Mahima, Manjari, Surekha and Abhinav - Page 2

Agree everything 💯 you said in your post. Very nicely put.

Mahima, Manjiri, surekha all were used nicely.

Abhinav wins my heart in every episode ❤️. The way this guy handles situations, his relationships, his patience is truly astonishing.

But I didn't like how Akshara blurred out truth of their relationship Infront of everyone. If there was dialogue from majiri like you were living happy married life and all and then it came out it would have made sense but it came from no where. She made joke of Abhinav Infront of everyone. I know she doesn't like Abhimanyu anymore but she can't accept Abhinav also fully as her husband. She uses him more as Abhirs father and her haq. She wants to have that cake but don't want to eat too. If she would have moved on with Abhinav then I would have trusted makers that they will not unite Abhira so easily. But instead they made Akshnav a joke and back to stupid teenager type tashans in precap. Didn't we see when Abhimanyu met with accident how Paro runs so in custody battle one hint and this lady will run again.

I know in reality physical relationship hardly matters but on ITV it does. As long as FL is still pavitra there is always chance of going back to her soul love. And they made it clear today to birlas that yeah she is pavitra naari.

And how can we forget the Aarohis wedding. She claimed her sister was everything was her pushed her to marry Abhimanyu, pushed Abhimanyu to marry Aarohi but one stunt from her hero and she dumped her on marriage day. Then all we saw was both leads selfishness and that same sister became no one from everything. Ok that time I believed that Aarohi was at fault too but don't want Abhinav to became victim of the leads selfishness. I got that feeling today from episode and precap. What is needed is just one mistake Abhinav makes or Abhimanyus accident and the selfishness game will start.

Sorry for long post.

Originally posted by: WhtsinAname

My fav scene of today was Mahima showing Manjari her real face. Its very easy to preach people and very difficult to walk on those same lines.....dts what stands true for Manjari. She is only righteous when it comes to giving advice to others. But when it comes to her and her laadla pallu se bandha son......all righteousness goes to hell. Only she and her son are the victims. I loved the whole If u are ryt , I ws ryt too and if I was wrong , den you are wrong too....dialogue by Mahima.

The only other scene I liked was AbhiN 's. He was accused , blamed and put down. And to top it , Ak literally made their relationship look so weak in front of others. It doesnt matter if she cant take the relationship forward but whatever it ws it should hv remained in between them. Now its all out infront of others. For Ak ....its still her family but for AbhiN .....its a whole load of strangers ....he was made to look like a fraud infront of. Today I could see how AbhiN will soon be sidelined and let go. The same Ak who gave him a family bcz she needed one , will be the one who will take it all away from him. Not blaming Ak but I felt extremely bad fr AbhiN.

Lastly , abt people saying Ak will realise how AbhiM felt on his bro's death . These people dont see Ak just like AbhiM and Manjiri didnt. Ak also went through a trauma. She too lost Neil. She miscarriaged. But noone in that family saw her pain. Instead she was punished and thrown out, divorced . I liked the scene where Ak had asked if AbhiM would hv divorced Neil too....had Ak died in dt accident. Dts the truth. Ak ws thrown out bcz she was considered disposable. She was never given that respect of either a life partner or a daughter in law. She was just a "thing" in their life which could be used when needed and thrown out when broken. Thats harsh but dts what it has been.....and still is.

Still she will end up goin bck to dt house again !!! Dts what frustrates me. I would prefer her living alone than goin bck .

Bold 1. Seriously! It's so annoying when Abhimanyu stans keep harping about Akshara's remorse and redemption. Like dude, the has literally been serving her punishment for all these years and they still want her to suffer more.

Bold 2. Exactly! When Manjari told Akshara pre leap that "tu gayi bhi toh mere bete ko saath kyun leke gayi". It's clearly meant that she would have rather preferred Akshara dead than Neil. If she really considered Akshara her daughter, how was she okay with losing her?

Originally posted by: Ekahriz

These are the people I want to talk about today.

