Episode discussion thread # 20 important note PG 124 - Page 43

Very true sns! ITV shows of 90s before the advent of EK were more rooted in reality! Be it storytelling or costumes, for all my rant - EK ne ITV audience to desensitize kar diya and hum modern audience ko piss off Kar Diya...

But this production house could be different - I don't think they are that big yet so maybe they might take feedback in the right spirit! I have heard PHs that are completely tone deaf (EK leads that trend as well)

But to your point, even if Dev and Vidhi get a better wardrobe, that will be a big win for audience! Let's see how much they are willing to take feedback and make some changes!

#fanpower

Originally posted by: sns23

This is the sad reality of ITV. I don’t think anything that is done will change the direction of the show from the makers perspectives. The only thing that might actually change is Rachana’s wardrobe might get an update. Which I think is a big enough win.

But unfortunately the way ITV has worked (and one might argue successfully so over the last many years) is based on different said/unsaid benchmarks.
A middle class person (and calling the Sharmas middle class is an over exaggeration), wears very simple clothes. a rich person (and per the shows standards, raichands are uber Rich) wear suits or these grand grand outfits. These are things that are prevalent across all shows in all languages on ITV.

Even in this show - Vidhi’s outfits have never been any version of normal - I think you were the one who said it - fatichar or chandelier. I believe that the main target for any/all ITV shows are the TRP audience watching on tv. And for decades they have been sensitized to these unsaid benchmarks, and it’ll take a complete mindset shift across producers/channels etc for us to start seeing a difference.
Back in the day, there were many such shows which met similar fates and I think people did try - but I honestly don’t think it made much of a difference.
I saw a few posts that were around the same topic - sorry I was MIA, it’s been a busy weekend. I do think it’s a good initiative, but I don’t see it really making much of a difference.

I hear you and concur with everything you said. I think we are now at a juncture where we just want the makers to know that here is a group of people who will consume your content only and only if you can produce content that is relatable and logical. Cinematic liberty is one thing but as you rightly pointed out the extremes which do not resonate with us.

Don't know if there are any popular blogs, will look up.. whats happening on this group is worthy enough to be put together as an article somewhere for creatives to know they have got to pivot and NOW!

Originally posted by: sns23

This is the sad reality of ITV. I don’t think anything that is done will change the direction of the show from the makers perspectives. The only thing that might actually change is Rachana’s wardrobe might get an update. Which I think is a big enough win.

But unfortunately the way ITV has worked (and one might argue successfully so over the last many years) is based on different said/unsaid benchmarks.
A middle class person (and calling the Sharmas middle class is an over exaggeration), wears very simple clothes. a rich person (and per the shows standards, raichands are uber Rich) wear suits or these grand grand outfits. These are things that are prevalent across all shows in all languages on ITV.

Even in this show - Vidhi’s outfits have never been any version of normal - I think you were the one who said it - fatichar or chandelier. I believe that the main target for any/all ITV shows are the TRP audience watching on tv. And for decades they have been sensitized to these unsaid benchmarks, and it’ll take a complete mindset shift across producers/channels etc for us to start seeing a difference.
Back in the day, there were many such shows which met similar fates and I think people did try - but I honestly don’t think it made much of a difference.
I saw a few posts that were around the same topic - sorry I was MIA, it’s been a busy weekend. I do think it’s a good initiative, but I don’t see it really making much of a difference.

Yes... that's what we want to see... Dev always knew how Amba is and was able to see through her charade even during Vidhi's fake death track! If you just give him a few days of peace, he will be able to find some way out!

But more drama is the main culprit... Amba ka plan bhi yahi hai, create more drama and tension so that Dev and Vidhi snap! 🤢🤢 but let's see who snaps, karma has to serve Amba too!

Originally posted by: sns23

Very true.

I have another rant now, apologies in advance.

Why can’t they show a couple trying to deal with things in a normal way. Why does it have to be dramatized to this extent. If they show vidhi sticking through - it will be because of what that pandit ji said - not because it is the smart thing to do or the right thing to do. Because divine intervention says so.

If she leaves - it won’t be surprising because that’s the modus operandi of ITV. I am sure that is why they showed that fake SR - more drama possible with a probable pregnancy track.
Dev is a smart man, makers should not shy away from showing smart people actually can accomplish things in life without a sacrificial lamb of a wife. He can fix this mess and do so while keeping his family together.

Originally posted by: mehak-5

lets try our luck .rest just leave on themm.. will you help us on any way...

Every single post here is doing that 😊 trying to get our feedback/opinions about the show to the makers.

I think or atleast it used to be this way a while back, shows do have people reading through IF to understand audience feedback.

I am happy to provide feedback to the production house regarding the show, but I’m not active on SM so I will not be able to help there.

Originally posted by: sns23

Every single post here is doing that 😊 trying to get our feedback/opinions about the show to the makers.

I think or atleast it used to be this way a while back, shows do have people reading through IF to understand audience feedback.

I am happy to provide feedback to the production house regarding the show, but I’m not active on SM so I will not be able to help there.

you are neither on insta , nor on twitter right?

do you watch deepshika mam's live ?

or can u mail on star bharat and production team ?

CAN U DO ANYTHING FROM THE ABOVE OPTIONS ???

LET US KNOW

Originally posted by: Helios10

I hear you and concur with everything you said. I think we are now at a juncture where we just want the makers to know that here is a group of people who will consume your content only and only if you can produce content that is relatable and logical. Cinematic liberty is one thing but as you rightly pointed out the extremes which do not resonate with us.

