Pain of a mother - Page 3

Originally posted by: Krinya

On one hand we downplay the emotions of foster father ...just bec he is standing between abhira , he is not so acha admi, lactating mother , blah blah so on...

Wasn't manjari ALSO a foster parent to neil ? Howcome her pain is more than aksharas ?

Charu,

I am not a part of the group who does that, please don't involve me in fandom fights

I only fight for Shah Rukh Khan

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Akshara's dialogue - If you had cared to come and look for your daughter, you would have found your daughter with your grandchild

I am sensing a disconnect between my post and replies to it, everyone is talking about Akshara on white day but I am talking about her dialogues in tonight's episode

Why would Manjari go and look for her when both were going through pain of losing their loved ones?

The pain of a mother applies to both therefore this particular scene didn't make any sense to me

Only if they cared to see her as a daughter , this situation wouldn't have arisen . But they treated her like a lowlife , a baby making machine..even today , ma beta r there for abhir but not for akshara .

If manjari actually treated akshu as a daughter she would forgive her , think of her pain, her condition, her trauma ..just as she is standing there defending her sons rights , whT about aksharas at that time ? If it was akshu who was dead that day will she throw out Neil or not bring him back if abhimanyu did? There is a whole lot of diff in calling someone daughter and treating them as one .

A parent absorbs all weaknesses , all mistakes of their children , while a dil is always judged , accused and misunderstood no matter how good a person she is.

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Charu,

I am not a part of the group who does that, please don't involve me in fandom fights

I only fight for Shah Rukh Khan

I like that 😆

Sorry for bringing it up ..but akshu never downplayed anybodys pain..she just said that she was also in pain for whatever happened that day but she was treated inhuman . The only person who shd have understood and stand by her is abhim bec the mil can always treat their dils like manjari its no big deal.... He had a lot of time to process this , If he wanted , he cud at least hear her out on the phone or call her again ..its clearly his fault that abhir was kept hidden from him

I have no idea what happened in first part of the whiteday, but again I see lot of people wanting Akshu to feel guilty or redeemed about it...

Here is the thing, Akshu jumped in to probably save some girls' future. Agreed, she shouldn't have done that during her complicated pregnancy but the fact that she seems to have been "Achi Aurat" decided to atleast try. Had things not turned ugly, she would have been celebrated, but since it turned out to be huge mess - there is scope of guilt. Now, imagine reaction of girls who were saved, they wouldn't say Akshu was wrong... So right or wrong in the case of Akshu was purely a perspective from where a person sees it.. It would be right for some (atleast trying or having that courage) and wrong for others... Some people are like that! It's their characteristic...!

So, I would say that she has been punished enough by those who thought she was wrong and fate, who thought she was right, just blessed her.. No, her 6 years of life may have not been bed of roses... As we have seen, princess of Udaipur was shown struggling financially to balance her study, business, child's school and namesake husband ki acchai were people kept duping him... Again now this is perspective - some may call it a punishment, some may see how happy she is and won over problems and call it a blessing.

On the other side was Manjiri, she lost one son and probably kept Abhimanyu in guilt that just because you married Akshu, we lost Neil... She ensured that he overcompensates to Ruhi as well... Abhimanyu had a chance at fatherhood with Ruhi but khair.. But mumma ki chal rahi hai toh jaane dete hai...

Mother's pain should have been a lesson... Let not another child suffer because they lost one child... Akshu did that.. She took care of Abhir forgetting pain of losing her one child, brother in law, and family whereas Manjiri did exact opposite she fostered (purposely or unknowingly) that his love ruined all the happiness of the house and its his responsibility to now compensate by taking care of Ruhi...

And that's lot of rambling... And I am not even sure if it makes sense😆

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I would like to point out there is no need of AbhiM to share with Manjiri that Akshara tried to contact him. Because Manjiri herself knew it very well. After the white day there were many times AbhiM’s phone rang and AbhiM looked at it unsure whether he should pick up but then it was Manjiri who made mad lady faces as if threatening Abhi how can he pick up her phone and that pushed him not to pick up at the end. you can watch the old episodes just before leap.

