**Dhruv Tara - Samay Sadi Se Pare Episode Discussion Thread #8 ** - Page 53

Originally posted by: aekiel

Would Tara have had a better chance at getting the truth of Ravi's whereabouts out of Senapati if Dhruv never appeared on the scene?

I think so.

I agree too - she could have had him talk about that as well but I guess that is story for some another day. What I am unable to understand is why is that Pandit still around? he was the one digging the grave to see if Dhruv is inside and Tara and Mahavir must have seen him?

Plus he was the one going yeah Samrat is right almost 100% of the time so you don't even need any IQ to understand he is best buddies with Samrat.

I think both DT must have done something for this cycle to start spinning? It can't be simply the wedding rituals as they are supported by god and most issues that are created are resolved so I wonder what exactly did these two do?

They are too nice to much than kiss on the cheek maybe, you reckon that is like going third base in 17th century? weren't they like super conservative back then?

Originally posted by: vibha28

I agree too - she could have had him talk about that as well but I guess that is story for some another day. What I am unable to understand is why is that Pandit still around? he was the one digging the grave to see if Dhruv is inside and Tara and Mahavir must have seen him?

Plus he was the one going yeah Samrat is right almost 100% of the time so you don't even need any IQ to understand he is best buddies with Samrat.

I think both DT must have done something for this cycle to start spinning? It can't be simply the wedding rituals as they are supported by god and most issues that are created are resolved so I wonder what exactly did these two do?

They are too nice to much than kiss on the cheek maybe, you reckon that is like going third base in 17th century? weren't they like super conservative back then?

He's a pandit, so probably enjoys slightly exalted status in the court. And there's no direct evidence connecting him- plenty of indirect ones though, and he pretty much admits that the Senapati influenced him.

Plus, as a pandit, he can probably give curses like the Maharishi.

Has the cycle started spinning? Not really sure, although the Maharishi's appearance at the crowning of the prince suggests so.

They may have been more conservative in that era, but some things are still beyond comprehension 🤪- I think D & T spent most of that night asleep on each other's shoulders (and nobody reported it to the King 😲), and Mahavir and Anusuya seem to be in a quasi live-in 😛

Originally posted by: aekiel

He's a pandit, so probably enjoys slightly exalted status in the court. And there's no direct evidence connecting him- plenty of indirect ones though, and he pretty much admits that the Senapati influenced him.

Plus, as a pandit, he can probably give curses like the Maharishi.

Has the cycle started spinning? Not really sure, although the Maharishi's appearance at the crowning of the prince suggests so.

They may have been more conservative in that era, but some things are still beyond comprehension 🤪- I think D & T spent most of that night asleep on each other's shoulders (and nobody reported it to the King 😲), and Mahavir and Anusuya seem to be in a quasi live-in 😛

That makes sense and who wants more curses, one is enough who is going to make DT life miserable.

I think the minute Tara moved to 21st century the cycle would have started spinning right? As Mahavir was supposed to be dead but he is alive which means history did change and that must change future too.

Oh yeah I forgot about that one, also how come no one catches them when they are shouting I love yous all over the palace as well. That bit if ITV I won't look for logic lol. Yeah Anusiya never leaves Mahavirs room so yes you can be right, but I do wonder what they mean by kaand. My Punjabi mumma would say anything I don't agree with her, is a kaand 😆 which no one takes her seriously. In ITV I have no idea though 😊

Originally posted by: vibha28

That makes sense and who wants more curses, one is enough who is going to make DT life miserable.

I think the minute Tara moved to 21st century the cycle would have started spinning right? As Mahavir was supposed to be dead but he is alive which means history did change and that must change future too.

Oh yeah I forgot about that one, also how come no one catches them when they are shouting I love yous all over the palace as well. That bit if ITV I won't look for logic lol. Yeah Anusiya never leaves Mahavirs room so yes you can be right, but I do wonder what they mean by kaand. My Punjabi mumma would say anything I don't agree with her, is a kaand 😆 which no one takes her seriously. In ITV I have no idea though 😊

Again probably going against the grain here, but Mahavir was always meant to survive.

There were a couple of occasions he could've died before the crowning day, and Dhruv saved him on both.

It's probably telling that the day the Maharishi arrived at the court would've probably also been a D-T marriage announcement day had Mahavir and the Queen had their way. If not for the Maharishi interfering (remember that he tells let things happen as they are), you'd say Mahavir would've almost certainly interrupted the King when he announced Senapati-Tara marriage.

The Maharishi came to the court because he felt the wheels of D-T milan had been set in motion (ergo the wheels for the destruction of Vallabhgarh had been set in motion, and that's what he wanted to avoid). The evening before was D-T confession, and the morning just before the Maharishi's arrival was also the ILU.

Originally posted by: aekiel

Again probably going against the grain here, but Mahavir was always meant to survive.

There were a couple of occasions he could've died before the crowning day, and Dhruv saved him on both.

It's probably telling that the day the Maharishi arrived at the court would've probably also been a D-T marriage announcement day had Mahavir and the Queen had their way. If not for the Maharishi interfering (remember that he tells let things happen as they are), you'd say Mahavir would've almost certainly interrupted the King when he announced Senapati-Tara marriage.

The Maharishi came to the court because he felt the wheels of D-T milan had been set in motion (ergo the wheels for the destruction of Vallabhgarh had been set in motion, and that's what he wanted to avoid). The evening before was D-T confession, and the morning just before the Maharishi's arrival was also the ILU.

