🏏ICC Men's T20IWC 2022 - Ind vs Ban, M-35th, Super 12 Group 2🏏 - Page 64

Read this for now :)

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/new-icc-finance-model-breaks-up-big-three-1094846

And this happened in 2017 itself. 🤣More than 5 years ago. But some people are still struck in BIG3 era. 🤪

And will also explain the Hardwork and other stuff later on. :)

I wish this discussion started in the vacation. Mera post count increase ho jaata by atleast 100.😆 Love debunking these BS myths.

Originally posted by: basherz

minor correction, Aus progressed to the finals not due to the Super Six tables but it was because Aus won the previous encounter against them in the WC & a better net run-rate. Commentators clearly stated, if Aus drew - they go through.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

"Hardwork" a is stretch when they get most money out of broadcasting deals given they have a 1.4 billion captive market. Surely, BCCI cannot be credited for India's population and rise of cricket popularity after the '83 WC in a globalised world of middle class aspiration and spread of televised sport in the late 80s and 90s.

And for India to have broadcasting profits, they need to play with at least one other team. They cannot play alone na. Big 3 because Australia and England are the only other two teams who have considerable money and cricket culture to provide audiences of their own alongside India matches for broadcasting deals. Also, Big 3 is a term senior sports journalists and scholars themselves use.

Here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/sports/cricket/big-three-cricket-nations-look-to-consolidate-their-influence.html

Basically, if broadcasters earn most money from India matches, the incentive is to make India play as many matches as possible, that too with equally popular and strong teams. So, the incentive to push money in smaller teams that might not generate as much viewership as India/Aus/Eng becomes zero to none. See how many matches India plays in a,year to how many international matches especially tests WI plays.

This is not a new thing, this process was started during Dalmia's presidency and was only augamented by the IPL.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/cricket-s-big-three-could-be-only-three-fears-smith-20210215-p572hp.html

Heck, the Big 3 even control the ICC anti-corruption unit so smaller boards realistically do not stand a chance to appeal to a neutral body which ICC should be.

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/big-3-to-control-anti-corruption-unit-as-icc-confirms-review/

Patriot Act did a very in depth analysis of the Big 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5DWJv1hiwM

Harsha talks about cricket economy here :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY53YU-Uq8I

You can see how broadcasters have massively influenced and bulldozed ICC even before IPL became big :

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sidharth-monga-were-south-africa-really-unlucky-in-the-1992-world-cup-1219634

Hope this helps!

Your basic point that ICC gives to only BIG3 has been gone since 2017. You are wrong there. BCCI was left fuming because they contribute the most to ICC. Cricket without BCCI is dead. But they had to settle for other model unwillingly. But they did. Since Big 3 model is gone long time ago, the hassan minhaz thing is also irrelevant since it was during that time.

I am not talking about broadcasting stuff. Its business. Broadcasters will want thier product to sell. No one is here for charity. You can't expect bcci or broadcasters to do charity to other teams. You know why NZ/WI don't play tests much? Because every test they organize they lose money. Crowds are not responsive and being in odd time zone to India also cuts out the biggest viewer base.

It's not India's fault that others don't care about a long ass 5 day sport.

Everything else is just communist/socialist BS. Undeserving people getting similar share as the one who works the most.

P.S. Take this BS to a rookie who has no idea of how cricket work :)

AND I HAVEN'T EVEN EXPLAINED ABOUT THE HARDWORK THAT ONLY INDIA DOES. 🤣

A research work for anyone who wants to do. 😆

Find out the no of series tours India did to weaker countries compared to the Other two.

Also the no of series that India hosted compared to the other 2.

And this is excluding the ICC CWC Super league where they were forced to play the weaker teams to qualify for the world cup. 😆

I honestly can't believe that someone would put a source of almost a 9 years old thing to justify an ill-informed point. 🤪

Surely this is not a mistake and its intentionally done.

And just to show that it's not biased towards BCCI, include the 92 wc as example.

This is the exact reason why I enjoy when BCCI bullies the bullies themselves. The bullies have gotten away with so much of stuff that I enjoy whatever happened in yesterday's game.

You have the power then wield it. That's how the First 3 edition of WC was kept in England and India had to win it to change the landscape of cricket. The bullies are still at it as is seen in case of Deepti Sharma and Ashwin and the non striker runout. Players are being made to feel like guilty and criminal for following the rule book. And they are being guilt tripped to give advantage to cheaters.

Then with the IPL, BCCI Hijacked the T20 cricket started by the Poms to get more revenue. This is not my words but said by Bhogle. 😆

Whenever there is this argument of bcci doing something wrong and unfair reminds me of the scene in munna bhai mbbs. 🤣

Actually for once Ask the actual cricket players how does it feel to play against India and get selected for IPL.