Mahima

Loved it how she showed Manjari the mirror. The dialogues were perfect. Manjari couldn't utter a word. It also showed her how wrong she is. Her hypocrisy, her double standards. I mean Manjari's baashan to Mahima that day was some self righteous performance. It's like only she knows what it means to be a mom. Mahima doesn't, Akshara doesn't. Only she does.

Manjari

People will keep crying Manjari's pain is bigger because she lost her 30 year old son, but I disagree. Neil wasn't even important to her. She always let him get treated like crap. That boy was traumatised for life, Aarohi found it easier to manipulate him. She latched on to Ruhi, because she lost her khoon ka grandchildren and there was no chance of Abhimanyu marrying. And pushing Abhimanyu closer and closer to Ruhi, she is literally erasing Neil's existence. She continously worries about Abhimanyu and blames Akshara for his plight. But not even it is shown her sadness reminiscing Neil. Now that her khoon ka grandchild has entered, she is gonna forget Ruhi and Aarohi. Manjari is pretty vile and selfish, guys. And the way she tells Mahima, if you have something to say, say it stop giving me taane. I was like woman, you are constantly passive aggressive and actively aggressive to Akshara and anyone who doesn't dance according to yours and your son's whims! Also, loved it how Akshara held on to Abhir, when Manjari tried to move towards him. Manjari always puppeteerd Abhimanyu. She should see how it feels when the mother monopolies a child and decides who he can interact with, love and have relations with. How she pulled Abhimanyu's strings to get him to do things. And why would Akshara give a chance to Manjari right? No woman in her right mind will, after being called a murderer and being treated like shit.

Surekha

The one with truth bombs. I like it she keeps giving reality checks to Goenkas. Since Goenkas like to pretend all is well, when inside it is rotting.

I agree with everything she said about the situation of Abhimanyu and Aarohi and Abhinav. But not really Akshara. I don't think Akshara wants to go back to Abhimanyu. She locked her heart to love and she found everything in Abhir. And like she told Swarna, she was taking steps to move on, when Abhir's illness surfaced, so they had to put a brief stop. I don't think she wants to go to Birla family again.

Abhinav

He is definitely the best guy. It is so sad to see him like that. He wasn't aggressive or passive aggressive against Akshara. He came and he told her the truth about how he was feeling upset and ashamed and awkward about facing other people that they know the truth now. But he also understands that Akshara didn't do it knowingly that it came out of an emotionally charged mind. Imagine if it was Abhimanyu? Remember the scene where badepapa has a heart attack after Abhimanyu acts like a goon infront of Goenka house screaming and making a ruckus. That night Akshara is crying, saying why is my love hurting everyone, what kind of love is this, if it is only giving pain to the people who raised me. Her bade papa was freaking fighting death, she was devastated that she caused it. And what did Abhimanyu do? The moment he heard that he got all passive aggressive. Suddenly Abhimanyu became the victim. And Akshara's sadness doesn't matter, she is running after apologising him. Girls, who wants a relationship like that where it is all about one person?

Responding to a thread

Also, I read, (I don't wanna take names) in a post that in a hypothetical situation about Abhinav's death somehow indirectly caused by or in a situation where Abhimanyu was present and couldn't rescue him, Akshara will blame him and then she will understand the pain Abhimanyu went through.

So, to respond to that what I have to say is, first of all Akshara is supposed to be as important to Abhimanyu and Manjari like Neil. Akshara also lost her brother and her babies. Like Akshara clearly asked Abhimanyu at the temple, whether it was she who died, would he throw Neil out of the house. Or imagine, if Akshara's miscarriage or death was caused by Manjari, will Abhimanyu cut all ties with her? No, he won't. Instead he will say, no maa it was not your fault. Haalat hi aisa thaa. And then he would be depressed, his mom will be sad seeing her son's sadness. But no he won't cut his ties with his mom. But in Akshara's case, it is easy, no? He never considered her as family. He considered her as something he possessed which he can throw when it doesn't work like the way he wanted.

