Pootna can never be yashoda.. I hope virat gets killed Friday episode - Page 16

Originally posted by: Coolmeg

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Finally finally….. This aspect has been playing in my head for such a LONG time! It is actually the correct way to put surrogacy. I just never liked the reference of Sai as Yashoda earlier pre leap and neither now.

you said it at the end Devaki is the only mother.

Also with P being illegal surrogate and stealing a child to get closer to Devar, there is no way we can even relate her to Rohini either. Rohini was also very pure and loved Balram, knew her place in their life. So did Yashoda, even though she actually lost her girl child.

THANK YOU!!!!

Yes exactly this whole Yashoda analogy is actually very wrong, even though we took out the illegal aspect and all, still Pakhi is not Yashoda in Vinu's life but Rohini and Sai is Devaki, the biological mother, it's not Yashoda Devaki analogy but it's Rohini Devaki analogy, where at the end it's the Devaki, who is considered as Balram's real mother.....

So so glad you raised this point. I was indeed reading about this story today. Also, making reference to mythological gods is very common in television but atleast a right example would have been better

Originally posted by: Shree15

Just bcoz there is so much refrence to this mythology, something I want to point out.....

I rem after Vinu's birth, the narrative gave the same analogy and Sai said that even Lord Krishna has two mothers, same way Vinu will have two mothers also, the one who birthed him which was Pakhi and the one who would raise him which was Sai, so as per pre leap narrative Pakhi was Devaki, the birth giver and Sai was Yashoda, the raiser, now they suddenly changed the narrative and Pakhi is Yashoda and Sai is Devaki, but the thing this Yashoda Devaki analogy doesn't feet Vinu at all, coz his story isn't similar to Krishna and makers themselves are confused whether Pakhi is Yashoda or Devaki in Vinu's life........

So what they are missing is, Vinu's story isn't comparable to Lord Krishna but it's actually comparable to Lord Balram, the elder brother of Lord Krishna, I don't know if y'll know this mythology story about his birth or not, but Balram was Devaki and Vasudev's son who was birthed and raised by Rohini, Balram was actually considered a mythological Surrogate child, he was Seventh child of Devaki and Vasudev and when Kansa was in his killing spree of Devaki's children, to protect the seventh child, Lord Vishnu took out the Embryo of Devaki Vasudev's seventh child and put it in the womb of Rohini and then Rohini gave birth to Devaki and Vasudev's seventh child who is called Lord Balram, also he was raised by Rohini in Gokul and then he went away with Lord Krishna to save their parents and then got united with them......

Vinu's story is similar to Lord Balram where the one who birthed and raised him wasn't his real mother........

Here what I want to tell is Surrogacy concept was in our mythology too, Lord Balram was birthed and raised by Rohini but his mother was always Devaki coz he was Devaki's ansh, Rohini is always considered as Balram's Surrogate and foster mother and Devaki his real mother, if our ancient mythologies are so clear that who is real mother then why the makers can't be clear is beyond me and if they want to use mythological references then use the correct one, Vinu's story is not similar to Krishna but Balram......

Ps: Also no way I'm comparing Pakhi with any sacred religious characters just giving an example coz the show provided it as part of the episode discussion, but I've seen many ppl have misconception that just bcoz Sai only gave Ansh and its Pakhi who gave Vinu birth and raised him hence Sai has no right on Vinu, should go through the story of Lord Balram where his real mother is always considered as Devaki by the virtue of being his biological mother even though she didn't give him birth or raised him, so if our ancient mythologies are so clear regarding the concept of Surrogacy then why can't we and makers........🤷🏻‍♀️

And both Balram and Krishna went back to their mother DEVAKI when the heard of her plight. They stood by her once they knew the truth about her sufferings.

Krishna Balram had great admiration and gratitude to the mothers who raised them but for them devki was always their mother. Krishna is known as devakinandan.

Whether we compare to Krishna, Balram or even Ganesha all three always stood for their BIOLOGICAL MOTHER ie- Devaki and Parvati. So vinu should stand by his biological mother SAI. Vishay sampla

Originally posted by: Shree15

Yes exactly this whole Yashoda analogy is actually very wrong, even though we took out the illegal aspect and all, still Pakhi is not Yashoda in Vinu's life but Rohini and Sai is Devaki, the biological mother, it's not Yashoda Devaki analogy but it's Rohini Devaki analogy, where at the end it's the Devaki, who is considered as Balram's real mother.....