Don't know if there are any popular blogs, will look up.. whats happening on this group is worthy enough to be put together as an article somewhere for creatives to know they have got to pivot and NOW!

I get that - but that’s precisely what we’re doing here. Every single episode that we watch and provide feedback on counts.

But, I don’t believe that I am the target audience for this show - for that matter none of us who are not watching the show on Star Bharat at 8:00 are. That is where they get their money from - and those are the people who make up their target audience. While I can write essays and articles about how dumb their track is and how they are ruining the show, I am not consuming it on the platform it is intended to be consumed on. If me and others watching the show on Hotstar and Hulu and other OTT platforms was going to be counted in how much money they receive from the channel for this show, it would matter to the makers.

This is precisely why I am not convinced that they are going to make any real changes based on our feedback. If that was the case the trajectory of this show would have been completely different.

My goal here is not to be a negative Nancy - like I said I provide feedback with every episode I watch, and if you think reaching out to the production house directly with feedback might help, I can do that too. But for the channel it is just another show, as it is for the production house.

I watch the show for the actors and the people who are directly involved in making the show. Despite everything, the effort they put is tremendous and as long as I am able to watch the show I will try to do so.

Originally posted by: sns23

I get that - but that’s precisely what we’re doing here. Every single episode that we watch and provide feedback on counts.

But, I don’t believe that I am the target audience for this show - for that matter none of us who are not watching the show on Star Bharat at 8:00 are. That is where they get their money from - and those are the people who make up their target audience. While I can write essays and articles about how dumb their track is and how they are ruining the show, I am not consuming it on the platform it is intended to be consumed on. If me and others watching the show on Hotstar and Hulu and other OTT platforms was going to be counted in how much money they receive from the channel for this show, it would matter to the makers.

This is precisely why I am not convinced that they are going to make any real changes based on our feedback. If that was the case the trajectory of this show would have been completely different.

My goal here is not to be a negative Nancy - like I said I provide feedback with every episode I watch, and if you think reaching out to the production house directly with feedback might help, I can do that too. But for the channel it is just another show, as it is for the production house.

I watch the show for the actors and the people who are directly involved in making the show. Despite everything, the effort they put is tremendous and as long as I am able to watch the show I will try to do so.

You hit the nail on the head.. We have been assuming we are the target audience but the real audience are saas bahu lovers/ worshippers of EK..

But there have been path breaking dramas on ITV before.. For ex: Kuch rang pyaar ke aise bhi... Which started out as a love story... Took a sharp turn and became a saas bahu drama for a while but later evolved as one of the most unconventional show which taught people about healthy boundaries in relationship.. I did not watch season 2...but I'm guessing it catered more to people like us.. The ott watchers..

Nuksh still has the potential to be a pathbreaker if it veers in the right direction.. Coming week might decide the fate..

I really feel bad for IQ. I had not seen any of his shows before.. But tried watching it recently unfortunately his prowess has been limited to a lover boy busy holding tripping FLs.. I would really want to see him in Manoj Vajpayee / pankaj thripathi kind if roles.. Same for Rachna too.. She is too talented to be appearing in such dramas..

The horrid taste of our audience has stunted the skills of actors ☹️. .

Originally posted by: Minami_koi

You hit the nail on the head.. We have been assuming we are the target audience but the real audience are saas bahu lovers/ worshippers of EK..

But there have been path breaking dramas on ITV before.. For ex: Kuch rang pyaar ke aise bhi... Which started out as a love story... Took a sharp turn and became a saas bahu drama for a while but later evolved as one of the most unconventional show which taught people about healthy boundaries in relationship.. I did not watch season 2...but I'm guessing it catered more to people like us.. The ott watchers..

Nuksh still has the potential to be a pathbreaker if it veers in the right direction.. Coming week might decide the fate..

I really feel bad for IQ. I had not seen any of his shows before.. But tried watching it recently unfortunately his prowess has been limited to a lover boy busy holding tripping FLs.. I would really want to see him in Manoj Vajpayee / pankaj thripathi kind if roles.. Same for Rachna too.. She is too talented to be appearing in such dramas..

The horrid taste of our audience has stunted the skills of actors ☹️. .

The actors and techs etc are whom I feel the most for. They put their heart and soul into the show and it comes through in the show. Going so far as to criticize the show on someone’s SM is not something I’m willing to do - they are the faces we see but the show is much more than just them. And they have very little say in how their character or the storyline progresses.

Originally posted by: sns23

The actors and techs etc are whom I feel the most for. They put their heart and soul into the show and it comes through in the show. Going so far as to criticize the show on someone’s SM is not something I’m willing to do - they are the faces we see but the show is much more than just them. And they have very little say in how their character or the storyline progresses.

Somewhere along the line they stop trying too hard and learnt to be content with mediocrity as long as they get their paychecks.

Thanks to internet ott etc.. We are no longer deprived of quality content anymore..

Unfortunately I have become too invested in the show.. But if they keep at what they are doing ... It will be easy for me to wean out eventually.

Originally posted by: Minami_koi

Somewhere along the line they stop trying too hard and learnt to be content with mediocrity as long as they get their paychecks.

Thanks to internet ott etc.. We are no longer deprived of quality content anymore..

Unfortunately I have become too invested in the show.. But if they keep at what they are doing ... It will be easy for me to wean out eventually.

@bold - I think that is bound to happen with shows like this that go on indefinitely. Actors want the popularity and paychecks. We will watch as long as we are invested and eventually will wean off it.

@blue - that’s my story as well. I haven’t tried watching any ITV show recently - this is my first one in over a decade and I got too invested too soon 🤣🤣🤣