I think Manjiri's pain is being acknowledged in the show. Her dialogues to Abhinav in the hospital or Kairav in Mimi's birthday. Also, the Maa justification that she gets for her behaviour.

The characters acknowledge it too. Atleast that's why I thought Abhimanyu keeps quiet around her even when he doesn't agree / completely agree with her so as to not increase her pain. Akshara sat for Neil's prayers and would probably not only acknowledge but also also share Manjiri's pain if allowed to. The thing is that Manjiri lashes out on everyone and then people just prefer keeping quiet instead of outwardly acknowledging anything. Plus with the birthday celebration (before leap) and the constant Abhimanyu - Aarohi wedding chant, it's like she herself doesn't remember the pain as much as the blame.

I feel more for Akshara because she doesn't demean anyone because she has suffered while Manjari does that and herself causes a lot of pain to others intentionally and unintentionally.

No, Manjari would have not understood Akshara’s pain at that time because she herself was grieving the loss of her son but why didn’t she try to find out later where/how she is?

It’s normal for people to blame others for someone’s death and Akshara to be blamed at that time was not unusual. However, once you sit down and think about it, it’s almost never anyone’s fault unless they actually killed the person. They were there at the wrong time and Neil being and adult could’ve used his brain as well.

I’m glad Akshara mentioned if Manjari would’ve accepted Akshara after finding out about the baby or merely just for the sake of the baby bring her home and then kick her out after she gave birth? Manjari till this day holds Akshara accountable and has hatred towards her. Her only concern is Abhir lol she wants nothing to do with Akshara nor she understands what she went through.

And this woman had the audacity to question Nav who raised her grandson like his own child? I think it’s not normal for some people to raise others kids like their own so instead of being grateful she started name calling him. Ma’am you raised someone else’s child as your own as well yet you’re questioning him? Why was I expecting her to be like thank you for raising someone else’s son like your own because I did the same lol but no it’s Manjari, she can never be grateful for anything. Plus he didn’t steal your son’s wife or son because she was no longer his wife and he didn’t want anything to do with the son!

Originally posted by: Noorain13

No, Manjari would have not understood Akshara’s pain at that time because she herself was grieving the loss of her son but why didn’t she try to find out later where/how she is?

It’s normal for people to blame others for someone’s death and Akshara to be blamed at that time was not unusual. However, once you sit down and think about it, it’s almost never anyone’s fault unless they actually killed the person. They were there at the wrong time and Neil being and adult could’ve used his brain as well.

I’m glad Akshara mentioned if Manjari would’ve accepted Akshara after finding out about the baby or merely just for the sake of the baby bring her home and then kick her out after she gave birth? Manjari till this day holds Akshara accountable and has hatred towards her. Her only concern is Abhir lol she wants nothing to do with Akshara nor she understands what she went through.

And this woman had the audacity to question Nav who raised her grandson like his own child? I think it’s not normal for some people to raise others kids like their own so instead of being grateful she started name calling him. Ma’am you raised someone else’s child as your own as well yet you’re questioning him? Why was I expecting her to be like thank you for raising someone else’s son like your own because I did the same lol but no it’s Manjari, she can never be grateful for anything. Plus he didn’t steal your son’s wife or son because she was no longer his wife and he didn’t want anything to do with the son!

How can she understand bcoz unlike Nav she has let Neil be mistreated and abused in his own house.

So she definitely doesn't know love and selfless love toh iske lite foreign topic hain.

I really hope Harsh Birla ki entry ho

I am so fedup with this mother-son duo, Abhi standing behind, jese bachpan jinki mumma ladako hoti thi chote chote matters per dusro ki maa se ladne aati hain even when she knows usko khud ka baccha galat hain and woh baccha mazze lene aata hain.

I have not watched all safed raath episodes but i analyze characters by keeping myself in their place. And i have not watched each and every epi so this is majorly based on what i have seen. It may not include some sequence where character behaved differently than what i have seen her. I have even skipped many post marriage manipulation sequence so just a note that i may not know everything.

Manju was raising her step child even after knowing he is her step child which is a bing thing. Abhi was the shield of both neil and manju.