Exactly. the boys had gratitude for the surrogate, foster, adoptive mother whatever we call them but Devaki was always the mother and the boys left everything to go and save their mother

Originally posted by: Shree15

Just bcoz there is so much refrence to this mythology, something I want to point out.....

I rem after Vinu's birth, the narrative gave the same analogy and Sai said that even Lord Krishna has two mothers, same way Vinu will have two mothers also, the one who birthed him which was Pakhi and the one who would raise him which was Sai, so as per pre leap narrative Pakhi was Devaki, the birth giver and Sai was Yashoda, the raiser, now they suddenly changed the narrative and Pakhi is Yashoda and Sai is Devaki, but the thing this Yashoda Devaki analogy doesn't feet Vinu at all, coz his story isn't similar to Krishna and makers themselves are confused whether Pakhi is Yashoda or Devaki in Vinu's life........

So what they are missing is, Vinu's story isn't comparable to Lord Krishna but it's actually comparable to Lord Balram, the elder brother of Lord Krishna, I don't know if y'll know this mythology story about his birth or not, but Balram was Devaki and Vasudev's son who was birthed and raised by Rohini, Balram was actually considered a mythological Surrogate child, he was Seventh child of Devaki and Vasudev and when Kansa was in his killing spree of Devaki's children, to protect the seventh child, Lord Vishnu took out the Embryo of Devaki Vasudev's seventh child and put it in the womb of Rohini and then Rohini gave birth to Devaki and Vasudev's seventh child who is called Lord Balram, also he was raised by Rohini in Gokul and then he went away with Lord Krishna to save their parents and then got united with them......

Vinu's story is similar to Lord Balram where the one who birthed and raised him wasn't his real mother........

Here what I want to tell is Surrogacy concept was in our mythology too, Lord Balram was birthed and raised by Rohini but his mother was always Devaki coz he was Devaki's ansh, Rohini is always considered as Balram's Surrogate and foster mother and Devaki his real mother, if our ancient mythologies are so clear that who is real mother then why the makers can't be clear is beyond me and if they want to use mythological references then use the correct one, Vinu's story is not similar to Krishna but Balram......

Ps: Also no way I'm comparing Pakhi with any sacred religious characters just giving an example coz the show provided it as part of the episode discussion, but I've seen many ppl have misconception that just bcoz Sai only gave Ansh and its Pakhi who gave Vinu birth and raised him hence Sai has no right on Vinu, should go through the story of Lord Balram where his real mother is always considered as Devaki by the virtue of being his biological mother even though she didn't give him birth or raised him, so if our ancient mythologies are so clear regarding the concept of Surrogacy then why can't we and makers........🤷🏻‍♀️

Very well said. I don't know from where did the writers decided to ghusao Yashoda-Krishna story all of a sudden. Neither is Pakhi Yashoda nor Vinu Krishna. In fact I hate it when human beings are being compared to Gods and Goddesses in itv shows.

You gave the best example of Lord Balram. Yes he was Vasudev and Devaki's son who was birthed and raised by Rohini but he was always called Devaki's son. Vinu would have been Krishna if he was birthed by Sai. Here Pakhi should be compared to Rohini not Yashoda. I would have understood if some other character would have called her Yashoda but she declaring herself that was preposterous. Yashoda let Krishna leave her and never wanted him back. She did a huge sacrifice by letting Krishna leave Vrindavan so that he can fulfill his goals whereas Pakhi can't even allow Sai to be called choti mumma. Yashoda is worshipped more for her sacrifices and not just for raising Krishna.

I really hope the effect of this track falls on trps.

Originally posted by: Life_Is_Dutiful

Very well said. I don't know from where did the writers decided to ghusao Yashoda-Krishna story all of a sudden. Neither is Pakhi Yashoda nor Vinu Krishna. In fact I hate it when human beings are being compared to Gods and Goddesses in itv shows.

You gave the best example of Lord Balram. Yes he was Vasudev and Devaki's son who was birthed and raised by Rohini but he was always called Devaki's son. Vinu would have been Krishna if he was birthed by Sai. Here Pakhi should be compared to Rohini not Yashoda. I would have understood if some other character would have called her Yashoda but she declaring herself that was preposterous. Yashoda let Krishna leave her and never wanted him back. She did a huge sacrifice by letting Krishna leave Vrindavan so that he can fulfill his goals whereas Pakhi can't even allow Sai to be called choti mumma. Yashoda is worshipped more for her sacrifices and not just for raising Krishna.

