Does cinema promote hate against educated women? - Page 3

Originally posted by: atominis

I agree but films do give wrong message to impressionable kids who see these films and have no prejudice or pre conceived motions or idea of world otherwise.

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After watching Judaai as a kid, my wife tried to sell me to another woman for 200 crores. Fortunately (or not) the deal did not go through

Originally posted by: CrimeMasterToto

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After watching Judaai as a kid, my wife tried to sell me to another woman for 200 crores. Fortunately (or not) the deal did not go through

Why? She tried to haggle it down to 100 cr and Mrs Crime said a firm NO?

Originally posted by: atominis

I agree but films do give wrong message to impressionable kids who see these films and have no prejudice or pre conceived motions or idea of world otherwise.

Their parents should monitor them lmao

There are innumerable movies about taming the shrew. Laadla is just one of them. Ironically Anil's ex Raveena is shown managing the factory at the end while Sri is shown packing lunch for her patidev. Way to put her in her place. However there are a few movies like the original Aashiqui where Rahul Roy's mother Reema chides him for his inferiority complex because his prospective bride Anu is more famous than him. She tells him firmly to put aside his ego and get back together with her.

P.S My own mother threatened to marry me off to the first beggar who rings the bell when she felt I was being choosy about my prospective grooms. She loved her Shakespeare -particularly Taming of the Shrew.

Depends on the movie. Yes, plenty of movies show educated women or westernized women in a negative light. It follows a problematic social perception that a westernized or educated woman loses light of her culture and makes a bad wife or daughter. Only by being traditional and pati vrata can a woman find her true purpose. Of course, not everyone in desi society believes that.

Many movies show educated and western women in a positive light. Simran, an educated and foreign-raised woman who rejected her father's chosen groom is a beloved character. But you don't have to wait till the 90s. - a lot of Basu Chatterjee's female protagonists were educated and independent women. Hrishikesh Mukherjee too had some good female protagonists with Khoobsurat emphasizing the fact that an educated, rebellious, non-confirming woman can still be a wonderful human being and a desirable daughter-in-law.

Originally posted by: CrimeMasterToto

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After watching Judaai as a kid, my wife tried to sell me to another woman for 200 crores. Fortunately (or not) the deal did not go through

Imagine holding a value of 200 crores. IPL mein bhi itna bhaav kisi ka nahi hein rey baba

Once upon a time, yes

But now is not that scene anymore, times are changing

Originally posted by: ohophelia

Imagine holding a value of 200 crores. IPL mein bhi itna bhaav kisi ka nahi hein rey baba

I was clearly over valued since the proposal fell through

Felt like Jayadev Unadkat in 2022 auction

Sorry. Rekha in Khubsoorat is not some career oriented woman. She is outspoken but no one knows what her education or degree or what she wants to do with her own life.

Hrishikesh Mukherjee almost always showed women as someone pining for marriage or attention from a man and his family. Or only doing MA in some Indian language and not even professional degrees like medicine or law. Nor in search of jobs. One does not know why Sharmila and Jaya studied Botany in Chupke Chupke when all they wanted was get married and be housewife. And Jaya does not even complete degree before marrying Amitabh who is already a professor.

Simran in DDLJ is a gharelu woman and we are hardly told what her degree is. Her only dream is to get married to a guy she loves or some lover boy. She has no ambitions for a career or to make her own name and identity.

For that matter even Kangana in Queen has no dream except to get married and have sex on honeymoon. She becomes a chef or travels abroad by chance after being dumped by her fiance.

Cinema has specifically shown career oriented or working or office bound women or women in leadership positions as bitches or frustrated or working out of helplessness or bitterness. Rekha becomes an IPS officer in Phool Aur Kaante to avenge her rape and murder of her husband and get those criminals jailed. Not because she herself wanted to be IPS.

I think Tejaswini starring Vijayshanti, Hema in Andha kanoon, Gunjan Saxena, or recent biopics like Shabaash Mithu or ones on Saina Nehwal and Jhulan Goswami are exceptions.

There were some films in 80s where women lawyers were shown fighting for justice or with women judges. But they too often showed that woman as traumatised or struggling to balance work and home, at times.

Very few Indian films and serials show happily career oriented and ambitious women who are unapologetic about what they did.

Oh yeah tame the woman and teach her a lesson. So many remakes of one shitty film seem to be fulfilling male wet dream of slapping own female boss or a rich female businesswoman and teaching her to be good housewife and use violence and rape attempt to make her realise her place is below and inferior to man.

Every dialogue of Laadla is SHIT. Aurat kya hai tumhe pata nahi, shaadi ke baad tu number 2 ho jayegi aur pati number one, mard mard hota hai aur aurat aurat, aurat zaat ke liye itna ghamand acha nahi, mere laad pyar ne isey bigaad diya hai, mujhe laga tha koi mard isko seedha karega.

Anupam Kher wanting a mechanic to tame his daughter or calling her spoiled simply because she is driven and outspoken is peak misogyny.

Sridevi is nice at heart and treats maid like mom in the film. Still she is called a bitch because she is particular about discipline, timings, is competitive and a sharp businesswoman.