Ek vinu ko Kho chuka Hu ab dusre ko nahi khone chahta hu - Page 33

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Yeah Virat is the one who suffered. Then Sai also. See in marriage, both suffer for the deeds of one person.

Virat had done terrible mistakes from surrogacy to separation. His intentions for Sai were always clean like you said but he did turn selfish in surrogacy kaand. Sai also could have given him BoD during separation. Trusted him a little more that he will handle Pakhi better. So both suffered for their mistakes because they are tied by love for each other and through marriage. It is very painful. Thats why I say this separation has to teach them for life, how to work as. a team. independent of Pakhi. Thats what Aaba said. This separation has to rectify the core mistakes they did in their marriage.

they remained loyal through out separation. Virat will still have to prove the marraige and willingness to stay loyal forever. This is requried because Pakhi is not any other woman for Sai to easily trust him. Sai stayed loyal to him, proved her love so he should learn to value her more than his family.

Pakhi again had nothing to lose. virat or vinu was never hers to lose. she has only her life and mental peace to lose. If she needs to learn anything then it is her own self worth.

I humbly disagree with bold part.

Since her miscarriage Sai showed nothing but trust in Virat.
First he failed her n let PL be surrogate, then she came to terms w that he asked her to stay away from infant, she agreed n trusted that will end n he took baby away from her. He had no plan of giving him back. He literally did nothing but watched Sai cry at night n was playing baba aai with PL. and wirst is when she exposed PL’s truth he still stood by her in name of family!

Its high time Virat start trusting Sai, trust her judgements, and more importantly be an emotional support to her. He is just expecting n expecting n expecting in name of trust. Unfair.
High time they show Virat invest in his relationship with Sai.

If we take out getting sexual aspect- Virat is way better partner to PL than Sai. He doesnt even respect Sai as a person ir an individual (he would not have left her alone to suffer miscarriage)

Very well answered. Thankyou. ❤️

Agree that Sai should go to treat Vinu. At this point, she has lagav towards Vinu, but doesn't know he is her son. So would like to see her continue her search for him. Also she risked her daughter's life with GR for the hospital, so abandoning it seems like, she simply did not want to loose to GR.

Vinu wants to be close to Sai and Savi, (he said they are his family too). Sai's motherly instincts and compassion will motivate her to go to Nagpur and she should.

My pov, it would be a nice if they continue or give closure to tracks that were started, otherwise it will ruin Sai's core characteristics.

For all that you said, Virat suffered. There should be some learning out of the suffering. He got Sai back to him, when he thought he would only meet her in another world. I am sure he will not lose her again for the same mistakes. But his anger now is valid. Sai hid herself from him. tomorrow Savi's truth will make him more angry. That doesnt mean he is not valuing Sai. If we dont understand his pain, it can be considered as not understanding the plot itself. Once the anger dies, he will see things clearly. Just like Sai will see the reality when she is back at CN.

Sai trusting him litttle more, will be considered by Sai herself tomorrow. If she knows what Virat went through after her departure, she would regret not trusting him little more.

It is not about who is right or wrong. But which action could have stalled the mess they are in. Virat should have avoided surrogacy. that is the root cause. Sai should have stayed and given time. Virat should have stopped her little harder!. But thats what life is, things go out of control. 😒

The problem is that we sympathize with Sai more (which is correct) and undermine Virat's sufferings. That will make us crippled in understanding the plot. Sympathizing with VIrat's pain NOW doesnt mean we are supporting his decisions before. For example: If you dont understand his anger now, how can we ever understand his suffering of losing Sai. The current intensity of his anger now is the direct indication of his suffering. In my opinion.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

For all that you said, Virat suffered. There should be some learning out of the suffering. He got Sai back to him, when he thought he would only meet her in another world. I am sure he will not lose her again for the same mistakes. But his anger now is valid. Sai hid herself from him. tomorrow Savi's truth will make him more angry. That doesnt mean he is not valuing Sai. If we dont understand his pain, it can be considered as not understanding the plot itself. Once the anger dies, he will see things clearly. Just like Sai will see the reality when she is back at CN.

Sai trusting him litttle more, will be considered by Sai herself tomorrow. If she knows what Virat went through after her departure, she would regret not trusting him little more.

It is not about who is right or wrong. But which action could have stalled the mess they are in. Virat should have avoided surrogacy. that is the root cause. Sai should have stayed and given time. Virat should have stopped her little harder!. But thats what life is, things go out of control. 😒

The problem is that we sympathize with Sai more (which is correct) and undermine Virat's sufferings. That will make us crippled in understanding the plot. Sympathizing with VIrat's pain NOW doesnt mean we are supporting his decisions before. For example: If you dont understand his anger now, how can we ever understand his suffering of losing Sai. The current intensity of his anger now is the direct indication of his suffering. In my opinion.

May be what you are saying is right, but the mother in me refuse to see pain of man who wronged his wife so much.

Even now, seeing love of your life alive your reaction is to not listen to them fight! Not for one minute he is shown happy for the fact that Sai is alive. Instead in few hours he was sort of implying why u are here when my son is not.