I really hope the effect of this track falls on trps.

makers can say new story but sorry we can not forget the 600 episodes of crimes p has done especially surrogacy as it was wrong morally ethically legally emotionally physically in all ways it was WRONG. As women and many here who are mothers including Trp aunties no one can forgive a mother being deprived of her child just cause she didn’t give birth to him for a vile woman who stole her embryo and tried to kill her only to gain the husband 🤢

Originally posted by: Svt611

Exactly. the boys had gratitude for the surrogate, foster, adoptive mother whatever we call them but Devaki was always the mother and the boys left everything to go and save their mother

Yes behen ppl have misconception, they give justifications like Sai is just Ansh dene vali, neither she gave birth nor raised him, hence she has no right, then please you'll go through the mythology, it's always the Ansh dene vali who is consider supreme, yes Pakhi is Vinu's Surrogate and foster mother but Sai is "the Real mother", baat khatam.....

And you know what I really don't wanted to comment on this whole Yashoda thing but they are stretching it like no end, fgs Pakhi isn't Yashoda and even though she is then Sai is Devaki, remember you makers🥲

I read Rohini was Vasudev s another wife.

Whatever the mother s Devaki and here Sai only.

Originally posted by: Shree15

Just bcoz there is so much refrence to this mythology, something I want to point out.....

I rem after Vinu's birth, the narrative gave the same analogy and Sai said that even Lord Krishna has two mothers, same way Vinu will have two mothers also, the one who birthed him which was Pakhi and the one who would raise him which was Sai, so as per pre leap narrative Pakhi was Devaki, the birth giver and Sai was Yashoda, the raiser, now they suddenly changed the narrative and Pakhi is Yashoda and Sai is Devaki, but the thing this Yashoda Devaki analogy doesn't feet Vinu at all, coz his story isn't similar to Krishna and makers themselves are confused whether Pakhi is Yashoda or Devaki in Vinu's life........

So what they are missing is, Vinu's story isn't comparable to Lord Krishna but it's actually comparable to Lord Balram, the elder brother of Lord Krishna, I don't know if y'll know this mythology story about his birth or not, but Balram was Devaki and Vasudev's son who was birthed and raised by Rohini, Balram was actually considered a mythological Surrogate child, he was Seventh child of Devaki and Vasudev and when Kansa was in his killing spree of Devaki's children, to protect the seventh child, Lord Vishnu took out the Embryo of Devaki Vasudev's seventh child and put it in the womb of Rohini and then Rohini gave birth to Devaki and Vasudev's seventh child who is called Lord Balram, also he was raised by Rohini in Gokul and then he went away with Lord Krishna to save their parents and then got united with them......

Vinu's story is similar to Lord Balram where the one who birthed and raised him wasn't his real mother........

Here what I want to tell is Surrogacy concept was in our mythology too, Lord Balram was birthed and raised by Rohini but his mother was always Devaki coz he was Devaki's ansh, Rohini is always considered as Balram's Surrogate and foster mother and Devaki his real mother, if our ancient mythologies are so clear that who is real mother then why the makers can't be clear is beyond me and if they want to use mythological references then use the correct one, Vinu's story is not similar to Krishna but Balram......

Ps: Also no way I'm comparing Pakhi with any sacred religious characters just giving an example coz the show provided it as part of the episode discussion, but I've seen many ppl have misconception that just bcoz Sai only gave Ansh and its Pakhi who gave Vinu birth and raised him hence Sai has no right on Vinu, should go through the story of Lord Balram where his real mother is always considered as Devaki by the virtue of being his biological mother even though she didn't give him birth or raised him, so if our ancient mythologies are so clear regarding the concept of Surrogacy then why can't we and makers........🤷🏻‍♀️

Lovely take. Very well said !! But but but you can never take the putana out of her.

Acc to wiki, Putana disguises as a young, beautiful woman and tries to kill the god by breast-feeding poisoned milk; however Krishna sucks her milk as well as her life via her breasts. Putana is also considered as a foster-mother of Krishna as she breast-fed him.

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

So so glad you raised this point. I was indeed reading about this story today. Also, making reference to mythological gods is very common in television but atleast a right example would have been better

Yes this whole Yashoda thing doesn't fit, firstly they are not Yashoda and Krishna but even if you want to give refrence then use the correct refrence, Yashoda didn't give birth to Krishna🥲