**Dhruv Tara - Samay Sadi Se Pare Episode Discussion Thread #8 ** - Page 51

Originally posted by: aekiel

I saw a theory from a person on Twitter a while back, and part of it kinda made sense

The actual niyati/fate (what is written to happen) is D & T actually getting married and Vallabhgarh getting destroyed as a result. That's the future- it's supposed to happen, and it kinda makes sense because when Tara went back to the 21st, there was a destroyed Vallabhgarh and remnants of everyone in her kingdom (but her own), and she & Dhruv were left in the end. You can say D-T milan is niyati because otherwise, Samrat wouldn't have poisoned her brother in the first place, leading her to time travel and meet Dhruv for a cure (plus her Radha Krishna dupatta flows to him)

The Maharishi is simply trying to stop the eventual destruction of Vallabhgarh- that's his only aim.

What doesn't make sense is why Vallabhgarh would get destroyed because of the D-T milan. There has to be an external trigger, which doesn't seem to have been specified yet.

But it's good that the story is keeping the mystery/guessing part alive.

This is the best explanation and I agree with this theory that it’s destiny that DT are together and sage wants welfare of the kingdom. It is interesting that apart from the portrait nothing else of Tara was found. Krishna has joined these two so I think eventually no matter who tries to stop them - they will be. You can’t asunder what god has brought together. There is simply no way - they can create issues for them but not change the end.

One thing I can think is Tara could have saved the kingdom but as she is connected to Dhruv the destruction was imminent. So the sage wants her around to maybe change that part of past? Anyway I do agree keeping that mystery alive is the fun part.

Originally posted by: aekiel

I saw a theory from a person on Twitter a while back, and part of it kinda made sense

The actual niyati/fate (what is written to happen) is D & T actually getting married and Vallabhgarh getting destroyed as a result. That's the future- it's supposed to happen, and it kinda makes sense because when Tara went back to the 21st, there was a destroyed Vallabhgarh and remnants of everyone in her kingdom (but her own), and she & Dhruv were left in the end. You can say D-T milan is niyati because otherwise, Samrat wouldn't have poisoned her brother in the first place, leading her to time travel and meet Dhruv for a cure (plus her Radha Krishna dupatta flows to him)

The Maharishi is simply trying to stop the eventual destruction of Vallabhgarh- that's his only aim.

What doesn't make sense is why Vallabhgarh would get destroyed because of the D-T milan. There has to be an external trigger, which doesn't seem to have been specified yet.

But it's good that the story is keeping the mystery/guessing part alive.

This is the best explanation and I agree with this theory that it’s destiny that DT are together and sage wants welfare of the kingdom. It is interesting that apart from the portrait nothing else of Tara was found. Krishna has joined these two so I think eventually no matter who tries to stop them - they will be. You can’t asunder what god has brought together. There is simply no way - they can create issues for them but not change the end.

One thing I can think is Tara could have saved the kingdom but as she is connected to Dhruv the destruction was imminent. So the sage wants her around to maybe change that part of past? Anyway I do agree keeping that mystery alive is the fun part.

Originally posted by: vibha28

This is the best explanation and I agree with this theory that it’s destiny that DT are together and sage wants welfare of the kingdom. It is interesting that apart from the portrait nothing else of Tara was found. Krishna has joined these two so I think eventually no matter who tries to stop them - they will be. You can’t asunder what god has brought together. There is simply no way - they can create issues for them but not change the end.

One thing I can think is Tara could have saved the kingdom but as she is connected to Dhruv the destruction was imminent. So the sage wants her around to maybe change that part of past? Anyway I do agree keeping that mystery alive is the fun part.

Possible theory that occurred to me.

The only external trigger currently announced is Maharani's curse if anyone asks for Agnipariksha in Vallabgarh.

D-T time travel and marry in the 21st (as per Dhruv's dream), but can't/don't go back to the 17th.

The new entry comes, and wreaks havoc between Mahavir and Anusuya.

In the absence of Tara as a sounding board for the royal family, Mahavir and Anusuya become distant despite Anusuya being pregnant, and maybe, in a fit of madness, someone (?) asks Anusuya for an agnipariksha, and Maharani's curse gets set into action.

Possible theory- maybe yes. But would feel a bit lame if Tara not being there was the reason for Vallabhgarh falling.

Originally posted by: aekiel

Possible theory that occurred to me.

The only external trigger currently announced is Maharani's curse if anyone asks for Agnipariksha in Vallabgarh.

D-T time travel and marry in the 21st (as per Dhruv's dream), but can't/don't go back to the 17th.

The new entry comes, and wreaks havoc between Mahavir and Anusuya.

In the absence of Tara as a sounding board for the royal family, Mahavir and Anusuya become distant despite Anusuya being pregnant, and maybe, in a fit of madness, someone (?) asks Anusuya for an agnipariksha, and Maharani's curse gets set into action.

Possible theory- maybe yes. But would feel a bit lame if Tara not being there was the reason for Vallabhgarh falling.

Hmmm that’s a strong possibility as well. That new villain could create trouble between Mahavir and Anusiya. And DT can’t go back and I don’t want them to go back that place is full of curses and parikasha.