Plus Sai didnt know she was assumed dead, its established that she was waiting for Virat to come look for her.

You are getting the gist of plot but their execution is completely opposite. Ideally execution should be as such that Misunderstanding is between Virat n Sai but audience should be clear that they love eo. However here they are convincing audiences track after track that Virat doesnt care about Sai as person and its coming out as he wants to posses Sai n not see her as equal.

No matter how hard I try- seeing whats shown on screen I fail to feel anything for Virat.

Sadhika,

I understand what you're trying to say. Also, understand that SOMETIMES, it's the mistakes of both the partners which creates a mess. Which causes separation.

But, sometimes the mistakes can be one sided too.

Sai learnt her lesson from shruti track. She was scared of not trusting virat and letting go, too easily without trying. So, she kept TRUSTING virat and didn't give up on him, until he literally crossed all the limits.

In virat's language - A rubber band can be streched to a limit. If you strech it too much, then it'll tear.

SAME THING HAPPENED WITH SAI.

TRUSTING SOMEONE DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU WILL LET THEM KEEP CROSSING THE BOUNDARIES AGAIN AND AGAIN.

SAI FORGIVING VIRAT WAY TOO EASILY, GAVE HIM THE GUTS TO KEEP REPEATING HIS MISTAKES.

She kept giving him chances since samrat's death. He kept failing her, but she kept showing her trust in him. She did, even after he snatched vinayak and gave it to pakhi.

She should've GIVEN UP the moment, virat allowed that surrogacy but, she continued to show her faith in virat. And, kept sacrificing her self respect and choices for him

That was her lesson from shruti track. She didn't want the history to repeat itself.

Injustice happened to sai, when she didn't revolt strongly to the illegal surrogacy by taking proper actions. But, it's okay. Can say that she did for virat and her child.

BUT,

If sai hadn't walked that day, then that would've an injustice to her self respect and the MOTHER INSIDE HER.

A mother whose child was wronged and a wife who kept sacrificing her happiness for her husband but the husband could never PROVE HIS LOVE, THROUGH HIS ACTIONS.

Virat snatched vinayak. Sai's son. But, she still understood virat and forgave him easily after pakhi's expose.

ALSO, VIRAT TOOK VINU'S KASAM AND SAID THAT HE WILL TRUST SAI'S DECISIONS.

But, he didn't.

He broke his promises, again and again. Sai had suffered enough. I don't think, that she should've anymore.

IT'S SAI, WHOSE TRUST GOT BROKEN AGAIN AND AGAIN. SO MUCH, THAT SHE COULDN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE.

SHE DID SAY EVEN BEFORE SEPERATION, WHEN VIRAT SAID THAT HE'LL BAIL PAKHI OUT.

SHE SAID, THAT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE VINAYAK AND GO AWAY. PLEASE DON'T BRING PAKHI.

But, no one listened. She gave him a chance till the day of seperation. But, virat failed.

So, this track is for virat to learn his lessons.

As for heartbreak,

SOME HEARTBREAKS ARE BLESSINGS💞

May be you are right.

I see like this. The love for Sai has to be understood in his suffering and his anger. The soul Virat is the one what Virat felt after seeing Sai. But the reality in which they are made them feel otherwise. Wont you be angry if your loved one not call you after suriving an accident? What. will it tell you about their love for you. Virat's question on why she didnt call him after surving is heartbreaking.

I know for that he needs to understand what Sai has suffered before the fight. But that is not the immediate reaction right. The instant reaction is that she didnt call the person who she claimed to love more than anyone. For Virat, losing child also should not stop her from calling him. Their love is independent of other situations. This will be his instant concern. Once things settle down, he will ponder on why she might not have come back. Also, he already blames himself for the accident. Post leap, is the Virat who is angry with Sai not informing him and jealous about her moving on. These things are the roadblocks for him now.

Even for Sai, his heartbreak is not visible. He told her that he was like a living dead body after she left. But the fact that she sees him as a father to another child and married to Pakhi is not letting her see the pain he endured.

Soul Virat on the day of their meeting are his real emotions for her. Once the MUs are cleared, thats what is expected of him.

The biggest problem for me, even from plot PoV is Virat marrying Pakhi. There should be some solid reason other than adoption. Nothing else will prove his loyalty to Sai unless there is some DUTY behind this marriage and ofcourse there is no emotional involvment from his side. That is more bothersome to me. Him being less angry and feeling happy on seeing Sai and professing his love 1000 times is useless if he is involved in the marriage with Pakhi. The dent is there not in his anger is my opinion.

I totally understand virat's anger right now. If we don't, then the plot becomes one sided. His anger right now that sai hid herself is understandable. He needs to and will realise 'Why sai did this?' in the future.

Then, he will be guilty and redemption will be there.

The realisation is yet to happen. And, that realisation will open a lot of doors.

Also, his anger of sai hiding about savi is valid. As a father, he has all the rights to know.

Sai does blame herself for Vinu's 'death' and she'll be guilty after she finds out what virat has been through.