Precap

Who are writing these dialogues? Why do they talk like stupid teenagers and not grown ass adults?

It's like I love you, no I love you more, I love you as much as the world, no, I love you as much as the universe.🙄

Same way, Akshara goes like my zid will shake this world and Abhimanyu is like and mine will shake that world too. What the hell? Grow up you two

First, learn to talk like adults and not bloody teenagers.

Loved Mahima today....apt dalogs the and she did not let manjari speak...😂

i m amazed at swarna...I mean what kind of a lady is she??? when she comed to akshu's room,instead of saying sorry, she is acting arrogant...ki I am not here for sawal pochne ya ilzaam lagane...I mena...akshu, ur granddaughter was away and trusted a stranger and u have nothing to say about it??

akshu's decision of not returning to Goenka house has been justified again!!!

also loved the way abhinav and akshu acted as a unit for abhir, even when the secret was out in open...with their eye talk, their focus was just abhir....

Originally posted by: MyThoughts

I thought they were fighting for cake not kid.. I am telling you, the court should give sole custody of Abhir to AbhiN...

Originally posted by: Krinya

What level of shameless ppl are goenkas ? After hearing her side of the story , they still don't sympathize with akshu? Hadh hi hai.

I'm certain there is only abhir who can truly show mummy bachu the mirror. When he will refuse to accept him as a father and live with them , saari akad nikal jayegi khoon ke papa ki. They don't even consider his medical condition before putting him through so much trauma. I hope akshu has a strong case but..hoping against hope..I think at the end of it , she will go bk to abhim .

@Ekahriz , loved your thoughts on the characters and some of the posts on the forum .. certain specific points resonated so much because I had felt those but did not verbalise it at that time as I was not on the forum and bringing those points again now when as it is I have issues with Abhimanyu would just cause more arguments.. but felt good to see them expressed here .: will write separately on those points .. specifically the heart attack one, Mahima and this whole hullaballoo about the romance and sex in Akshara’s relationship with Nav..

@Peacefullove I agree that AK also wronged Arohi on the wedding day although she did what she did because she was in love with a guy who gaslighted her very effectively on the said day .. But, I think it is not at all fair to say she pushed Arohi abd Abhimabyu for the wedding .. she really had no hand in the wedding getting finalised .. and she only played the part any sister would play in a wedding minus the harassment she had to go through every step of the wedding and Arohi getting scatterbrained with other schemes when her big sapna was getting fulfilled .. she did not need to push Arohi .. she just stepped aside as she didn’t want to further tangle an already tangled relationship for a guy whom she met just a week before .. and Arohi stepped in and Abhimanyu anyway has brains of god knows what that he decided to go and marry the only other woman he knows who happens to be sister of his eternal

Love .. all Akshara did was remind him that he is now Jija and it was his decision and to stay in his limits and be normal with her because now there is a relationship .. I don’t know where people saw her pushing either of them into the marriage .. they went into it with their eyes open and knowing what each of them were going into it for .. Akshara was probably foolish, but her feelings for Abhimanyu made her run to him when she thought he would harm himself abd she was as per my assessment a girl who probably just completed her PG or something in some music or psychology related field .. that education part is just my guess as she was coming back after three years ,.. I assumed she went somewhere to study and as Arohi just completed MBBS and she is elder, I assumed it must be PG .. don’t know if she was just working Firestone NGO after college .. but she was a fairly young girl with stars in her eyes and May be utopian ideals who thought making other people happy will fill the void in her life .. and compensate for the accusations of being the eternal pain giver .. and if Abhinav has been more than good to her , she has been really really good to him too .. and that is her basic nature as well ..