The only problem manju had was she hid this fact but there was not enough justification why she had to do that. It might be a just random plot.

But we can not deny her contributions on upbringing neil as raising a child single handedly is very big thing. When abhinav is getting the tag of palne wala is greated than janam dene wala manju also deserves it.

Nav also hided the fact that he is not abhir's real father with their own justification and Manju also did that with her justification.

On that white day, Neil gave his life to save akshu as akshu was insisting to save those kids on her own. Neil always said he is lakshman for akshu. He used ti stood like rock infront of his ram and sita and protected them.

He did the same on white day. His love and care for akshu and abhi is more than his own life.

The only thing i expected from akshu that day was to say just below lines

"Neil agar tumhe kuch hojayega toh main kya jawab doongi arohi ko. Math jao hum kuch aur sochthe hai"

That's all i wanted from her mouth. If she would have said that it would ahve looked atleast she tried. But she wanted to save those childrens and did not even see that neil is not enough to face 4 strong men standing infront of her.

Neil's only goal was prevent akshu and her kids from jumping into this mess. He also said some dialogues ke main apne bacche ko kya bolunga and all i will not deny that but that came after akshu tried risking herself.

If tomorrow roohi takes abhir and sees a puppy which is stuck in water and rooohi jumps to Save puppy that even after abhir stopping her and abhir being a big brother stops her and goes instead and dies drowning. Will akshu ever be able to forgive roohi if gets to know abhir tried stopping stopping roohi.

I am not sure if birla's know what happend on white day. If they are blaming neil for just taking him to the venue or if they are blaming her for not stopping neil.

I will not blame akshu but i want her to realize her decision to became mahan on that day costed a life. Arohi lost her husband and roohi lost her father. And she should not repeat such mistakes as in future she can risk abhir's life too.

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

I have not watched all safed raath episodes but i analyze characters by keeping myself in their place. And i have not watched each and every epi so this is majorly based on what i have seen. It may not include some sequence where character behaved differently than what i have seen her. I have even skipped many post marriage manipulation sequence so just a note that i may not know everything.

Manju was raising her step child even after knowing he is her step child which is a bing thing. Abhi was the shield of both neil and manju.

The only problem manju had was she hid this fact but there was not enough justification why she had to do that. It might be a just random plot.

But we can not deny her contributions on upbringing neil as raising a child single handedly is very big thing. When abhinav is getting the tag of palne wala is greated than janam dene wala manju also deserves it.

Nav also hided the fact that he is not abhir's real father with their own justification and Manju also did that with her justification.

On that white day, Neil gave his life to save akshu as akshu was insisting to save those kids on her own. Neil always said he is lakshman for akshu. He used ti stood like rock infront of his ram and sita and protected them.

He did the same on white day. His love and care for akshu and abhi is more than his own life.

The only thing i expected from akshu that day was to say just below lines

"Neil agar tumhe kuch hojayega toh main kya jawab doongi arohi ko. Math jao hum kuch aur sochthe hai"

That's all i wanted from her mouth. If she would have said that it would ahve looked atleast she tried. But she wanted to save those childrens and did not even see that neil is not enough to face 4 strong men standing infront of her.

Neil's only goal was prevent akshu and her kids from jumping into this mess. He also said some dialogues ke main apne bacche ko kya bolunga and all i will not deny that but that came after akshu tried risking herself.

If tomorrow roohi takes abhir and sees a puppy which is stuck in water and rooohi jumps to Save puppy that even after abhir stopping her and abhir being a big brother stops her and goes instead and dies drowning. Will akshu ever be able to forgive roohi if gets to know abhir tried stopping stopping roohi.

I am not sure if birla's know what happend on white day. If they are blaming neil for just taking him to the venue or if they are blaming her for not stopping neil.

I will not blame akshu but i want her to realize her decision to became mahan on that day costed a life. Arohi lost her husband and roohi lost her father. And she should not repeat such mistakes as in future she can risk abhir's life too.

Exactly, but then why is she questioning Nav when she did the same herself? She saw Neil getting humiliated by her own father as well deprived of his love yet decided to stay quiet but now questioning Nav for the same thing? Abhir is being raised way better than how Neil was raised.