Knowing sai's nature, it's natural for her. Though she didn't cause it, but feeling guilty is a natural thing and it's okay💞

Originally posted by: Swaydheenta

HAUSLA!

Something that sai gave to vinu. Not just to vinu but to virat also.

We know how virat was, before he met sai. He couldn't take a stand for Ashwini and there were many times, when he couldn't take a stand.

But, sai gave him the 'COURAGE' to stand up for right and to take a stand for himself. To take a stand for his mother.

She provided him that ability. Gave him hopes, filled his life with colors with her optimism.

She taught him how to actually live. Especially, when he was going through a heart break.

But, when sai left, virat gave up. Lost that COURAGE. Sai used to find good things and optimism, even in the worst situations.

SIMILARLY WITH VINU,

Sai didn't just provide him care, but she provided him the ability to 'STAND UP'.

Her presence filled his life with the colors of hope.

She gave him a hope to live.

She provided him the COURAGE, to live and stand up.

She also told him to be strong enough to take a stand for himself and his family.

The courage.

Something which is lacking in Sai's absence. That's why, vinu is on the verge of giving up.

Something that happened to virat.

Sai provided courage and ability to both virat and vinu. To both her husband and her son.

Both are fond of her for same reasons.

I agree with you that Sai gave his the courage. He was always in awe of her, how she would see positivity in everything, However, I disagree partially that he lost the courage. He drew his courage from her, but he failed to get courage "FOR" her. When they separated, she stood alone fighting everyone, and he failed her. He chose the easy side. V could not gather the courage to stand up against his own family for Sai. He failed Sai as his family.

This has been his pattern throughout. But now he has been able to stand up for Vinu. Against the same BK who could manipulate him.

So the courage is there, but he fails to use it where it is needed. He has always been non-confrontational especially when it came to supporting Sai.

For Vinu, the child has always lived in the shadows of being an "Orphan", the feeling of "indebtedness". Despite the love showered he has never been able to speak his heart. Similar to Sai's situation in CN, except, she never feared to raise her opinion. And that is what she has passed on to him now. Courage to dream..to hope.

In all this there is something that is still lingering as a reminder. When Sai left, she said that V could not stand up for his family. Then she hoped that Vinu gains the courage to stand up for his family. And V mentioning that he should stick by his family. Both V & Sai's ask from V is same. But the word "Family" is ambiguous here. For now, family means Chavans for him. With this statement constantly making a reference, I see him taking a stand for Sai when Sai and Savi become his family.

He should be the one to teach V where he failed and what it takes to stand by one's family in the true sense.

Yes I agree to every point. I was basing my arguments on Karma. karma is not in our control. Several factors effect it. For all that Sai has done till separation, She did trust him a lot and he misused. True. But one more chance to him would have avoided the accident. But thats life is what I meant to say

Like Aaba said, there is some bigger reason for everyone to behave like that on that day. The fight went out of control. Damage has been done. Based on their karma, as I explained, Virat is the one who suffered the most. Because he incurred a lot of bad karma.

Sai incurred a little less because she was doing right thing. In order for Virat to pay for his deeds, Sai gave up trusting him on that day. May if she had trusted him, then she would not have lost vinu and virat. But there would have been no learning and some thing else would have happened. We can only speculate.

Thats why I believe, this separation should bring some new learnings. Virat should hear her more, respect her more, not only love her. Sai should trust he loves her more than anyone. That Pakhi was never the issue.

In short, Karma doesnt take sides right. :) If something has happened, they will have consequences. Is what I meant.

Originally posted by: Sherry24

I agree with you that Sai gave his the courage. He was always in awe of her, how she would see positivity in everything, However, I disagree partially that he lost the courage. He drew his courage from her, but he failed to get courage "FOR" her. When they separated, she stood alone fighting everyone, and he failed her. He chose the easy side. V could not gather the courage to stand up against his own family for Sai. He failed Sai as his family.

This has been his pattern throughout. But now he has been able to stand up for Vinu. Against the same BK who could manipulate him.

So the courage is there, but he fails to use it where it is needed. He has always been non-confrontational especially when it came to supporting Sai.

For Vinu, the child has always lived in the shadows of being an "Orphan", the feeling of "indebtedness". Despite the love showered he has never been able to speak his heart. Similar to Sai's situation in CN, except, she never feared to raise her opinion. And that is what she has passed on to him now. Courage to dream..to hope.

In all this there is something that is still lingering as a reminder. When Sai left, she said that V could not stand up for his family. Then she hoped that Vinu gains the courage to stand up for his family. And V mentioning that he should stick by his family. Both V & Sai's ask from V is same. But the word "Family" is ambiguous here. For now, family means Chavans for him. With this statement constantly making a reference, I see him taking a stand for Sai when Sai and Savi become his family.

He should be the one to teach V where he failed and what it takes to stand by one's family in the true sense.

isn’t he currently doing the same, that little boys heart is actually reaching out to his real family, there is a reason for the connect. The father needs that vision to see things which only the son can show.

But is the father willing to see things over his anger, that’s his biggest issue - his anger