Originally posted by: solembaum

@Ekahriz , loved your thoughts on the characters and some of the posts on the forum .. certain specific points resonated so much because I had felt those but did not verbalise it at that time as I was not on the forum and bringing those points again now when as it is I have issues with Abhimanyu would just cause more arguments.. but felt good to see them expressed here .: will write separately on those points .. specifically the heart attack one, Mahima and this whole hullaballoo about the romance and sex in Akshara’s relationship with Nav..

@Peacefullove I agree that AK also wronged Arohi on the wedding day although she did what she did because she was in love with a guy who gaslighted her very effectively on the said day .. But, I think it is not at all fair to say she pushed Arohi abd Abhimabyu for the wedding .. she really had no hand in the wedding getting finalised .. and she only played the part any sister would play in a wedding minus the harassment she had to go through every step of the wedding and Arohi getting scatterbrained with other schemes when her big sapna was getting fulfilled .. she did not need to push Arohi .. she just stepped aside as she didn’t want to further tangle an already tangled relationship for a guy whom she met just a week before .. and Arohi stepped in and Abhimanyu anyway has brains of god knows what that he decided to go and marry the only other woman he knows who happens to be sister of his eternal

Love .. all Akshara did was remind him that he is now Jija and it was his decision and to stay in his limits and be normal with her because now there is a relationship .. I don’t know where people saw her pushing either of them into the marriage .. they went into it with their eyes open and knowing what each of them were going into it for .. Akshara was probably foolish, but her feelings for Abhimanyu made her run to him when she thought he would harm himself abd she was as per my assessment a girl who probably just completed her PG or something in some music or psychology related field .. that education part is just my guess as she was coming back after three years ,.. I assumed she went somewhere to study and as Arohi just completed MBBS and she is elder, I assumed it must be PG .. don’t know if she was just working Firestone NGO after college .. but she was a fairly young girl with stars in her eyes and May be utopian ideals who thought making other people happy will fill the void in her life .. and compensate for the accusations of being the eternal pain giver .. and if Abhinav has been more than good to her , she has been really really good to him too .. and that is her basic nature as well ..

Sorry I put it wrong way. Your right. Akshara didn't push but what I meant is if she really loved Abhimanyu she should have said no to Aarohis schemes and moved forward but she sacrificed. And at last moment on marriage day and after that she did that anyways but I feel she could have done little early.

But yeah all your points are valid.

Coming back to this post because I really wanted to talk about your points - loved Mahima asking those questions to Manjari although Mata still has no introspection or retrospection after Akshara’s conversation or Mahima’s questions ..

And Manjari - while she had some form of love for Neel I felt right from the start how she as the primary care giver to an adopted child is a party to the mental abuse that the kid was facing in that house by keeping quiet and just crying and wringing hands .. you don’t even see her making an attempt through Mahima or Anand about the situation .. it almost used to feel like she thinks she is doing a great job by doing aww my baby type of stuff and feeding him good food and having nice chit chat about her domestic worries to him is good enough as upbringing .. adopted children are in all healthy families , introduced as the child of the family and the great Birlas didn’t even inteoduce him and when asked kiska beta hai , they just looked awkward and said bête jaisa hai .. poor guy .. no one to stand up for him other than Abhimanyu when he is around and that too does not really achieve anything other than stop that particular tirade for that moment .. no one was bothered about him having a career or making something of himself till Harsh very harshly made it like you are eating muft ki roti start doing something for hospital .. but now it is like so much pyaar .. when he said Manjari wronged him also neither Maa nor her ladla beta even acknowledged that she was at fault .. it was again like Neel was being ehsaan faramosh to the lady who brought her souten’s son home .. no wonder Arohi could manipulate him ..

Now coming to you talking about Manish”s heart attack , Akshara feeling guilty and saying she never thought her pyaar can be destructive to her family and Abhi going all indignant and making it out like her pyaar is questionable - it was definitely one of those sequences in the pre wedding portion that I thought Abhimanyu escalated things unnecessarily .. I don’t know if it is a popular opinion .. but I really didn’t understand why it was acceptable for him to create such a ruckus and a public spectacle in front of her house when her family is already unhappy about the valentines thing .. what was he hoping to gain by it? And Akshu had gone against her family to court arrest so her bade papa will withdraw the case .. and still he started doubting his importance in her life the moment she said she felt guilty about bade papa .. I guess since bacchu always finds other people to blame for things that he does , I guess he couldn’t fathom why she would feel guilty … and comparatively Abhimav seemed to not blame her for what happened ..

