeh jo bheegi billi wala nakab hai bas tab tak hi hai jab tak shaadi nahi ho jaati...😂 but iss baar akshu is also not a timid lost in love girl....

actually mujhe samajh nahi aati...mamma bol den bete ko ki na shaadi karo...i m sure mamma ki emotionally stablity ke liye he will agree....abhir ko samjha do...waise bhi shaadi to gorillas ki manipulation ka nateeja hai...they can again maipulate abhir.....😂

Exactly. Do her normal panic hospital nautanki and ask her beta to refuse shadi with akshara . Instead of blaming an unborn for a failed alliance, take the blame no..but nai..manjari ko khush karna hai Dr ko, & akshara should be her puppet . 😆

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Originally posted by: Krinya

Exactly. Do her normal panic hospital nautanki and ask her beta to refuse shadi with akshara . Instead of blaming an unborn for a failed alliance, take the blame no..but nai..manjari ko khush karna hai Dr ko, & akshara should be her puppet . 😆

per iss baar to akshu nein bhi thaan li....

banda haath chudata rah gaya and usne pooja kar li......mamma and beta dekhte rah gayee....this alshu is different.....

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Originally posted by: Jenakt17

Akshara and Abhi started talking to each other after their Gopi Mask Festival. Abhi legit let her know that he was visiting her family members, he sent a voicemail and we saw Akshara excited about him coming. And then when he came, he had that romantic moment with Akshara with her car before going inside her house - Akshra didn’t deny Abhi’s advances, didnt say otherwise to Abhi when he he talking and chatting with her on the phone - so he took it as positive signs of her love for him. Also, Akshara behavior is the reason Abhi had to go for her to confess to him. He isn’t toxic- you say he didn’t propose to her, went directly to marriage proposal- because he was getting positive vibes from her while they were talking. The whole day of tilak, Abhi was constantly messaging her and was confused wasn’t responding back- he even said when the family then thought the proposal was for Arohi, why didn’t you call me and let me know- what did Akshara do - she kept quiet despite the fact she herself was confused that how can she be wrong in reading his feelings. What does that tell you about Akshara when she ignored Abhi after marriage proposal despite herself believing in the first that he loves her and not Arohi? She was in contact with him decided to ignore.

Akshara never listens to Abhi even when he sweetly explains things to her- biggest proof being his parents anniversary party that she threw- Abhi tells they don’t celebrate it, not to do anything, and he also goes like my family/parents aren’t like yours. But instead she goes ahead and throws a surprise party despite him already telling her not to do anything.

More examples of her not listening to him even when he explains things to her. Akshara finds out about Arohi’s pregnancy lie and tells Abhi so he tells her I will handle it, please don’t take stress cause you can’t afford that in your risk pregnancy situation. But she goes and starts an argument with Arohi, Neil overhears and big argument starts with Neil throwing things around. Now imagine- Akshara got hurt during this argument- because Abhi did when he tried to calm Neil down.

Then their family picnic, he tells her don’t leave the picnic area, if you need anything- please tell family. She sees a kid, instead of telling others- she goes to the forest for the kid and ends up harming herself. Everyone worries about her and their family picnic gets cut short.

Abhinav didn’t need to be there, why didn’t Akshara go back with her grandpa when he came for her? Tell me how does it make sense that you see guy struggling financially and you decide let me take his help for my son and me and add more stress to him instead of going back to my family who wants me?


Bold- did I say that Abhi was right in divorcing and not caring for her during miscarriage? I legit wrote that he was very wrong. Actually did you see me blame just Akshara for WD? No where did I say Akshara was wrong to be angry at him and not come back- she can move on with Abhinav, good for her. But she had no right to change fathers of her son especially when he was made with love and she knew how excited Abhi was to be a father.



I am sorry I didn't say you are justifying Abhimanyu or any other character. I am just placing my opinions and perceptions. Please feel free to disagree

Abhi taking Akshara's shy behaviour while they talk to each other and looking at him lovingly as her love for him and going directly to propose for marriage is not appreciable. She may like him or not. Even of she likes him, directly marriage? Isn't that a little overboard expectation? Did he even think himself if she wanted to marry him or for that matter anybody? That's what I said about his character. He decided looking at her reactions that she likes him, and decided that they can get married. Without even asking her general opinion about marriage. (If someone, even a girls' BF comes home suddenly an evening with a bouquet for marriage proposal without taking her consent before, I am sure most of the girls today will not appreciate it) What Manjari is doing today to get his scheme of things done, we got a small reflection of the same when Abhimanyu did a stunt on the confession hanging upside down. To most of the people that appeared romantic, but that behaviour was problematic. Mother-son is almost similar. Only thing was that stunt did not harm anyone's life (except Arohi was left on mandap, and that was her Karma of manipulating things for her benefit).

Akshara not listening to Abhimanyu I don't take it as much serious an issue. In a marriage (equal relation between two partners), there is no need of one person telling and another one listening. That's what I believe. OFC, they add these plots as drama is required.

As I told Abhimanyu (pre leap) is angry man, controlling and making decisions for others, Akshara is a typical Indian woman, who was always under gratitude (towards Sirat, towards G family and now Abhinav), sacrificial and keeps others over herself. That's not a great quality when it comes to your personal life. She sacrificed her marriage (first for Arohi, then for Abhimanyu), got into another marriage for Abhir, was getting into 3rd one for Abhir and now ready to sacrifice a life for Abhir. She is not thinking of what she wants for herself. That's a very bad quality.

If you have watched the wishes of Abhimanyu, Akshara and Arohi in Icha kund episode, Abhimanyu wanted Akshara (indicating he will be an obsessed lover), Arohi wanted all good things in life, to be no.1 (and she got it, she is one of the best doctor now, got a daughter and happy with her life; how she got it is another debatable issue) and Akshara wished for happiness of family, Arohi to be no 1, and to let her know about what is this feeling. She did not ask anything for herself. Now half of her wish is fulfilled. Family is happy, Arohi is no. 1 and by the end of this season, she will realise the feeling (today her imagination scene with Abhir indicates that). If we go by Ichakund wishes, there should be Abhira reunion (which actually I don't want after this roller coaster journey), because Abhimanyu's wish will otherwise remain un fulfilled. PS: I am not a fan of either of characters or actors. I watch it out of compulsion, because my MIL is a legacy viewer and she runs it on TV. and I am just waiting for the show to end. With the recent MJ non sense of abortion, my husband has strictly warned my MIL to not watch this show from next season onwards. So we are happy that it is ending

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Originally posted by: Krinya

Exactly. Do her normal panic hospital nautanki and ask her beta to refuse shadi with akshara . Instead of blaming an unborn for a failed alliance, take the blame no..but nai..manjari ko khush karna hai Dr ko, & akshara should be her puppet . 😆

Manju will do same " hospital nautanki" again to get the AbhiN's baby murdered and her son to get " AK and Abhir" that too against son's wish!

She is on a mission " what I want I get it "smiley37smiley37

At the end she will loose both her Son who gas been her " manipulative toy".. her grans son who was started to suffer under her manipulative ways !

What a charactersmiley29

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