How would it destroy Vallabhgarh though? That’s a personal matter and back in those days what female wanted wasn’t relevant. That’s why I was thinking something else but your theory has a strong correlation too.

Originally posted by: vibha28

Hmmm that’s a strong possibility as well. That new villain could create trouble between Mahavir and Anusiya. And DT can’t go back and I don’t want them to go back that place is full of curses and parikasha.

How would it destroy Vallabhgarh though? That’s a personal matter and back in those days what female wanted wasn’t relevant. That’s why I was thinking something else but your theory has a strong correlation too.

IMO, they wouldn't have inserted that dialogue for Maharani (during agnipariksha time) unless it had some reference point for the future.

And generally in ITV, those words (coming from a female) will have an impact- maybe a wrong consequent hasty decision/lapse in judgement from the King or Mahavir that sees a foreign force invade and destroy the kingdom?

And this whole Maharani curse is also weirdly connected to D-T niyati-If she didn't time travel and find him, he wouldn't come to the 17th, cure her brother and ask for the Maharani's rajdand to be lifted (no one else would've ever asked it), and Senapati wouldn't have suggested AP as a solution for the King.

Maybe I'm trying to connect dots that are too far away to be connected though 🤪

Originally posted by: aekiel

IMO, they wouldn't have inserted that dialogue for Maharani (during agnipariksha time) unless it had some reference point for the future.

And generally in ITV, those words (coming from a female) will have an impact- maybe a wrong consequent hasty decision/lapse in judgement from the King or Mahavir that sees a foreign force invade and destroy the kingdom?

And this whole Maharani curse is also weirdly connected to D-T niyati-If she didn't time travel and find him, he wouldn't come to the 17th, cure her brother and ask for the Maharani's rajdand to be lifted (no one else would've ever asked it), and Senapati wouldn't have suggested AP as a solution for the King.

Maybe I'm trying to connect dots that are too far away to be connected though 🤪

That makes sense - so you think either Anusiya or Queen would have to give the AP? I do think that Tara is for 21st century and as Dhruvs partner or better half. I think as they are leads we also saw their trust on each other. Eg - when Tara was running from cops and they said she filed the DV complaint and Dhruv was like nope, not Tara I know her. And same with her when it came to her brother who she at that time loved the most and said I trust him with all my heart.

We have not seen that between Mahavir and Anusiya. They talk but those talks were mainly about Dhruv and Tara or that terrible Samrat. So yes you Theory has a point.

With Dhruv Tara in current century the one who can reason is gone and hence the destruction?

Originally posted by: vibha28

That makes sense - so you think either Anusiya or Queen would have to give the AP? I do think that Tara is for 21st century and as Dhruvs partner or better half. I think as they are leads we also saw their trust on each other. Eg - when Tara was running from cops and they said she filed the DV complaint and Dhruv was like nope, not Tara I know her. And same with her when it came to her brother who she at that time loved the most and said I trust him with all my heart.

We have not seen that between Mahavir and Anusiya. They talk but those talks were mainly about Dhruv and Tara or that terrible Samrat. So yes you Theory has a point.

With Dhruv Tara in current century the one who can reason is gone and hence the destruction?

Anusuya IMO gets asked for the AP (new entry might be a Samrat plant too)

The whole thing is a reasonable enough theory (by ITV standards), but I'd feel a bit disappointed if just the absence of Dhruv and Tara (the "pole star" that provides direction) was the reason for someone to ask for A-P and consequently for Vallabhgarh to fall.

The way they've built it up, the reasoning has to be a little.......grander?

Originally posted by: aekiel

Anusuya IMO gets asked for the AP (new entry might be a Samrat plant too)

The whole thing is a reasonable enough theory (by ITV standards), but I'd feel a bit disappointed if just the absence of Dhruv and Tara (the "pole star" that provides direction) was the reason for someone to ask for A-P and consequently for Vallabhgarh to fall.

The way they've built it up, the reasoning has to be a little.......grander?

True you are right there that it has to be grander. Maybe that new plant creates enough issues which means tragedy for Mahavir Anusiya and queen and king. On this side DT trying to make sense of what’s happening. No job, no money, no home will be stressful and wonder how that would be overcome?

Until now this show has not disappointed me in terms of ITV standards. They also don’t drag plots which is good.

Maybe because of stress in his married life and no support from Dhruv and Tara in terms of showing rationale Mahavir makes bad decisions which ultimately brings the demise of the kingdom?

Btw, that new promo again stresses the Radha Krishna part

The opening words from the voice over

"Apne kanhaiya ka haath jab jab thaamti hai koi radha; unki prem ki raah mein aati hai ek badha "

And then "Be-reham Samay ka kuch alag hai iraada" after D-T decided to "challenge" the time portal.

Originally posted by: aekiel

Btw, that new promo again stresses the Radha Krishna part

The opening words from the voice over

"Apne kanhaiya ka haath jab jab thaamti hai koi radha; unki prem ki raah mein aati hai ek badha "

And then "Be-reham Samay ka kuch alag hai iraada" after D-T decided to "challenge" the time portal.

Ya and that’s why I think this DT are destined to be together as they are blessed by god himself.

The last line says “Kya unka milan layega vinash or something I didn’t understand that last couple words”. So basically when eternal love is connected then they have to face roadblocks and maybe how together they overcome it.