And Surekha.. I honestly don’t know how she thinks when Abhimanyu does not even seem to have any remorse and when he threw her out after miscarriage how do they think that they should be together ? Wouldn’t that then become like because we share a baccha ? Can’t it be just due to her trauma of what love gave her that she is not interested in love and romance ? It is fine if there is a conversation about it .. but without that how do you assume such things ? I don’t know ..

And the last part .. about Akshara’s culpability and righteousness and normalcy of Abhimanyu’s actions . Thank you so much for saying this. Really isn’t Akshara supposed to be his family ? And didn’t he know how close Akshara and Neel were ? How are people behaving like Akshara lost just the kids, Abhimanyu lost 3 people and so his pain is bigger and it was understandable that he threw her out and didn’t even rethink even after 3-4 months? I am sure no one would divorce Neel if Skshara died .. the same people will say it was her own fault that she died .. anyway I feel quite sad that not a single person except KV to a small extent even thinks about Akshara .. her plight when divorced after miscarriage is just over looked sbd that also becomes about the sec life of the couple .. I don’t know what to say..
And really whoever is writing the dialogues has absolutely no sense .. more juvenile crap on such a serious and sensitive issue ..

thank you for this thread ..

Originally posted by: Ekahriz

These are the people I want to talk about today.

Mahima

Loved it how she showed Manjari the mirror. The dialogues were perfect. Manjari couldn't utter a word. It also showed her how wrong she is. Her hypocrisy, her double standards. I mean Manjari's baashan to Mahima that day was some self righteous performance. It's like only she knows what it means to be a mom. Mahima doesn't, Akshara doesn't. Only she does.

Manjari

People will keep crying Manjari's pain is bigger because she lost her 30 year old son, but I disagree. Neil wasn't even important to her. She always let him get treated like crap. That boy was traumatised for life, Aarohi found it easier to manipulate him. She latched on to Ruhi, because she lost her khoon ka grandchildren and there was no chance of Abhimanyu marrying. And pushing Abhimanyu closer and closer to Ruhi, she is literally erasing Neil's existence. She continously worries about Abhimanyu and blames Akshara for his plight. But not even it is shown her sadness reminiscing Neil. Now that her khoon ka grandchild has entered, she is gonna forget Ruhi and Aarohi. Manjari is pretty vile and selfish, guys. And the way she tells Mahima, if you have something to say, say it stop giving me taane. I was like woman, you are constantly passive aggressive and actively aggressive to Akshara and anyone who doesn't dance according to yours and your son's whims! Also, loved it how Akshara held on to Abhir, when Manjari tried to move towards him. Manjari always puppeteerd Abhimanyu. She should see how it feels when the mother monopolies a child and decides who he can interact with, love and have relations with. How she pulled Abhimanyu's strings to get him to do things. And why would Akshara give a chance to Manjari right? No woman in her right mind will, after being called a murderer and being treated like shit.

Surekha

The one with truth bombs. I like it she keeps giving reality checks to Goenkas. Since Goenkas like to pretend all is well, when inside it is rotting.

I agree with everything she said about the situation of Abhimanyu and Aarohi and Abhinav. But not really Akshara. I don't think Akshara wants to go back to Abhimanyu. She locked her heart to love and she found everything in Abhir. And like she told Swarna, she was taking steps to move on, when Abhir's illness surfaced, so they had to put a brief stop. I don't think she wants to go to Birla family again.