Everybody knows what a good performance vs India does. Litton and Taskin are great examples of it.

They specifically raise their game vs India. Because that would get them more eyeballs and maybe an IPL auction bid. And btw, England and Australia started his t20 thing in 03/04. Not India's fault that they used the other sports model to generate a lucrative product :)

I wish I could write more but break over. Really wish I had more time. 😆

Originally posted by: BeingBlunt

This definitely doesn't help because it's all a load of Outdated BS and ignorant posting. 🤪

Your basic point that ICC gives to only BIG3 has been gone since 2017. You are wrong there. BCCI was left fuming because they contribute the most to ICC. Cricket without BCCI is dead. But they had to settle for other model unwillingly. But they did. Since Big 3 model is gone long time ago, the hassan minhaz thing is also irrelevant since it was during that time.

I am not talking about broadcasting stuff. Its business. Broadcasters will want thier product to sell. No one is here for charity. You can't expect bcci or broadcasters to do charity to other teams. You know why NZ/WI don't play tests much? Because every test they organize they lose money. Crowds are not responsive and being in odd time zone to India also cuts out the biggest viewer base.

It's not India's fault that others don't care about a long ass 5 day sport.

Everything else is just communist/socialist BS. Undeserving people getting similar share as the one who works the most.

P.S. Take this BS to a rookie who has no idea of how cricket work :)

AND I HAVEN'T EVEN EXPLAINED ABOUT THE HARDWORK THAT ONLY INDIA DOES. 🤣

Bruh, whaaaaat?

Cricket shouldn't be encouraged in other countries because they do not have India's population and this is not "charity"? ICC— Intermational Cricket Council— shouldn't be a neutral body encouraging cricket internationally because BCCI pays most money?

How does even Socialism and Communism come into play?

Literally every other board fumes at the Big3 especially BCCI. BTW, I didn't know that any communist country plays cricket in the world. HK has a team but it's decidedly anti-communist lol. (ICC could encourage cricket in associate nations if it had any spine of its own but nah we will make Indian cricketers play an inhumane number of days in a year because this is not a "charity.") May be I am ignorant about what communism is, please educate me. 🤣

Originally posted by: BeingBlunt

Read this for now :)

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/new-icc-finance-model-breaks-up-big-three-1094846

And this happened in 2017 itself. 🤣More than 5 years ago. But some people are still struck in BIG3 era. 🤪

And will also explain the Hardwork and other stuff later on. :)

I wish this discussion started in the vacation. Mera post count increase ho jaata by atleast 100.😆 Love debunking these BS myths.

Bruh, also, you know, basic maths will tell you that the Big3 still have the dominating share in ICC even after this redistribution. BCCI doesn't really come across as the damsel in distress in this article and ICC still doesn't push money in associate teams i.e. "very-decidely-not-poms" teams.

Also, the fact that BCCI gets an inordinately big share even in this unfair redistribution when it wanted 570 million USD while other teams get 130+ each doesn't make it come across as the Disney harworking fair-shot free market billionaire that you think it is. Monopolies are decidedly anticapitalist.

BCCI earning profits is not a problem, it buldozing International Cricket Council alongside ECB and CA is the problem that it does to this very day

Editing to add, because I am rookie and forgot about this : But the Big 3 opposed the ICC bidding process to scout smaller boards in 2021, y'know, because free market and all.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/bcci-opposed-to-icc-s-new-bidding-policy-for-world-events-1253251

Editing further to add because again I don't understand things and forgot that BCCI is a non-profit and just am bashing bcci : Cricket is not a charitable business but BCCI is a "charitable body" exempt from Income Taxes. Even IPL's surplus, it argued, wasn't taxable because it spends whole of its revenue in promotion of cricket in the country. You know, "charity" because legally that's what it is supposed to do. It does broadcasting bids for "charity", it does sponsership bids for "charity", it resistricts Indian players from playing in overseas leagues for "charity" because by doing "charity", it gets to not pay taxes to the Indian Government. Humare Desh ki Sarkar.

https://www.deccanherald.com/opinion/second-edit/bcci-must-pay-tax-1062630.html

Also, why did BCCI not want cricket in Olympics? Just curious, you clearly know way more than me:

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Today's important encounter ---

Pakistan vs South Africa, 36th Match, Super 12 Group 2 -- 1.30 pm [IST]

Venue: Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney

Ghar hi ana hai ab🤣

Originally posted by: Havaana

ab hum jeet bhi jaye toh kia Khushi or har jaye toh kia ghum

Ghar hi ana hai ab🤣

And, there is a fair chance that if today , they win, they will have a fair chance to enter into semis. 🤗