Yeah but I thought sage said Mahavir was supposed to be dead? That's why I am thinking Tara bringing Dhruv changed the course. I am still not able to understand how Tara being with Dhruv would mean Kingdom being destructed and I am sure they will show it, I like suspense so thats one thing to look forward to but its not clicking the right way, if that makes sense?

Yeah you are right had not for the sage arrival Mahavir would have stopped Samrat Tara wedding. True, they did confess the night before and before the function the ILU. I like your theory of AP of Anusiya and follow on destruction rather than Dhruv and Tara being together creating that created the destruction.

Originally posted by: vibha28

Yeah but I thought sage said Mahavir was supposed to be dead? That's why I am thinking Tara bringing Dhruv changed the course. I am still not able to understand how Tara being with Dhruv would mean Kingdom being destructed and I am sure they will show it, I like suspense so thats one thing to look forward to but its not clicking the right way, if that makes sense?

Yeah you are right had not for the sage arrival Mahavir would have stopped Samrat Tara wedding. True, they did confess the night before and before the function the ILU. I like your theory of AP of Anusiya and follow on destruction rather than Dhruv and Tara being together creating that created the destruction.

Bold 1- Because that's the easiest, most believable thing to say to everyone present, rather than saying that he's come to stop D-T Milan.

If not for Dhruv, Mahavir could've well died earlier (even on the day of D-T's arrival in the 17th century if my memory serves me right).

But the Rishi came uninvited on that specific day of the marriage announcement, and not earlier (although one could argue that it might have been the xth day since Mahavir's "passing" too, if he had passed away earlier)

So, my theory is that the Rishi came purely to stop D-T Milan, and uses whatever he can to stop it, because he foresees the destruction of Vallabhgarh. That's why he interferes when Mahavir is about to interrupt the King at the time of S-T marriage announcement (let things happen as they are), and then goes to talk to Mahavir privately later.

If the Rishi can foresee the stabbing, he would've also seen that the stabbing would be fake. But the aim was to put the fear of it into Mahavir, so that the latter tries some other way to avoid it (ideally sending D away in the process)

The Rishi, IMO, knows he's fighting a losing battle (because he knows D-T milan is the actual destiny), but is trying his best to somehow win it.

Bold 2- that's a doubt I have too- the only part that doesn't quite add up in this jigsaw puzzle, but let's see.

Originally posted by: vibha28

If the Rishi can foresee the stabbing, he would've also seen that the stabbing would be fake. But the aim was to put the fear of it into Mahavir, so that the latter tries some other way to avoid it (ideally sending D away in the process)

True, but the love they have is way too strong so he must have known that won't work either? Wouldn't it have more sense to just tell them that? Although thats too logical for ITV so I guess I am looking in the wrong direction.

Bold- that's the most obvious solution (and loophole) in the D-T Milan is destiny theory.

Tell them the truth, and they'll themselves step away ITV style (maybe not Dhruv, but Tara certainly will)

But maybe there are consequences for telling D & T directly about this (that they are the reasons for Vallabgarh's fall) for the Maharishi, so he's trying an indirect way first? 😕

Also, as you said, it'd be too logical for ITV 😆

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Originally posted by: aekiel

Bold- that's the most obvious solution (and loophole) in the D-T Milan is destiny theory.

Tell them the truth, and they'll themselves step away ITV style (maybe not Dhruv, but Tara certainly will)

But maybe there are consequences for telling D & T directly about this (that they are the reasons for Vallabgarh's fall) for the Maharishi, so he's trying an indirect way first? 😕

Also, as you said, it'd be too logical for ITV 😆

I can see two things here:

1. Tara and Dhruv will be under immense stress - no job, family, money, accommodation, friends, support, or anything else. This means both will be miserable, I know Tara would be as she is way to traditional that way. Dhruv too as he loves his family but he did leave them too for a while and he knew he will die he still stayed back. So he won't let Tara go but this would mean a total cryfest until they figure out solution. I think Dhruv would have to as Tara is terrible and she cries in this situation.

2. They find a way together after a bit of a mourning period on how to overcome it. One thing is both have very strong foundation and the love in unique and they have krishna to help them too. This is the route I would want them to go but its ITV and TRP so I think maybe 1 is the way they may go.

Either way, I would genuinely hope the show is not dragged. Logical for ITV would have been great but nope we have this sage who goes around telling future which is not the correct one either. Good thing the curse bit doesn't bother me too much lol.

Originally posted by: aekiel

Bold- that's the most obvious solution (and loophole) in the D-T Milan is destiny theory.

Tell them the truth, and they'll themselves step away ITV style (maybe not Dhruv, but Tara certainly will)

But maybe there are consequences for telling D & T directly about this (that they are the reasons for Vallabgarh's fall) for the Maharishi, so he's trying an indirect way first? 😕

Also, as you said, it'd be too logical for ITV 😆

One more thought popped in my head - if destruction of vallabhgadh is imminent what difference does it make if Tara and Dhruv are together? As per that evacuation site vallabhgadh was destroyed so that’s one truth. Shouldn’t the sage be supporting DT instead and hope the destruction is not as bad? That site also proves DT is destiny but I guess the sage doesn’t know that and he wants the destruction stopped?