Abhinav

He is definitely the best guy. It is so sad to see him like that. He wasn't aggressive or passive aggressive against Akshara. He came and he told her the truth about how he was feeling upset and ashamed and awkward about facing other people that they know the truth now. But he also understands that Akshara didn't do it knowingly that it came out of an emotionally charged mind. Imagine if it was Abhimanyu? Remember the scene where badepapa has a heart attack after Abhimanyu acts like a goon infront of Goenka house screaming and making a ruckus. That night Akshara is crying, saying why is my love hurting everyone, what kind of love is this, if it is only giving pain to the people who raised me. Her bade papa was freaking fighting death, she was devastated that she caused it. And what did Abhimanyu do? The moment he heard that he got all passive aggressive. Suddenly Abhimanyu became the victim. And Akshara's sadness doesn't matter, she is running after apologising him. Girls, who wants a relationship like that where it is all about one person?

Responding to a thread

Also, I read, (I don't wanna take names) in a post that in a hypothetical situation about Abhinav's death somehow indirectly caused by or in a situation where Abhimanyu was present and couldn't rescue him, Akshara will blame him and then she will understand the pain Abhimanyu went through.

So, to respond to that what I have to say is, first of all Akshara is supposed to be as important to Abhimanyu and Manjari like Neil. Akshara also lost her brother and her babies. Like Akshara clearly asked Abhimanyu at the temple, whether it was she who died, would he throw Neil out of the house. Or imagine, if Akshara's miscarriage or death was caused by Manjari, will Abhimanyu cut all ties with her? No, he won't. Instead he will say, no maa it was not your fault. Haalat hi aisa thaa. And then he would be depressed, his mom will be sad seeing her son's sadness. But no he won't cut his ties with his mom. But in Akshara's case, it is easy, no? He never considered her as family. He considered her as something he possessed which he can throw when it doesn't work like the way he wanted.

Precap

Who are writing these dialogues? Why do they talk like stupid teenagers and not grown ass adults?

It's like I love you, no I love you more, I love you as much as the world, no, I love you as much as the universe.🙄

Same way, Akshara goes like my zid will shake this world and Abhimanyu is like and mine will shake that world too. What the hell? Grow up you two

First, learn to talk like adults and not bloody teenagers.

Originally posted by: solembaum

Coming back to this post because I really wanted to talk about your points - loved Mahima asking those questions to Manjari although Mata still has no introspection or retrospection after Akshara’s conversation or Mahima’s questions ..

And Manjari - while she had some form of love for Neel I felt right from the start how she as the primary care giver to an adopted child is a party to the mental abuse that the kid was facing in that house by keeping quiet and just crying and wringing hands .. you don’t even see her making an attempt through Mahima or Anand about the situation .. it almost used to feel like she thinks she is doing a great job by doing aww my baby type of stuff and feeding him good food and having nice chit chat about her domestic worries to him is good enough as upbringing .. adopted children are in all healthy families , introduced as the child of the family and the great Birlas didn’t even inteoduce him and when asked kiska beta hai , they just looked awkward and said bête jaisa hai .. poor guy .. no one to stand up for him other than Abhimanyu when he is around and that too does not really achieve anything other than stop that particular tirade for that moment .. no one was bothered about him having a career or making something of himself till Harsh very harshly made it like you are eating muft ki roti start doing something for hospital .. but now it is like so much pyaar .. when he said Manjari wronged him also neither Maa nor her ladla beta even acknowledged that she was at fault .. it was again like Neel was being ehsaan faramosh to the lady who brought her souten’s son home .. no wonder Arohi could manipulate him ..

Now coming to you talking about Manish”s heart attack , Akshara feeling guilty and saying she never thought her pyaar can be destructive to her family and Abhi going all indignant and making it out like her pyaar is questionable - it was definitely one of those sequences in the pre wedding portion that I thought Abhimanyu escalated things unnecessarily .. I don’t know if it is a popular opinion .. but I really didn’t understand why it was acceptable for him to create such a ruckus and a public spectacle in front of her house when her family is already unhappy about the valentines thing .. what was he hoping to gain by it? And Akshu had gone against her family to court arrest so her bade papa will withdraw the case .. and still he started doubting his importance in her life the moment she said she felt guilty about bade papa .. I guess since bacchu always finds other people to blame for things that he does , I guess he couldn’t fathom why she would feel guilty … and comparatively Abhimav seemed to not blame her for what happened ..

Thanks for replying.

I never really liked Manjari. She is exactly what Abhinav is usually accused of being. Like she pretends to do good things and expect to be praised for it by everyone. She was praised for raising all the children. She was praised for making Abhimanyu a doctor. Even though none of the other kids ended up having a emotionally healthy life or became doctors. Only Manjari's did become doctor. Though he is the most effed up. Kyun? Because she is special.

She always accused Mahima for not being a good mother, but I have never seen fingers pointed at Anand or Harsh for not fulfilling their duties. She raised all of them and let's just see. Anisha stayed away from home, only to come back and die. Parth was literally a naalayak. He was into music but she wasn't even pushing him to do anything in the field. She didn't try to help Neil either in that sense. She also exhibited so much pride in how her beta was the best surgeon.

I still remember the scene where she says, she is the luckiest mother, as no one else has a son like Abhimanyu when Parth and Neil was standing right there.

She acts like she is a goddess and selflessness ki murti because she adopted Neil. But it does feel like she was taking revenge from Harsh, as someone suggested. It was heartbreaking to see every time he cried saying he doesn't have anyone. And when he questioned Manjari after his paternity truth came out, Abhimanyu stopped Neil. He kept saying maa did it for your own good. Maa gave you a home, she gave you a family and all that nonsense. Let me tell you. Abhimanyu can go to any extend to defend his mom. Even if Manjari takes a knife and slits Akshara's throat infront of a thousand people, he would still say it slipped from her hand and accidentally fell on Akshara and "Maa aap ki koi galati nahi hai, halaat hi aisa tha"

To address Abhimanyu's OTT reaction, there are numerous scenes. One was bade papa's heart attack. Another was Kairav breaking up with Anisha. When Abhimanyu manhandled Kairav for his sister, Akshara stopped and pushed Abhimanyu away from Kairav and questioned him for attacking Kairav. Abhimanyu couldn't take she took a stand against him for her brother. It's her bloody brother, dude. You entered her life yesterday. He has been there since she was born, especially considering she didn't have parents.

Another scene where he was pushing Manjari to divorce Harsh. He kept pushing her to do it and Manjari clearly was not ready. The decision had to come from her and she needed that space. When he kept pushing her over and over, Akshu said you are acting just like your father. And to be honest he was. He lost his shit, he fought with her, threw things and stopped talking to her.

He keeps doing these things to her. Gaslighting her over and over again. You know these people, right? I mean we all might have had them in our lives at some point. They wronged us but when we question them, they gaslight us and make us believe they are the victims and we will end up apologising feeling guilty. But then a pattern develops. Some people realise it on their own, but for some people an outsider has to point this pattern out. This was Akshara’s and Abhimanyu's relationship. Abhimanyu puppeetering Akshara and acting like a victim all the time. It's a basic trait of a narcissistic which is kind of obvious because it has always been mein, meri maa, meri Akshu, now it is mera beta! It is always I me myself and mine for Abhimanyu. Others are things he own.

Oh tell me about her child raising skills .. it was mentioned by all and sundry that she raised the kids but no one pointed out till date how not even a single one turned out to be uncomplicated , normal and happy people .. and forget material success .. only her real son achieved material success .. but even he couldn’t escape the daily toxicity his mom and dad were subjecting him to .. Parth was an insecure husband who kept nagging abd botching about his working wife and never trying to support her or understand her .. true he was one of the chachi bhakts at that time and supposedly non material etc .. but idle mind is a devils workshop .. and he never tried doing anything about his dreams other than refusing to work in the hospital .. no step taken to do something .. Manjari spent time with him

Pruning flowers and discussing potential brides for Abhi and distributing her general gyan ki

Moti on shaadi .. not even once did she try to use her influence on Parth to make his relationship with Shefali better nor did she take him to task for his constant taunts .. Anisha- felt o one understood her ran Away, Cane back , ran away again , came back with the intent to trap a perfectly decent guy into a marriage designed to allow her affair with a married man flourish , then didn’t have the guts to talk about it and fell to her death condemning a really straightforward guy to trauma, abuse, accusations, jail and what not .. Neel .. poor guy .. again no career , no one really giving him emotional support .. always a glorified errand boy for Birlas .. I don’t know what kind of mother she has been to any of them.. but kisiki majaal hai Maa ko kucch bole.. Sahi ho ya galat beta ithokke khafa ho Jaata hai .. he says when peel accuse her he feels like cutting his head off ! I and now they want to take a well brought up child to this toxic family and create another Birla

Originally posted by: Ekahriz

Thanks for replying.

I never really liked Manjari. She is exactly what Abhinav is usually accused of being. Like she pretends to do good things and expect to be praised for it by everyone. She was praised for raising all the children. She was praised for making Abhimanyu a doctor. Even though none of the other kids ended up having a emotionally healthy life or became doctors. Only Manjari's did become doctor. Though he is the most effed up. Kyun? Because she is special.

She always accused Mahima for not being a good mother, but I have never seen fingers pointed at Anand or Harsh for not fulfilling their duties. She raised all of them and let's just see. Anisha stayed away from home, only to come back and die. Parth was literally a naalayak. He was into music but she wasn't even pushing him to do anything in the field. She didn't try to help Neil either in that sense. She also exhibited so much pride in how her beta was the best surgeon.

I still remember the scene where she says, she is the luckiest mother, as no one else has a son like Abhimanyu when Parth and Neil was standing right there.

She acts like she is a goddess and selflessness ki murti because she adopted Neil. But it does feel like she was taking revenge from Harsh, as someone suggested. It was heartbreaking to see every time he cried saying he doesn't have anyone. And when he questioned Manjari after his paternity truth came out, Abhimanyu stopped Neil. He kept saying maa did it for your own good. Maa gave you a home, she gave you a family and all that nonsense. Let me tell you. Abhimanyu can go to any extend to defend his mom. Even if Manjari takes a knife and slits Akshara's throat infront of a thousand people, he would still say it slipped from her hand and accidentally fell on Akshara and "Maa aap ki koi galati nahi hai, halaat hi aisa tha"

To address Abhimanyu's OTT reaction, there are numerous scenes. One was bade papa's heart attack. Another was Kairav breaking up with Anisha. When Abhimanyu manhandled Kairav for his sister, Akshara stopped and pushed Abhimanyu away from Kairav and questioned him for attacking Kairav. Abhimanyu couldn't take she took a stand against him for her brother. It's her bloody brother, dude. You entered her life yesterday. He has been there since she was born, especially considering she didn't have parents.

Another scene where he was pushing Manjari to divorce Harsh. He kept pushing her to do it and Manjari clearly was not ready. The decision had to come from her and she needed that space. When he kept pushing her over and over, Akshu said you are acting just like your father. And to be honest he was. He lost his shit, he fought with her, threw things and stopped talking to her.

He keeps doing these things to her. Gaslighting her over and over again. You know these people, right? I mean we all might have had them in our lives at some point. They wronged us but when we question them, they gaslight us and make us believe they are the victims and we will end up apologising feeling guilty. But then a pattern develops. Some people realise it on their own, but for some people an outsider has to point this pattern out. This was Akshara’s and Abhimanyu's relationship. Abhimanyu puppeetering Akshara and acting like a victim all the time. It's a basic trait of a narcissistic which is kind of obvious because it has always been mein, meri maa, meri Akshu, now it is mera beta! It is always I me myself and mine for Abhimanyu. Others are things he own.